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Shadow of vigilantes appears in Mexico drug war
Yahoo! News ^ | Jan 19, 2009 | Julian Cardona

Posted on 01/19/2009 10:51:08 PM PST by LuxMaker

CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico (Reuters) –

Shadowy vigilante groups are threatening Mexico's drug gangs near the U.S. border in retaliation for a wave of murders and kidnappings that killed 1,600 people in this city alone last year.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; crime; drugs; illegals; mexico; warnextdoor; warondrugs
Vigilantes arise when authorities are paralyzed and powerless.
1 posted on 01/19/2009 10:51:11 PM PST by LuxMaker
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To: AuntB; Tennessee Nana; AmericanInTokyo

GOD'S CHILDREN PING


2 posted on 01/19/2009 10:52:39 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: LuxMaker

Funny, didn’t GWB denounce “vigilante” Minutemen?

He preferred handing tax money to foreign nationals.


3 posted on 01/19/2009 10:56:43 PM PST by wac3rd (In the end, we all are Conservative, some just need their lives jolted to realize that fact.)
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To: LuxMaker

“Shadowy vigilante groups are threatening Mexico’s drug gangs”

Happened in Columbia, why not Mexico?


4 posted on 01/19/2009 10:59:59 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: LuxMaker

The government of Mexico has ceased to function. 1,600 murders by the ruling criminal gangs in one city alone.

The vigilantes are excercising a fundamental human right, the right to self-survival.

It is the reason we have a Second Amendment. The ban on “assault weapons” is a violation of that right.


5 posted on 01/19/2009 11:03:57 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: LuxMaker

Murder, abductions, corrupt police, soldiers and politicians - what do you expect?


6 posted on 01/19/2009 11:25:30 PM PST by smokingfrog (Never underestimate the influence of a wife who bitch-slaps her husband in public.)
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To: LuxMaker

someone has to do it... maybe they should import some Mexicans from the USA to do the job they won’t do.


7 posted on 01/19/2009 11:26:50 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the Oministration. The nightmare begins.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

When the young thugs Piss Off the old farts...That is the theme of Eastwood’s current flick!
It will be Ego VS Experience.


8 posted on 01/19/2009 11:27:03 PM PST by PizzaDriver (an heinleinian/libertarian)
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To: FormerACLUmember

That city is barely divided from El Paso, USA


9 posted on 01/19/2009 11:27:39 PM PST by GeronL (DAY 1, YEAR 0 - The first day of the Oministration. The nightmare begins.)
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To: rabscuttle385

10 posted on 01/20/2009 12:21:17 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: LuxMaker

The government is worse than paralyzed. They’ve impotent.

The central problem in Mexico (and in Columbia in the past) was that the cartels had completely infiltrated the government and law enforcement. They did this through bribery, extortion and terror.

What the government does in response to finding someone on the take is go through all the nice, legal and nice enforcement: arrest, trial, etc.

What a government needs to do in this case is make people who turn towards the cartels fear the government more than the cartels.

The first requirement for the government here is to eliminate their opposition to the death penalty.


11 posted on 01/20/2009 12:36:03 AM PST by NVDave
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To: LuxMaker

“They’ve become impotent” is what that should have read.


12 posted on 01/20/2009 12:36:43 AM PST by NVDave
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To: LuxMaker

I was just saying today that vigilantiism is exactly what is needed. In a smalll town near Juarez just recently the police disappeared and they have found the head of the chief of police. The authorities aren’t paralyzed and powerless, they are dead.


13 posted on 01/20/2009 12:38:26 AM PST by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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To: tiki
"The authorities aren’t paralyzed and powerless, they are dead.

I'm sorry, I don't see a distinction.
14 posted on 01/20/2009 6:55:07 AM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: LuxMaker; AuntB; BGHater; SisterK; Kimberly GG; ronnyquest; Cvengr; CPT Clay; MNDude; BellStar; ...

Vigilantes ping!

If you want on, or off this S. Texas/Mexico ping list, please FReepMail me.


15 posted on 01/20/2009 7:38:03 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Mexico - beyond your expectations.)
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To: AuntB

FYI


16 posted on 01/20/2009 8:36:23 AM PST by eureka! (Dear Lord: Some epiphanies for some of the 'rats now in charge, particularly BO? Please...)
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To: LuxMaker
For quite awhile now we've been saying that mexicans should stay home and clean up their own country - this is a start and may be the only way to get it done.

Remember that the Second Amendment is there because governments can fail in their job and governments can overreach their bounds. mexico seems capable of both at once.

17 posted on 01/20/2009 10:00:40 AM PST by norton
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To: JSteff

I have been saying for a year now that what Mexico needs is a good dose of Los Pepes, the more clandestine the better. They did much to improve the situation in Colombia, and basically ensured that Pablo Escobar and his compinches went down. Of course there are some who objected to Los Pepes’ methods. Ni modo. The government in Mexico is going to just freak on out if the vigilantes do a better job of defeating the narcos than the government has been able to do. I especially liked the PRI guy in the Chihuahua legislature crying fowl. The PRI created the systems that made possible all the corruption we are witnessing today. The narcos took it and ran with it.


18 posted on 01/20/2009 1:34:47 PM PST by 3AngelaD (They screwed up their own countries so bad they had to leave, and now they're here screwing up ours.)
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To: 3AngelaD
“The government in Mexico is going to just freak on out if the vigilantes do a better job of defeating the narcos than the government has been able to do. “

That is because that government runs rife with corruption. A government job in Mexico carries to paychecks and two masters... the government (citizens) (low pay) and the narco terrorists (high pay).

Like Columbia the citizens and vigilantes did so well because the citizens had enough of not having only one master. In Columbia it succeeded because the citizenry had enough of two masters and eliminated one.

The other side of that is that the viable vigilantes had support of the U.S. government in both resources and pressure on the Columbian government.

Will that happen in Mexico?

19 posted on 01/20/2009 8:32:07 PM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and may have doomed us for a generation or more.)
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To: LuxMaker

This is nothing new in Latin America or in Mexico’s history.

When corrupt governments lose control, the wealthy oligarchs pay for private body guards to protect themselves and their property first, then turn to private armies to try to exterminate the lawbreakers.


20 posted on 01/21/2009 12:36:33 PM PST by wildbill
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To: smokingfrog
Murder, abductions, corrupt police, soldiers and politicians - what do you expect?

From a Marxist kakistocracy?

Refugees ...

Oh, yes ... we have those, too.

21 posted on 01/21/2009 12:39:29 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: LuxMaker

‘Bout darn time.
Best of luck to ‘em. They’re facing a vicious foe with absolutely no conscience or restraint. They need to prepared to respond in kind.


22 posted on 01/21/2009 12:42:47 PM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: JSteff
A Mexican version of Los Pepes.

About damned time....

L

23 posted on 01/21/2009 12:45:36 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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