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History will remember Bush well
Wall St Journal ^ | Marc Thiessen

Posted on 01/20/2009 9:26:58 AM PST by jbwbubba

In August 1951, with a little more than a year left to Harry S. Truman's presidency, historian Henry Steele Commager published an essay in Look magazine with this prediction: "By all normal standards, [Truman's] Administration has been one of almost . . . unparalleled success . . . the verdict of history will not be the same as the verdict of contemporary critics."

At the time, Truman's popularity hovered in the low 20s and most Americans considered his presidency a failure. Look's editors even published a note declaring "doubts" about "whether history will accord Harry S. Truman as generous a place as Professor Commager assigns him." History eventually sided with Commager.

Today, President George W. Bush leaves office with approval ratings only slightly higher than Truman's. And I will make this prediction: The verdict of history on the Bush presidency will not be the same as the verdict of contemporary critics.

While Mr. Bush made mistakes during his time in office, like Truman he racked up a record of unparalleled success that will be increasingly appreciated in the years to come.

Like Truman at the start of the Cold War, Mr. Bush set our nation's course at the start of a new and unprecedented war. And like Truman, he responded by laying out a clear doctrine to guide America through the conflict. Mr. Bush created the institutions necessary to prevail in this struggle. He created the Department of Homeland Security and a new director of national intelligence. He transformed the FBI and the Justice Department to fight terror. He established new military commands. And he transformed NATO from a defensive alliance into an expeditionary alliance that is now leading the fight in Afghanistan.

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1 posted on 01/20/2009 9:26:59 AM PST by jbwbubba
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To: jbwbubba

History will remember President Bush well.

And btw, it will comment on just how screwed up the mainstream media was during the past eight years.

That will be one of the ‘big things’ history discusses and writes papers about for the next couple of centuries.

That won’t be pretty, but it will be accurate, unlike say CBS or NBC news.


2 posted on 01/20/2009 9:31:26 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: jbwbubba

YAWN????


3 posted on 01/20/2009 9:35:13 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: jbwbubba

Depends on who writes the history.


4 posted on 01/20/2009 9:36:30 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: jbwbubba

Read Perle’s account of the Bush years and his role in them from Sunday morning. He makes it clear that Bush tolerated a level of insubordination that was inexcusable in any chief administrator much less the POTUS. There should have been blood in the halls of the State Dept., the CIA, and even the Pentagon if only half of what Perle had to say was true. Bush was plainly just too good of a man to do what the job required. Too bad because he was our last chance


5 posted on 01/20/2009 9:38:07 AM PST by wastoute
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To: Badeye

I hope and pray you are correct. Despite the missteps, I have loved President Bush and his absolute respect for the job and its trappings. His emotion and honesty have always been apparent toward all members of our military. He is a decent, honorable man who “re-elevated” the status of the office after the despicable previous eight years.


6 posted on 01/20/2009 9:38:44 AM PST by lildoc511 (USAF pilot vet / retired airline pilot and longtime lurker!)
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To: lildoc511

Yep.


7 posted on 01/20/2009 9:40:23 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
That will be one of the ‘big things’ history discusses and writes papers about for the next couple of centuries.

I have to think that today's media will eventually come to be seen in the same negative light as the "yellow journalists" that brought us the Spanish American war.

More than anything else, I think the long-term view of Bush's presidency will be shaped by its response to Islamism.

Mr. Bush faced the same sort of decisions that Neville Chamberlain did; and his decision could not have been more different from that of Mr. Chamberlain.

We need to be very clear about the fact that the Islamists are not going way anytime soon. They will continue in their violent ways, and they will probably even gain a few victories.

But in responding aggressively to Islamic terrorism, Bush set the tone for how the rest of the world will respond to terror; and he showed that it can be defeated. Unlike Nazi Germany, which was allowed to spread unchecked, the consequences of Mr. Bush's strategy has caused Islamist to become unwelcome even on their home ground. They don't have any unhindered breeding grounds.

Obama's naivete and arrogance can (and probably will) screw some things up pretty badly; but his mistakes will be judged against what Bush has done -- and will be corrected as best as possible by reverting to Bush's approach. Obama's successes (if any) will be judged in relation to how they diverged from or agreed with what Bush has put in place.

