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Robinson's speech: Divisive, as expected
Manchester Union Leader ^ | January 20, 2009 | Editorial

Posted on 01/20/2009 4:25:28 AM PST by billorites

Gene Robinson, Episcopal bishop of New Hampshire, gave the opening prayer for the inaugural festivities in Washington, D.C., on Sunday. Ignoring the theme of unity set for the inauguration, Robinson gave not a prayer but a political speech, one worthy of a college sophomore hot to tweak his parents.

Robinson explained his non-Christian "prayer" by saying he thought previous inaugural prayers were "aggressively Christian." In hope of excluding no one, he excluded Christ. Except, he mentioned God, so he left the athiests out in the cold. Oh, well.

By Robinson's own logic, he should not have been allowed to pray at all for fear of offending nonbelievers. But that's silly. And so is refusing to mention Christ for fear of offending non-Christians.

Through the years, Robinson has had many opportunities to make his beliefs known in ways that don't offend and divide people. Most of the time, he chooses to divide. For a man of God, that's really not productive behavior. But it sure draws a lot of attention to Gene Robinson.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: bhoinauguration; ecusa; homosexualbishop; religiousleft

1 posted on 01/20/2009 4:25:29 AM PST by billorites
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To: billorites

Radical HOMOSEXUALITY will ALWAYS exclude Jesus Christ!!


2 posted on 01/20/2009 4:27:31 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: billorites

Why do they always have to mention New Hampshire when his name comes up? Oh the shame.


3 posted on 01/20/2009 4:39:04 AM PST by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: billorites
Except, he mentioned God

Actually, he didn't.

He addressed our "god of many understandings". Whatever that is, it most certainly is not YHWH, the Word, the way, the truth, and the life, or our Father in Heaven.

4 posted on 01/20/2009 4:41:53 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: Jim Noble

Gene Robinson is a moron.... Not because he is gay.

How can you claim to be a christian and then be ashamed to say a christian prayer ?


5 posted on 01/20/2009 4:54:56 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." Barry Goldwater)
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To: billorites

I am so glad that I’m no longer an Episcopalian.

It’s too bad that the church died. I really liked it when the church still believed in God, the Bible, and Christ.

But, I have learned just to write it off as one lost battle in the culture war.


6 posted on 01/20/2009 5:00:16 AM PST by dbehsman (NRA Life Member and loving every minute of it!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
How can you claim to be a christian and then be ashamed to say a christian prayer ?

Well, of course, you can't.

Is there a public record of Robinson claiming to be a Christian?

7 posted on 01/20/2009 5:06:57 AM PST by Jim Noble (Long May Our Land Be Bright With Freedom's Holy Light)
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To: billorites

How can this man be a bishop in ANY Christian church?? Never mind that he’s gay. He prefers to leave Christ out of his prayers? What an embarrassment to the Episcopal Church.


8 posted on 01/20/2009 5:31:00 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: dbehsman

Gene Robinson saved me - when he was elevated to Bishop, my wife agreed to stop going to the Episcopal church and we started going to a non-denominational church. The first service’s message was totally focused on the gift of Christ and I was saved that day. I don’t think I would have ever had my eyes opened if we continued with the Episcopal church.


9 posted on 01/20/2009 5:35:00 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: dbehsman

Another former Episcopalian, here.

CBS’s wonderful reporter just reported that Rick Warren came out of St. John’s to welcome Biden when, in fact, it was Rev. Dr. León, St. John’s rector.


10 posted on 01/20/2009 5:36:07 AM PST by freema (MarineNiece,Daughter,Wife,Friend,Sister,Friend,Aunt,Friend,Mother,Friend,Cousin, FRiend)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative; Jim Noble

Well, Jesus already said what He would do for those who confess Him before men, and I assume we can also assume the converse to be true:

Matthew 10:32
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.


11 posted on 01/20/2009 5:40:36 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: billorites
From the comments section at the article link:

"Don't feel too bad, apparently the microphone or speakers stopped working as soon as Robinson started his tirade, and only a few people at the front actually heard him. The vast 700 thousand more couldn't hear a word, and as the Obama inauguration team told HBO that Robinson's "prayer" was confined to the pre-show portion, it wasn't recorded or televised across the nation.

Perhaps God's hand in action? I think he's trying to tell Gene Robinson something, let's hope he listens.

- Karen Duffy, Manchester, NH"

12 posted on 01/20/2009 5:59:42 AM PST by Captain Rhino (The best way to calm the delusions of grandeur in the energy cartel is to stop needing their energy)
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To: billorites

A truly disgusting Lout.


13 posted on 01/20/2009 6:07:53 AM PST by chatham
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To: billorites
Even if we ignore the Bible's clear stance on homosexual acts, as Robinson so enthusiastically does, this "man" has no business running a church. This is part of Robinson's biography:

Robinson and Isabella's first daughter, Jamee, was born in 1977, followed by a second daughter, Ella, in 1981.

In November 1987, Robinson met his current partner, a man 19 years younger named Mark Andrew, while on vacation in St. Croix, when his daughters were about ages 10 and 6.

On 2 July 1988, when his daughters were about ages 11 and 7, Robinson left his wife. Robinson and Andrew moved into a new house and had it blessed by Bishop Douglas Theuner, an event which they considered to be the formal recognition of their life together.

