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Huge police presence at Saddleback Church today
Self | 1/18/2009 | Self

Posted on 01/18/2009 1:54:54 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie

I don't often post vanities but since this is an eyewitness account I thought I'd go ahead.

On my way to In-N-Out in Foothill Ranch a little while ago I noticed a HUGE police presence at Saddleback Church today. One or two squad cars at each entrance, more cars patrolling Portola Parkway and El Toro Road, a mobile command post, equestrian units, and a dozen or more motorcycle units. I'd say at least 20 to 30 police in all. Maybe more as I was not on the campus itself and there may have been others closer to the services.

There was a big protest along the Portola entrance, with plenty of signs and rainbow flags (Laguna Beach must be a ghost town today!). Protesters crossed the street to and from the Arco Station holding signs and flags. Not the first time I've seen all that but never so many cops before. I have to guess that with warren involved with the inauguration that either the whole thing is getting the Homeland Security treatment or the cops got a specific threat against Warren.


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1 posted on 01/18/2009 1:54:57 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Hhhmmmmmmm In-N-Outttttt

I’d bet there was a threat against Warren.


2 posted on 01/18/2009 1:56:50 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I am sure there were a bunch of threats against him by left wingers.


3 posted on 01/18/2009 1:57:30 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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To: autumnraine

MANY threats against Warren.


4 posted on 01/18/2009 1:58:34 PM PST by Palladin (Kudos to Chesley Sullenberger: a true American hero!)
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To: autumnraine

The Double Double was nice and cheesy, fries were great as always, and the Dr Pepepr washed it all down with just the right flavor.


5 posted on 01/18/2009 1:59:25 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

That’s Dr Pepper!


6 posted on 01/18/2009 1:59:48 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

They thought the Brokeback mob would show up.


7 posted on 01/18/2009 2:00:21 PM PST by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

You didn’t get it animal style?


8 posted on 01/18/2009 2:00:34 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: BurbankKarl
I am sure there were a bunch of threats against him by left wingers.

Considering his friendship with Zero and his support of Vicki Gene Robinson's appearance, I'm actually more upset with people who think The Purpose Driven Hypocrite is some sort of conservative.

9 posted on 01/18/2009 2:01:22 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: HokieMom
Nah, I'm a purist.
10 posted on 01/18/2009 2:05:33 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Great post. Thanks for the eyewitness account. That’s part of what FR is all about.


11 posted on 01/18/2009 2:08:46 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

As a Angelino native I must say that living in northeast Florida the thing I miss the most is In ‘n Out” They always have had the best burgers and I am 61 years old and the first one I remmember was on Franciscito road on our way to my grandparents house in La Puente.
Actually I don’t care for Rick Warren’s current theological direction. But I do wish him well.I would sooner discuss burgers.LOL!


12 posted on 01/18/2009 2:08:54 PM PST by lexington minuteman 1775
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To: SoCal Pubbie

They’re great any ol’ way. I attended that church two Chrismases ago. I liked how it’s still warm enough to sit outside in overflow and be comfortable.


13 posted on 01/18/2009 2:09:30 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

LOL Vicki Gene Robinson ROFL


14 posted on 01/18/2009 2:14:12 PM PST by AliVeritas (Prayers for Israel.)
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To: HokieMom

Love your tagline. Naturally he can’t recognize anti-Americanism; he’s not even an American citizen.


15 posted on 01/18/2009 2:14:38 PM PST by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Lavender mafia.


16 posted on 01/18/2009 2:18:53 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
The family that ownes In-N-Out are Christians. They always made a point to say Merry Christmas! and have scripture printed on their fry package's! They make the best fries in the world!
17 posted on 01/18/2009 2:19:09 PM PST by tajgirvan ( Thank you ,President Bush and First Lady Laura Bush We Will Miss you .)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Pictures! Pictures!


18 posted on 01/18/2009 2:20:39 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: SoCal Pubbie
That’s Dr Pepper!

Or 'Dr. Pecker' if you're in Laguna Beach, right? lol
19 posted on 01/18/2009 2:22:15 PM PST by mkjessup
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To: lexington minuteman 1775; SoCal Pubbie
I would sooner discuss burgers.

