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So, what are your plans for the coming debacle?
Vanity | January 18, 2009 | WCF

Posted on 01/18/2009 7:25:44 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth

This thread (if it survives the moderators) is meant to be an end of the Republic commemorative. Bracketed by end of the Julian calendar and the Chinese New year, I thought a repository of comments marking the rise of a new leftist messiah to be sardonic and fitting.

Before any FReepers hit the ABUSE button, please look around youself . . . with kooky vanities about just-the-right-puppy-breeds and the non-stop religious scripts and debates abounding on NEWS/ACTIVISM, I thought a simple question about what conservatives were personally considering doing during the promise of a new age of fascism might be worthwhile.
So, given that we're all of a conservative mindset and that (as adults) we all recognize what the next four years (or decade and beyond) might herald, I ask: What are your plans? Where do you plan to go and what do you plan to do in years of the coming darkness?


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To: Gabz
Tonight I read

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My darling mother got it for me for Christmas.

Tomorrow, I quilt!

201 posted on 01/18/2009 10:23:11 PM PST by kimmie7 (***even deeper sigh***)
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To: kimmie7
I want a greenhouse so very badly! Alas, we probably won’t get one done this yearP> You and I are in the same boat.

Although we could still easily pull together a small cold frame.

I probably could a well, but I'm not going to go to the bother. Hubby has been doing the renovations on our Pastor's house and the next big project is replacing the windows. The replacement windows have already been delivered and we get to keep the ones he removes. He's going to build my "greenhouse" out of them.

Found out I can grow hot peppers like nobody’s business! LOL

I was always able to do that, until last year :( I plan on winning the garden battle this year.

202 posted on 01/18/2009 10:24:32 PM PST by Gabz
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To: o_zarkman44

Sounds like you all are talking about Oregon County. An area called The Irish Wilderness is pretty remote. We live in Howell County which is also beautiful but a little more traveled. We get alot of retirees from the west coast and they love it, and often their children relocate here.


203 posted on 01/18/2009 10:25:31 PM PST by chronicles
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To: Just mythoughts

Just a note if you decide to go there. They are closed on Saturdays but open Sundays.
The festival weekend is quite interesting. Lots of laid back people selling books, plants, herbs and various other items like honey and jams, jellys. And more seed than you can imagine.


204 posted on 01/18/2009 10:26:45 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

The biggest change that I see for our family is that it makes it far more likely we will be doing homeschooling. Our twins are not quite two yet, but I am looking ahead, and I will not have that cant dinned into their ears for 12 years. Their middle names are those of two of our greatest patriots (Washington and Franklin) and I will do my best to teach them the true history of this country, and to love freedom and truth.

As for Tuesday morning, my boys and I will not be glued to the TV. We’ll be going to a playdate instead — far more useful and inspiring. So there! ;)


205 posted on 01/18/2009 10:27:07 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (Q: How many Obamas does it take to change a light bulb? A: THAT'S NOT FUNNY!)
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To: JDoutrider; Joya

Actually, I think housemate Joya has tabs on the gardening list . . . which, IIRC, has moved to yahoo because of some silliness with a mod or something or other.

I mostly just do tomatoes. Passive raised bed greenhouse affair has kept them going but too hot in the day to pollinate and too cold at night to set fruit! LOL. Can give you the design of that sometime if you’re interested.

Heading to bed shortly.


206 posted on 01/18/2009 10:27:52 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

207 posted on 01/18/2009 10:28:40 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: kimmie7

I’m pretty sure you’re on it, but I added you anyway, just in case!!!!! I had a pretty heavy duty crash right around Christmas, so at this point I’m not taking any chances :)


208 posted on 01/18/2009 10:28:44 PM PST by Gabz
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To: Gabz

LOL, you’re a kindred spirit! I saw a plan somewhere for using old storm windows (and doors!) and showed it to hubby. He is actually getting kinda excited about the idea. Especially since he’s been eating fresh-as-sunshine-tasting tomatoes and green beans this winter. Not to mention those heavenly peaches I canned. $20 for a half bushel at the Mennonite markets. I canned a whole bushel one week. That weekend I went to the farmers market (for ritzy and artsy liberal type folk) and they wanted $8 for a tiny little basket of much inferior peaches. harrumph. Mine were already lined up waiting their transformation into yummilicious deserts this winter.


209 posted on 01/18/2009 10:29:34 PM PST by kimmie7 (***even deeper sigh***)
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To: o_zarkman44

Check out Duduman’s dreams and visions vis a vis the Chinese . . .

http://www.mikeboldea.blogspot.com/

Search for it on his website.

Middle of the country is supposedly slated to be a back and forth battled no-man’s land for an extended time, IIRC.


210 posted on 01/18/2009 10:29:55 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: chronicles

Isn’t the Irish Wilderness located in Reynolds County? Same general area though.