That's as good a working definition of "success" as one is likely to find in the real world.

8 posted on 01/20/2009 9:58:06 AM PST by r9etb
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To: r9etb

Excellent points, thanks for sharing them with me.


9 posted on 01/20/2009 10:04:06 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: vimto

>>Depends on who writes the history.<<

Thanks to the internet, that concept does not have the teeth it once had.

Most people though the Civil was was all about slavery. Most people now know better, thanks in great part to the ease with which people can get out the truth via the internet.

Without the internet, Kerry would most assuredly have gone down in history as a Vietnam war hero.

The times they are a changin’.


10 posted on 01/20/2009 10:08:18 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in the 1930's.)
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To: org.whodat
You are just insufferable, aren't you?

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
And dont sleep on these two, either.


11 posted on 01/20/2009 10:10:46 AM PST by rdb3 (Oh, my. Uhh... No, it's... What's.., What's the word?)
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To: jbwbubba

Bush’s biggest blunder was naively believing he could get Democrats to work with him honestly and constructively. By not eventually recognizing this impossibility, using his majority and bully pulpit to push through what was right while ignoring the howling from the left and letting the American people decide the value of it, he set the stage for today.

And it was made worse by his playing the “nice guy,” not smacking down the constant barrage of lies pushed by the left and parroted by the MSM about his administration. He allowed propaganda to become unchallenged fact. He should be familiar with the principle that silence equals assent.


12 posted on 01/20/2009 10:13:08 AM PST by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: rdb3
Thank You!!! Just wondering how many more time's this will be posted.

And Jimmua the second will still be Jimmua the second.

13 posted on 01/20/2009 10:18:08 AM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: Badeye
History will remember President Bush well.

I think not. The coming Hispanic majority in the country will certainly be a monument to his catastrophic presidency. Perhaps when their history of the 'reconquista' is written they will think of him as sort of their founding father. Perhaps their history will look kindly upon him.

Americans should have a very different view of him.

He has changed the demographic make up of this country forever. We now have a huge and growing population of people from the third world that are going out re-produce Americans and will be a huge voting block for the democratic party. As these people learn more and more that they can tax the rich (meaning the indigenous people who have wealth) they will do so. The government will be come even larger than it is now (hard to imagine). Bush ignored his constitutional duties to protect our border. In fact he encouraged the invasion (is that kind what traitors do?) He then sought to legalize millions of people who flooded into the country under his watch. That would have finished off the GOP. Well, actually that might be a good thing. Perhaps the GOP needs to die so we can have a conservative party again.

The debt our grandchildren will have from Jorge will also be an achievement that it will be hard to forget.

The nationalization of industry that Bush has pushed for is something that leftists in Latin American only dream of. Frankly, aside for Roberts and Alito (remember that he wanted Harriet Myers) there is very little that Bush did that was either conservative or successful. He could justly be called the most left-wing president in American history. He is expanded government power unlike anyone since his fellow catastrophic Texan Johnson.

I regret my votes for him more than most things. He and his fellow neoconservatives have destroyed what Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan built. May he go back to Texas and never be heard from again.

14 posted on 01/20/2009 11:19:12 AM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

(chuckle)

Once you realize there isn’t a living human being in this nation that can trace their family history to beginning ‘here’ you stop freaking yourself out about ‘immigration’ (Legal immigration).

Even so called ‘native Americans’ came over the Bering Sea ‘land bridge’.

Second thought rereading your post to me. Bush wasn’t a Conservative. Nor was his father, and we didn’t have a viable Conservative this time around, just a guy from Arizona that played one in a few commercials from August til November....(chuckle)

But to say George W Bush was ‘the most left-wing President in history’ is simply ridiculous, given the competition for that title among the 42 President’s the proceeded him.

On to you regretting your vote for him. Ah, sorry, Algore as POTUS on and immediately after 9/11? No thanks.

John ‘Marriage is a Career path’ Kerry? Again, No thanks.

You play the hand you are dealt. As we know, even a weak hand (Bush 43) can, and will ‘win out’.