Andrew was legally joined to Robinson in June, 2008, in a private civil union ceremony, followed by a religious ceremony, both in St Paul's Church, Concord.

Robinson was elected bishop by the New Hampshire diocese on June 7, 2003.

Now, let's imagine this biography for a heterosexual and ask if anyone would think it sounded like Bishop material:

Robinson and Isabella's first daughter, Jamee, was born in 1977, followed by a second daughter, Ella, in 1981.

In November 1987, Robinson met his current partner, a woman 19 years younger named Marcia Andrew, while on vacation in St. Croix, when his daughters were about ages 10 and 6.

On 2 July 1988, when his daughters were about ages 11 and 7, Robinson left his wife. Robinson and Marcia moved into a new house and had it blessed by Bishop Douglas Theuner, an event which they considered to be the formal recognition of their life together.

Marcia was legally joined to Robinson in June, 2008, in a private wedding, followed by a religious ceremony, both in St Paul's Church, Concord.

The only possible ending to this less "diverse" version of the story is: Robinson was removed from all ministerial duties by the New Hampshire diocese on 2 July 1988.

Apparently the lessons on "tolerance" and "diversity" never sank in for me. I look at this man and see an unrepentant sinner who celebrates his evil actions and displays them as an example for others to follow. I see a man who abandoned his two young daughters to shack up with a younger partner - a grave action that goes to the heart of his values. I see a man I wouldn't trust to mow my lawn or to watch my children for a moment, since I would expect him to value my children even less than he values his own children. I see a man who I would welcome in my church because he desperately needs to find God, but who I would never allow to lead my church.

14 posted on 01/20/2009 6:09:11 AM PST by MathDoc (Don't blame me, I voted for Governor Palin and the wrinkly white-haired guy)
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To: MathDoc
"I look at this man and see an unrepentant sinner who celebrates his evil actions and displays them as an example for others to follow."

Cognitive dissonance plays a powerful motivating role in all of our lives, but Bishop Robinson appears to have raised it to a new height.

15 posted on 01/20/2009 6:23:05 AM PST by billorites
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To: MrB

> Matthew 10:32
> Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will
> I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
>
> I assume we can also assume the converse to be true:

Yes, the converse is true.

Mark 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.

Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father’s, and of the holy angels.


16 posted on 01/20/2009 6:40:06 AM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: billorites
I received an email yesterday stating that Robinson's microphone during the Sunday ceremony at the mall was off and only those within earshot heard him. Is there any truth to that?

If so, we might call the dead mike a divine act of God.

17 posted on 01/20/2009 7:13:01 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: dbehsman

I am a member of a Christ centered, Bible believing, growing Episcopal Church.


18 posted on 01/20/2009 7:17:14 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: trebb
My lawyer was an Episcopalian. He was saved because someone actually shared the gospel with him. That very day, he wrote a letter to the Episcopal hierarchy telling them that he was leaving their church, because their teachings were sending him and his family to Hell.
19 posted on 01/20/2009 7:19:41 AM PST by Coldwater Creek ("There is no insanity greater than electing a pathological Narcissist as president.")
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To: trebb

God can take any situation and make if for His Glory. Praise God that he did that with you! I pray that countless others did the same as you did and now have a relationship with the One and Only Living God!

Thank you for sharing your testimony. One by one, He calls us out of the darkness. God is soooo good!


20 posted on 01/20/2009 7:31:43 AM PST by Shelayne (Pray without ceasing.)
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To: Shelayne

Another ex-Episcopalian here, now happily in the arms of Mother Church. I would urge all Episcopalians who are disgusted by this man - and many others like him in the Episcopal Church - to just leave, and leave now. If Rome is not your thing then look elsewhere. The point is: just GO. It’s hard, but once you do it, you will wonder what took you so long, and your spiritual walk with Our Lord Jesus Christ will take on an all-new level of importance and meaning in your life.

Another point: most Episcopalians know at least one priest or bishop, and maybe more than one, who has been fired, and possibly even de-frocked forever, because of one incidence of a sexual affair with a woman resulting in a divorce from his wife. Gene not only got off scot-free, but is lionized in the media, made a bishop, and is asked to speak at huge public events of national importance such as the Inauguration of President Barack Obama. This blatant and in-your-face hypocrisy around this one issue, more than anything else, is what is fueling the massive exodus from the Episcopal Church


21 posted on 01/20/2009 7:49:13 AM PST by Cookie123
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To: Coldwater Creek

Something about calling your Savior a liar when He said He’s the only way...


22 posted on 01/20/2009 7:50:41 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: billorites

catholics and orthodox were excluded in this inauguration.

instead we have a pop culture televangilist and a antheist homosexual episcopal bishop...


23 posted on 01/20/2009 7:55:28 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: freema

CBS’s wonderful reporter just reported that Rick Warren came out of St. John’s to welcome Biden when, in fact, it was Rev. Dr. León, St. John’s rector.”

Which may lead credence to the fact that “reporters” have no idea who religious leaders are....they cannot ID anyone outside of Osama Bin Laden, it seems.


24 posted on 01/20/2009 8:02:41 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: billorites

Jesus is going to have the last laugh on these godless politicians and unsaved liberals.

There’s a place of torment called HELL which will take care of them for all eternity.


25 posted on 01/20/2009 8:52:38 AM PST by deannadurbin
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