211 posted on 01/18/2009 10:30:07 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: o_zarkman44
Just a note if you decide to go there. They are closed on Saturdays but open Sundays. The festival weekend is quite interesting. Lots of laid back people selling books, plants, herbs and various other items like honey and jams, jellys. And more seed than you can imagine.

Thanks for the heads on Saturday being closed. Have you been to the Wilder home and museum? I have heard it is fairly expensive but I sure would like to take a tour of it if and when I go down?

212 posted on 01/18/2009 10:30:11 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Dr.Zoidberg

Done deal!


213 posted on 01/18/2009 10:31:39 PM PST by Gabz
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To: o_zarkman44

T’is done!


214 posted on 01/18/2009 10:36:02 PM PST by Gabz
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To: o_zarkman44

No, but my Mom was born and raised in Reynolds County and it is just about as remote as Oregon or Shannon Counties. My husband’s family all live in Alton, Mo which is Oregon County seat. You would love the Eleven Point River that runs through the Irish Wilderness. There are wild horses in that area.


215 posted on 01/18/2009 10:40:28 PM PST by chronicles
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To: kimmie7

I want that book!!!!!!!!

For Christmas my daughter gave me a 1973 edition of Southern Living’s Entertaining cookbook. It was 50cents in the Hospice Thrift store! I’m teaching her early!!! LOL! She also found a wonderful cutting board as well.

God bless her, at 10 she’s as tighr with a buck as her mom!


216 posted on 01/18/2009 10:45:42 PM PST by Gabz
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To: chronicles

I have a sis in law who lives near Doniphan. I love the areas, esp around the current river.


217 posted on 01/18/2009 10:46:48 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Gabz; All

Time for bed. Nite all. Nice discussion!! Catch ya next time!


218 posted on 01/18/2009 10:48:53 PM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: Just mythoughts
"lol You know Mtn. Grove?"

Let's put it this way. I've been known by quite a few in and around Mtn. Grove, in the Early Modern sense. ;-)


219 posted on 01/18/2009 10:52:20 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Quix

I was wondering about that... I’m already plugged into that list, thanks anyway!


220 posted on 01/18/2009 10:54:26 PM PST by JDoutrider (Heading to Galt's Gulch... It is time.)
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To: kimmie7

You go girl!!!!!!!

And on that note this girl is going to go -— to bed that is -— I just saw the time. I’ll pick up where I’ve left off sometime later this morning.

Nitey nite all!!!!


221 posted on 01/18/2009 10:55:06 PM PST by Gabz
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To: o_zarkman44

Alton is about 40 miles of bad road (but a beautiful drive) west of Doniphan. The only drawback of that area for older people is if you have emergency medical needs you get air-evac helicoptered to West Plains or Springfield.


222 posted on 01/18/2009 10:55:13 PM PST by chronicles
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To: familyop
Let's put it this way. I've been known by quite a few in and around Mtn. Grove, in the Early Modern sense. ;-)

Well you sure have my curiosity going here. As Mtn. Grove is not a place you just happen to drive to or by. It is somewhat off the beaten path. One of my relatives surveyed Wright County many many years ago and is buried in a private cemetery near Mtn. Grove..

If you don't mind telling how do you know Mtn. Grove or how is it you are known in and around Mtn. Grove?

223 posted on 01/18/2009 10:59:46 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Did you perhaps once stop by the Brandin’ Iron during my younger, more stupid nights, look up at me, and say, “I thought you’d be bigger?” ...didn’t really happen in Jasper, you know. ...or years before then, maybe have a chat with a tall, young man from Texas? ;-)

But then I’m gettin’ kind of old. ;-) It was a nice area to pick blackberries and mushrooms in, though. And because of the Army training and personal change toward conservative ways since then, old friends there wouldn’t recognize me.


224 posted on 01/18/2009 11:02:57 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: Just mythoughts

We live only about 40 miles from Mtn. Grove, do I need to investigate this for you? :-)


225 posted on 01/18/2009 11:03:33 PM PST by chronicles
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Coming late to the thread....BTTT!!!

Cool idea for a thread!


226 posted on 01/18/2009 11:03:54 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Gabz

I saw some at Amazon for $19 used. It is a wonderful book, but I couldn’t bring myself to pay that much for it.


227 posted on 01/18/2009 11:05:18 PM PST by kimmie7 (***even deeper sigh***)
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To: Gabz

Night! I’m going to try to turn in too. Hubby’s snoring has lessened to a dull roar.