And as McLame just demonstrated, a bad hand is just that, a bad hand, and thats why you throw your cards back in and wait for the next deal.


15 posted on 01/20/2009 11:26:17 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
Once you realize there isn’t a living human being in this nation that can trace their family history to beginning ‘here’ you stop freaking yourself out about ‘immigration’ (Legal immigration).

Before you go about chuckling you might want to take a look at what America was before 1965. I am not 'freaked out'. I am merely stating facts. Bush has encouraged waves of people from the Third World into this country. You also throw the usual caveat about 'legal immigration'. It is pretty obvious from my post that I was talking about illegal Immigration.

Keep chuckling, you have President Barak Hussein Obama because of Bush.

Bush wasn’t a Conservative. Nor was his father, and we didn’t have a viable Conservative this time around, just a guy from Arizona that played one in a few commercials from August til November....(chuckle)

You seem to be ignorant of what it is to be a conservative and what it is to be a liberal. I'm not interested in educating you but you might want to ponder what Ronald Reagan said about government not being the solution to problems, that Government is the problem.

But to say George W Bush was ‘the most left-wing President in history’ is simply ridiculous, given the competition for that title among the 42 President’s the proceeded him.

Really? Did Clinton nationalize significant portions of the economy? Did he take tax dollars to 'bailout' wealthy Wall Street Banks? Again, do you know what conservatism is?

On to you regretting your vote for him. Ah, sorry, Algore as POTUS on and immediately after 9/11? No thanks.

I am certainly no fan of Algore. I think he would not have been a good president. He might even have been as bad as Bush. None of us know how he would have acted after 9-11. I doubt he would have had much of a choice but to hit Afghanistan. I doubt he would have gone to Iraq though.

16 posted on 01/20/2009 11:38:07 AM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

I know the entire country traces its roots to another nations, other continents. I understand that was the ‘key’ to the last century being ‘America’s Time’.

I don’t fear immigration. Sorry. I’m a product of it.

As for daring to lecture me about what it is to be a Conservative....well,...thats very funny.

(chuckle)

Have a nice day.


17 posted on 01/20/2009 11:44:01 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
I know the entire country traces its roots to another nations, other continents. I understand that was the ‘key’ to the last century being ‘America’s Time’.

....So we should let 20 million third worlders in and get them on the public dole.

Sounds very Bushy....but not conservative.

I don’t fear immigration. Sorry. I’m a product of it.

I don't 'fear' immigration either. You are projecting there. I believe that the United States has a national identity that should be preserved. We are not a multi-cultural playground that has no borders, no common language or common traditions. Liberals believe in multi-culturalism. Oh, and so does Bush.

As for daring to lecture me about what it is to be a Conservative....well,...thats very funny.

You are supporting a President who advocates the nationalization of the economny, spending so much money that our grandchildren will be in debted, and open borders. None of that is conservative. You might want to think about that...chuckle....

Have a great day.

18 posted on 01/20/2009 11:53:40 AM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius
What a pile of ignorant crap.

The building of the Wall was under GW, the cranked-up ICE raids and E-Verify were implemented and the largest amount of illegal immigrant convictions and deportations were thanks to Bush.

Just because you're ignorant of the facts doesn't mean the truth isn't out there.

19 posted on 01/20/2009 11:54:10 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Alexius

I know the entire country traces its roots to another nations, other continents. I understand that was the ‘key’ to the last century being ‘America’s Time’.
....So we should let 20 million third worlders in and get them on the public dole.

If you are going to make things up, then attribute them to me, you will end up looking ridiculous by the time this exchange is over between us. Don’t say you were not warned.

Sounds very Bushy....but not conservative.

Bush wasn’t a Conservative. Get your hearing checked.

I don’t fear immigration. Sorry. I’m a product of it.

I don’t ‘fear’ immigration either. You are projecting there. I believe that the United States has a national identity that should be preserved. We are not a multi-cultural playground that has no borders, no common language or common traditions. Liberals believe in multi-culturalism. Oh, and so does Bush.

Again, Bush isn’t a Conservative. That said, we are all from ‘other places’ including YOU.

As for daring to lecture me about what it is to be a Conservative....well,...thats very funny.

