Posted on 01/18/2009 7:02:45 AM PST by Red in Blue PA
“One of the most popular legislative initiatives in recent years is the movement allowing qualified law-abiding citizens to carry concealed firearms,” says Snyder, Treasurer of the Second Amendment Foundation. “Studies by scholars such as John R. Lott, Jr., author of More Guns Less Crime, demonstrate that in jurisdictions where such a public policy is implemented, violent crime takes a nosedive. Forty states now have some kind of right to carry policy.
“What has been missing is federal right to carry concealed legislation so that persons permitted to carry in a state may carry in other states, in much the same way as people licensed to drive in a state may drive in other states. Into this breech comes the bipartisan introduction of H.R. 197, the proposed National Right to Carry Concealed Act of 2009, by Rep. Cliff Stearns of Florida, a Republican, and Rick Boucher of Virginia, a Democrat. The proposal would allow persons permitted to carry a concealed firearm in a state to carry in other states.”
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When the gun grabbing begins where will they go first?
DOA!
If you get caught wuth a firearm and you are not obeying the law, be prepared to meet the consequences of such an action. (I am not) and have a CCW).
http://ccwsaveslives.blogspot.com
The Messiah would certainly like this.
Sounds like a waiver of the 2nd amendment to me.
With that kind of attitude, it will be DOA. Did you happen to see that the bill has a dem co-sponsor?
I am not waiving anything and I agree that under the 2nd, you hould not need to apply for a CCW. But the fact remains, that now you do. I only play by the rules, unless the rules are so unfair to make like oenerous, such as turning in your bullets for bullet imprinting.
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If someone hands the police a FL,AZ or other State CCW it doesn't take long to find out if is vaild. Takes about 30 sec with a Driver lic. If the system is up and running properly. Would be the same for a CCW lic.
Mark
That is a fear of mine too, and if it came to that, I would hope any bill would fail. Right now in PA, I can walk almost anywhere with my CCW (bars included). If the scenario you laid out would come to fruition, the CCW laws would probably be as strict as possible preventing me from doing so.
Like I said. DOA! Pelosi & Hoyer owe the Brady bunch too much and will never let it see a vote on the floor regardless of how many Dems are co-sponsors. So, DOA!
Your first sentance is the point. Like when you waive your fifth amendment rights to get a driver license.
Putting any restrictions on a right is an onerous thing.
This is an individual state right to determine. Same as individual states issue driver licenses. Although the feds are attempting to take that away from the states with sanctions, withholding federal (OUR) highway money etc....
I say no. The risk of last minute amendments and fine, unconstitutional print is real and a threat...
Correct, it appears to be a good thing but is set up to be fraught with fraud. Millions of people will rush to it so that they are registered on the first to be confiscated list.
Buyer beware on this one. Dont you find it interesting that this pops up just as the Musklim is about to take office?
there are lots of very odd things popping up. Stuff that appears conservative friendly but when examined is very bad.
National Right-to-Carry Reciprocity Act of 2009 - Amends the federal criminal code to establish a national standard for the carrying of concealed firearms (other than a machinegun or destructive device) by non-residents. Authorizes a person who has a valid permit to carry a concealed firearm in one state and who is not prohibited from carrying a firearm under federal law to carry a concealed firearm in another state in accordance with the restrictions of that state or as specified under this Act.
http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/111_HR_197.html
Any Federal legislation will accompany recording of all CCW permit holders, next will come the requirements to keep the national CCW such as security requirements that can be inspected at will by the BATFE, severe FEDERAL penalties for abusing the permit, and on and on.....
No thanks.
And for those of you that think I am being TOO paranoid, think of any government program that didn't create a huge buerau to oversee it or has really been friendly to gunowners.
This is called the 2nd Amendment. Just because the protein cogs in the government machine don't recognize it doesn't mean that it does not exist.
This right, though unalienable, is violated on a regular basis by aforementioned cogs.
In effect a future CCW registry.
We don’t need no steenking federal law. The right of the people to keep and “BEAR” arms is pretty explicit.
Hi Red. I am a Pa resident as well. Where does the Ammo Accountability Act stand in Pa, do you know?
Agreed, and worth repeating:
Under the 2nd Amendment, you should not need to apply for a CCW.
There was a time when I was for this type of legislation, but after studying the various bills that have come out on this subject in recent years and knowing how politicians act, I am now completly against it.
As many have pointed out, the 2nd Amendment is our carry permit, giving the Feds a CCW data base would be prepping for a future anti-RKBA regulations and/or confiscation, the States is where this belongs and the citizens of the states are the ones that must push back against bans and other unconstitutional regulations.
Just look at the progress made over the years with reciprocity of CCW between the states, so keep the Feds out of it, push back hard in your state and fight for your rights.
Not yet, but give the Feds an opening and that will change very quickly!
Rather than a county or state database, there will be a federal database, which will facilitate massive, wide-spread confiscation.
No thanks
Honestly, I am not sure where that bill stands. Would be surprised to see it passed in PA, but this past year has been a year of surprises.
I can see ACORN between ballot box stuffed elections being sent around to gather up those nasty old guns so we can all be safe.
A Nation gone mad.
Why OTHER than a machine gun, or destructive device? Some 12 gauge shotguns are destructive devices nowadays, you know.
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