228 posted on 01/18/2009 11:07:43 PM PST by kimmie7 (***even deeper sigh***)
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To: familyop
Did you perhaps once stop by the Brandin’ Iron during my younger, more stupid nights, look up at me, and say, “I thought you’d be bigger?” ...didn’t really happen in Jasper, you know. ...or years before then, maybe have a chat with a tall, young man from Texas? ;-) But then I’m gettin’ kind of old. ;-) It was a nice area to pick blackberries and mushrooms in, though. And because of the Army training and personal change toward conservative ways since then, old friends there wouldn’t recognize me.

No first hand information, just 'tales' from relatives regarding the area.

229 posted on 01/18/2009 11:08:07 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: dixiechick2000

Didja see this thread?


230 posted on 01/18/2009 11:09:18 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Quix
But the most critical prep is spiritual.

Without a DOUBT!

231 posted on 01/18/2009 11:14:01 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: chronicles
We live only about 40 miles from Mtn. Grove, do I need to investigate this for you? :-)

LOL.... I sure did find out what "Early Modern sense" means now didn't I....

It is a very very pretty area, but has been years since I have been there. The 'tales' I heard as a kid regarding the area sure sounded like mountain men lived there...

232 posted on 01/18/2009 11:16:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Placemarker


233 posted on 01/18/2009 11:21:32 PM PST by Bradís Gramma ( PRAY! Pray for the U.S. Pray for Israel.)
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To: Just mythoughts

BTW, my great-grandfather worked for the Long Bell Lumber Co. (later International Paper) way back when (after the Depression) and chose pine forests around that part of the country for cutting (Missouri and Arkansas). ...reason for so many oak trees there now. :-)


234 posted on 01/18/2009 11:21:44 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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To: familyop
BTW, my great-grandfather worked for the Long Bell Lumber Co. (later International Paper) way back when (after the Depression) and chose pine forests around that part of the country for cutting (Missouri and Arkansas). ...reason for so many oak trees there now. :-)

That whole area got hit really bad a couple of years back with an ice storm... mile after mile of broken trees, looked like a war zone.

Nice chatting ... got to get rest .

235 posted on 01/18/2009 11:29:04 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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To: Colonial Warrior

Dear God...please tell me that’s a photoshop.


236 posted on 01/18/2009 11:34:33 PM PST by hoagy62 (Tidings of comfort and joy are now too expensive.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Nope...sure didn’t!

I’ll take a gander tomorrow.
Looks very interesting.

Thank you for the ping!


237 posted on 01/18/2009 11:37:55 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Tagline lost due to the lack of a bailout.)
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To: Gabz

Been hesitant to bother you since you posted your IRL hassles, but please sign me to the gardening list.

I am interested right now in any advice on Park Seed’s peat seed plugs. They aren’t working for me, at all.


238 posted on 01/18/2009 11:49:24 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Just mythoughts

Mtn. Grove area is still pretty but not as isolated now with US 60, a dual highway going right near it. I don’t know if there are still mountain men around now but my forbearers would have qualified, as we have 8 generations in So. Missouri.


239 posted on 01/18/2009 11:58:52 PM PST by chronicles
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To: Dr.Zoidberg
Ordered a catalog from Baker Creek around the first of January. I’d order online, but I prefer to send a money order. Call me old fashioned...

Your post prompted me to quit lurking and make this comment. First, be warned, the language here is not pretty, but there is a "Frankenstein" similar to the Echelon or Carnivore projects. Take it for what it's worth, but it's not something I'd put past this new ominstration. I was turned on to this site while the media refused to report any good news about Iraq (while my daughter was over there), and the owner did a fabulous job of reporting, similar to Michael Yon.

To celebrate Tuesday, I'm buying myself a Beretta .45, I believe it's the Px4 model, but it's late and I might have that wrong. I'm excited to get to the range and finally start practicing.

We are buying a generator, and also revamping the fireplace. Currently, it's a waste (we've lived here 13 years and used it 2-3 times. It's old and the heat just gets sucked up the chimney. We're lucky, because we have lots of trees, and still have 3 really crappy cottonwoods that be perfect for burning, plus the normal loss of a branch that's as big as a city tree.

We're on a well, so water won't be a problem, but the generator will come in handy if brown or blackouts occur. We've already learned that coal is eeeevil.... yada yada yada

Like many mentioned on this thread, I'm expanding our tiny patio garden and starting to learn how to can and perhaps get a dehydrator. If I can bake bread from scratch, I'm sure I can learn to can food.

I also am crafty, and am looking for ways to sell my sewing and knitting. We have a local farmers market, but you need to be licensed to particapate, so, a monthly/weekly "farmers market" in my yard might be an option.

We are trying to go "low tech". The less info out there for the enemy to gather, the better. See the above Frankenstein.

We are working on paying off the rest of our bills, and possibly bury gold in our yard (just seeing if you're still awake on that last one...)