Me too but sadly I no longer can. We used to have this place in Redmond (WA) called the Workshop Tavern. Soon after I took a job here, my co-workers introduced me to the tradition of Friday burgers and beer at the Workshop. You had no options (there was a sign posted: "This isn't Burger King; you get it our way or you don't get the d*mned thing" or something like that). The Workshop had been around just about forever, as attested by the amount of grease that had soaked into the woodwork -- and we always worried that someday it might catch fire. Fortunately it never did... but "progress" finally caught up with it last year and it was torn down. *\:-(

All we have now are burger chains. *\:-(

20 posted on 01/18/2009 2:23:05 PM PST by sionnsar (Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/|RCongressIn2Years)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

My son used to be a member of the Church when he lived in California. I’ve attended a couple of services there.


21 posted on 01/18/2009 2:34:15 PM PST by Retired Chemist
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To: Colonel_Flagg
Considering his friendship with Zero and his support of Vicki Gene Robinson's appearance, I'm actually more upset with people who think The Purpose Driven Hypocrite is some sort of conservative.

The Purpose Driven craze is just works-based churchianity mixed with pop culture. So sad to see it invading even the liturgical churches. I have been reading "Christless Christianity: The Alternative Gospel of the American Church" by Michael Horton. I highly recommend that book to anyone who is not a liberal but yet is uneasy with a lot of things going on in so-called conservatives churches nowadays.

22 posted on 01/18/2009 2:40:09 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
We lived in Rowland Heights when the kids were little, now in Tn. A few years ago they left their grandmother's funeral early so that they could get an In ‘n Out” and not miss the plane.
23 posted on 01/18/2009 2:43:52 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: Palladin
All the threats and the huge amount of security around the inauguration is getting very creepy. Why all the threats? Obama is supposed to be loved by every single person on the planet.
24 posted on 01/18/2009 3:05:03 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: dandiegirl

You said — “All the threats and the huge amount of security around the inauguration is getting very creepy. Why all the threats? Obama is supposed to be loved by every single person on the planet. “

Ummm..., you haven’t been reading Free Republic lately, have you... :-)


25 posted on 01/18/2009 3:13:58 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

“Ummm..., you haven’t been reading Free Republic lately, have you... :-)”

I read Free Republic everyday and have not seen ANY threats to Obama! NONE! Please don’t post stuff like that on here..it is not true and only feeds the trolls and the real haters...the democrats and Obama brownshirts.


26 posted on 01/18/2009 3:26:26 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: penelopesire

I’m talking about the *overwhelming passion* against Obama taking office (which is what “generates” these types of things...).

Of course, it would be a stupid person who put in print what he was going to do... LOL...


27 posted on 01/18/2009 3:33:27 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“There was a big protest along the Portola entrance, with plenty of signs and rainbow flags”

I can’t stand militant gays. There’s no one more obnoxious group anywhere. PERIOD. And you’re right, they’re all over Laguna Beach. Been into Woody’s a time or two with a gay roommate and saw 50-year old men passing around a 14-year old kid or so. Perhaps the most disturbing, disgusting thing I’ve seen.


28 posted on 01/18/2009 3:35:54 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: SoCal Pubbie

In N Out is the one thing I took from Southern California that is amazing! We have Krystal in the south, but it’s NOTHING compared to the Double Double!


29 posted on 01/18/2009 3:36:08 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Star Traveler

You sure you are not a lib?

I remember when the libs and Clinton tried to blame Rush Limbaugh and his listeners for the Oklahoma Bombing..which was ridiculous. If someone attempts to harm Obama..it won’t be because almost half the country didn’t vote for him and voice their strong objections to his presidency. It will likely be a racist nut or an Islamic terrorist.


30 posted on 01/18/2009 3:40:45 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: tajgirvan

Must be why they stopped giving out bumper stickers. Bummer.


31 posted on 01/18/2009 3:41:12 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Government only does one thing well - WASTE MONEY!)
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To: tajgirvan

I still remember the french fries one guy in my hometown made in his little diner. We would go there for lunch. They were wonderful. I’ve never had any that were better except in a big 50s diner near Rochester. It was such a treat to get them. Yum.