On the TV issue, Turner Classic Movies (TCM) is an awesome movie site, they play non stop movies and have their lib actor interview now and then. In 2007, we bought a DVR recorder, and my hubby has recorded over 1000 movies (That's not a typo). They range from 1917 to 2008 (the 2008 is a doc on 9-11). I know, I've cataloged them in a database. If you're not into old movies, I suggest you might try them. Especially the pre-code era, but hide the kiddies. The WWII movies are awesome, and there's a ton less PC junk in them. Cary Grant is a favorite of mine. Other than waiting for season 5 of Lost to come out on DVD, I'll continue to ban any liberal TV.

PS. Google has it's MLK graphic up, I can hardly wait for Tuesday's graphic.

240 posted on 01/19/2009 12:15:07 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: All

Here’s how we are preparing: Hubby and I have just finished passing a conceal and carry class. I have also been canning meat items as I have found them on sale. i will be canning beans next. (pinto, etc.) I’m planning a larger garden this year (if I can keep the deer away; they ate my fall tomato plants) and we are working with our grown kids to help them get on a better financial footing.

Because any solution must be spiritual, we are praying daily that God will intervene and grant mercy to our country. We are claiming the promise that: “If MY PEOPLE, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and heal their land.” We are trying to apply those principles in our lives and teach others about them through our Bible classes. We are remaining confident that God will protect His children in the midst of any crisis-—just as He has promised.

No political TV about O, although we listen to Rush. Several months ago, we cancelled our newspaper subscription and just get our news via net. We are praying with anticipation that God will give us conservative, godly leadership we can support. I also am thankful to God for websites such as FR where people of like mind can gather. I believe that God must have been preparing us all for “such a time as this.”


241 posted on 01/19/2009 12:17:24 AM PST by betsyross60
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To: Quix

The center of the Roman Empire was in Turkey until it ceased to be an empire. The ten nation consortium may have nothing to do with Europe at all. More likely muslim.


242 posted on 01/19/2009 12:21:32 AM PST by gost2
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To: Aglooka

I’ll move to any state that secedes and vows to uphold the US Constitution, word for word. I highly doubt Wisconsin will secede. Texas, Alaska, Oklahoma, any state that upholds the current US constitution.

Here’s an interesting fact. The Revolution occurred because people were ticked off they paid the government taxes until January 15th in wages. I’ll see if I can find the source. That turbo tax commercial, the one with the founding fathers coming out of dollar bills, is offensive.


243 posted on 01/19/2009 12:36:39 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: All
I can't seem to find it, I'll keep looking, but here's the data from 1900 through 2008. (scroll down a bit, it's broken down by states)

Table 1
Tax Freedom Day and Tax Burden, Selected Years 1900 - 2008
Year

Tax Freedom Day


Taxes as a Percentage of Income

1900 January 22 5.9%
1910 January 19 5.0%
1920 February 13 12.0%
1930 February 12 11.7%
1940 March 7 17.9%
1950 March 31 24.6%
1960 April 11 27.7%
1970 April 19 29.6%
1980 April 21 30.4%
1990 April 21 30.4%
2000 May 3 33.6%
2001 April 30 32.6%
2002 April 19 29.8%
2003 April 16 29.0%
2004 April 17 29.3%
2005 April 23 30.9%
2006 April 26 31.5%
2007 April 26 31.7%
2008 April 23 30.8%
Source: Office of Management and Budget; Internal Revenue Service; Congressional Research Service; National Bureau of Economic Research; Tax Foundation.

244 posted on 01/19/2009 12:53:48 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Liberty Valance

245 posted on 01/19/2009 1:10:41 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Indy Pendance

Bump for future read...


246 posted on 01/19/2009 1:19:08 AM PST by meyer (We are all John Galt)
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To: meyer
I have a "Who is John Galt" decal on my gas guzzling SUV, my hubby has the bumper sticker.....
247 posted on 01/19/2009 1:24:30 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: mojitojoe

Like your tag. A good bumper sticker. Did you think of it?


248 posted on 01/19/2009 2:19:39 AM PST by WHATNEXT? ((Are they going to call him Mr. or Pres.?))
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To: Gabz

Didn’t know Fr had a gardening list. I’d like to be added...thanks.


249 posted on 01/19/2009 2:23:05 AM PST by WHATNEXT? ((Are they going to call him Mr. or Pres.?))
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To: rose
I'm thinking of taking Joe Biden's advice and "girding my loins".

Actually, I saw this coming years ago and moved a big portion of my family business offshore. I picked a country that I thought was 180 degrees politically out of phase with the US.

However, my boys (now young men) are here, so I doubt I'll exercise that option.

My recommendation to anyone is to start your own business as a corporation. The corporation is the mechanism that those in power have always used to dodge the mob, and anyone can put it to work for themselves.

250 posted on 01/19/2009 3:28:12 AM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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