32 posted on 01/18/2009 3:42:42 PM PST by Marysecretary (.GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL)
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To: penelopesire

You asked — “You sure you are not a lib?”

LOL..., I’ve been asked that a lot by some who don’t like some of what I simply call “realism”. That’s all it really is. I did not vote for Obama and campaigned against him before the election. I even mentioned all this stuff about his qualifications per the Constitution. But, unfortunately, I lost — and that’s the “realism” that we have here.

And furthermore, no matter how *passionate* someone is in getting rid of Obama — it still has to happen in a “real-life scenario”. Too many people take what I say has to happen in “real life” as liking Obama. And that’s not true.

I’ve also said that we need to close up the hole in the vetting system by passing state laws requiring documented proof of the candidates qualifications per the Constitution. Oklahoma is already proceeding on that issue now (when the next session opens).

So, no..., I’m not. Also look at my home page, too. In any case, I’ll still maintain that we have to do this in a “real world scenario” that *actually works*. We’re not writing “novels” here — but trying to get something to happen — “for real”...

In regards to — “I remember when the libs and Clinton tried to blame Rush Limbaugh and his listeners for the Oklahoma Bombing..which was ridiculous. If someone attempts to harm Obama..it won’t be because almost half the country didn’t vote for him and voice their strong objections to his presidency. It will likely be a racist nut or an Islamic terrorist.”

I think that was Islamic terrorists connections. There’s a book out by Jayna Davis that documents that. McVeigh was connected with them and some other “Christian Identity” group in Eastern Oklahoma...


33 posted on 01/18/2009 3:47:00 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I remember studying some of Jayna’s stuff after 911. The woman has some extensive and convincing research to back up her claims. Most of us are passionate about stopping Obama and the dems ‘march to marxism’. No one on here wants anything bad (like an assasination) to happen to Obama. I just think we need to be careful what we take from people’s posts and not assume that because they say they ‘want to stop Obama’..that they mean something sinister.


34 posted on 01/18/2009 4:04:42 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Wilhelm Tell

As a Catholic I felt that it’s great, I don’t have to worry about any of that drek but I do, really, because it is no fun at all watching my Protestant compatriots getting sucked into these things. It affects the whole country adversely. And, we had problems of a similar sort in the 70s-90s with the “modernizing” of the Catholic Church. Thankfully that is going away bit by bit.


35 posted on 01/18/2009 4:07:33 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: penelopesire

Yeah, she has great information. Too bad the government didn’t seem to want to do anything with it. Steven Emerson in his video and book Jihad in America is quite revealing, too. He was very early on this stuff, long before 9/11 happened.

And no, I haven’t seen anyone advocating that kind of violence. I’m sure if anyone did, they wouldn’t be here for long... :-)


36 posted on 01/18/2009 4:10:18 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Massachusetts is already a Homosexual State. I hate to see California slide down that same cloacal tube but it seems to be the wave of the future there. But about the time California gets to Massachusetts level the state will be bankrupt, anyway.


37 posted on 01/18/2009 4:10:31 PM PST by arthurus ( H.L. Mencken said, "Every election is a sort of advance auction sale of stolen goods.")
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To: Star Traveler
“Why all the threats?”

I don't have any info that anyone else doesn't have, and I don't pretend to have a crystal ball.

However.

I have a hunch that a lot of the “threats” are phony and are simply an excuse to increase the power of the Police State that the Democrats have created. If you are going to have a Welfare State, then you must have a Police State to enforce it, otherwise the people paying the bills might say “NO” at some point. Now that the country is moving from a simple Welfare State to a totally Fascist State, the powers that be will need a stronger Police State. And to do that without resistance requires some phony rationale.

38 posted on 01/18/2009 4:11:27 PM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: buccaneer81
Love your tagline. Naturally he can’t recognize anti-Americanism; he’s not even an American citizen.

Frustrating, isn't it.

39 posted on 01/18/2009 4:11:40 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: arthurus
Massachusetts is already a Homosexual State. I hate to see California slide down that same cloacal tube but it seems to be the wave of the future there. But about the time California gets to Massachusetts level the state will be bankrupt, anyway.

Don't worry. Our slide toward Mexification is happening much faster than our slide toward homosexualization these days, and Mexicans don't like gays.
40 posted on 01/18/2009 4:13:11 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: ChicagahAl

And while that may be true... it’s also very true that the pro-homo groups act violently in pushing their agendas. I would say that they are the main culprits here...


41 posted on 01/18/2009 4:14:49 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: penelopesire
No one on here wants anything bad (like an assasination) to happen to Obama. I just think we need to be careful what we take from people’s posts and not assume that because they say they ‘want to stop Obama’..that they mean something sinister.

So I had a severe tinfoil hat moment the other day, where I was thinking that if something were to happen to Obama, it would probably come from the Left. Think about this: the communist playbook for taking over a country is to destabilize it, cause civil war, and then reclaim the wreckage. In our case, if a bunch of globalist commies like George Soros wanted to make that happen in the US, they could prop up their candidate, use their fellow travelers in the media to cover for him and make him "hip" and "cool" and popular, get him into office, and then assassinate him. Having him be the first black president is a key element of this scheme, because the Left has been stirring up racial hatred in this country for decades, and such a thing happening to Obama would guarantee a civil war of the nastiest kind, and everyone would automatically blame the Right. All the idiots who voted for Obama would gladly follow whomever pledged to take revenge on the Right.

Pretty far-fetched, eh? Or is it?
42 posted on 01/18/2009 4:20:43 PM PST by fr_freak
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To: CaspersGh0sts

Did you report that to the police?


43 posted on 01/18/2009 4:22:21 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Star Traveler

Don’t have Emerson’s book yet, but have a mini collection of books on fighting Al Qaeda by some leading experts in the battle. I like Kenneth Timmerman’s ‘Preachers of Hate’ and ‘Shadow Warriors’. Here is a partial list if you are interested:

Oriana Fallaci: ‘The Force of Reason’

Jed Babbin: ‘In The Words Of Our Enemies’

Norman Pohoretz: ‘World War IV’

David Horowitz: ‘Unholy Alliance’

Paul Sperry: ‘Infiltration’

Thanks to our brave military and President Bush, my interest in the topic is not as pressing as it once was.... we are safer now because of their sacrifice and service. It won’t be long though until every enemy of the US starts saber rattling our new ‘lame on terror’ President. They have already started, according to some of the recent press coming from Iran, North Korea, Russia and others.


44 posted on 01/18/2009 4:25:23 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Star Traveler

“I would say that they are the main culprits here...”

If you are referring to the police presence at Saddleback, then that would appear to be correct.

My post was a response to a question that I interpreted to refer to threats against Obama. I certainly don’t see the homosexual mafia as being a threat to Obama. Who elese do they have? No one is more left than Obama. They would never be so dumb as to threaten him.


45 posted on 01/18/2009 4:28:05 PM PST by ChicagahAl (It's mourning in America. Mourning our dearly departed freedom, liberty, security and wealth.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Maybe they were just expecting a big collection.


46 posted on 01/18/2009 4:29:10 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (What's Obama's Secret?)
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To: penelopesire

Okay, and thanks...

A few names to add to that... Nonie Darwish, Brigitte Gabriel, Walid Shoebat — all having direct experience with Muslims, some being former Muslims and one a former terrorists in Israel (no longer, though...).

The above do have websites and books and videos (on the net, plus radio interviews and so on). I could do some searches, but I figure you can, too... :-)


47 posted on 01/18/2009 4:31:07 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: ChicagahAl

Yeah, you’re right...


48 posted on 01/18/2009 4:31:52 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: fr_freak

I would not put anything past the communists and marxists. Another thing that many people don’t realize is the unholy alliance between skinheads and Islamists these days. While the press would love to pin a crazy skinhead on the conservative right side of the spectrum...many of them are nothing more than jew and black hating racists in sympathy with Islamists around the world.

So no...I don’t think you are crazy or a tin foil hatter to think such things. Russia/China have been waging a proxy war against us for decades through Iran,Syria, North Korea and Venezuela..to name just a few.


49 posted on 01/18/2009 4:36:54 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: fr_freak

According to polling data on the passage of prop 8, neither do the blacks...they supported prop 8 by 70%+ margine!


50 posted on 01/18/2009 4:39:50 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!)
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