You are supporting a President who advocates the nationalization of the economny, spending so much money that our grandchildren will be in debted, and open borders. None of that is conservative. You might want to think about that...chuckle....

Again, making things up then attributing them to me in a public forum will end up with you looking ridiculous. This is the second example in this post.

Have a great day.

I usually do.


20 posted on 01/20/2009 11:58:36 AM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Deb
Just because you're ignorant of the facts doesn't mean the truth isn't out there.

You must have slept through his work with Teddy Kennedy in persuit of legalizing 20 million illegals.

Here you go: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Immigration_Reform_Act_of_2007

21 posted on 01/20/2009 12:00:40 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Deb

All true, Deb.

There are still things left undone as it relates to border security, and the fact is W had to be dragged kicking and screaming to do what you site.

The poster is at the point where he/she is making things up, and attributing them to other posters as if they are ‘real’.

That demonstrates he/she knows the debate is already lost.


22 posted on 01/20/2009 12:00:40 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
But to say George W Bush was ‘the most left-wing President in history’ is simply ridiculous, given the competition for that title among the 42 President’s the proceeded him.

Relative to your assertion (above), I got to thinking...

I cast my first vote for President in 1964. From that point forward, there were eight Presidents (Obama makes nine). Reagan was clearly the best of the lot.

Who would be #2...???

23 posted on 01/20/2009 12:05:17 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: okie01

Hmmmm. Ya know...I don’t have an answer. Never really thought about it...but now that I have...I can’t come up with one.

There was Reagan...and everybody else.


24 posted on 01/20/2009 12:08:35 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
If you are going to make things up, then attribute them to me, you will end up looking ridiculous by the time this exchange is over between us. Don’t say you were not warned.

Ewwww ....says the guy who has attempted to paint me as 'scared' of immigration.

Bush wasn’t a Conservative. Get your hearing checked.

Good. We agree.

Again, Bush isn’t a Conservative. That said, we are all from ‘other places’ including YOU.

I have no problem with immigration. I have problems with illegal immigration. I have stated that before. If you would like I will state it again. I am against illegal immigration. There. Now, Bush has been catastrophic on illegal immigration. Had he gotten his way on his work with Teddy Kennedy he would have been even worse.

Have a great day.

You too. I wish you nothing but the best.

I plan to watch the news later and see the coverage of the inaguration of Barak Hussein Obama. I will ponder how when Bush came to Washington the GOP was the majority party and how he leaves it ruins. Obama would not have been possible if not for Bush.

25 posted on 01/20/2009 12:08:39 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius
I slept thru nothing. Did it happen? No.

Reagan actually accomplished amnesty for 20 million illegals and he is our hero. Bush's mistake was thinking that illegals and resident Latinos could become supporters of the Republican party like they did in Texas. That may be altruistic, but it's not worth all the vomitous screaming and blind hatred from conservatives.

26 posted on 01/20/2009 12:10:33 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Alexius

Bush had a lot of help from a disfunctional GOP majority in both the House and the Senate.

2006 tom DeLay ‘There’s nothing left to cut’ in a budget featuring 31,000 plus earmarks

2000 - 2007 John McCain, daily attacking Republicans and the President who was the leader of his party, for the benefit of Chrissy Matthews on MSNBC’s ‘Softball’.


27 posted on 01/20/2009 12:12:51 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Deb
I slept thru nothing. Did it happen? No.

Indeed it did not. Bush failed on that. Thank God. So did McCain and the other lefties in the GOP. You should think about the fact that Bush the 'conservative' worked so well with Teddy Kennedy.

Reagan actually accomplished amnesty for 20 million illegals and he is our hero.

He did nothing of the sort. He did legalize about 2 or 3 million illegals. You do know that 20 million is a lot higher than 2 million, right?

Bush's mistake was thinking that illegals and resident Latinos could become supporters of the Republican party like they did in Texas. That may be altruistic, but it's not worth all the vomitous screaming and blind hatred from conservatives.

Altruism had nothing to do with it.

28 posted on 01/20/2009 12:17:14 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Badeye
He didn't go kicking and screaming at all. He always said border security had to come first. Not a single thing he did to block illegals was reported because of the need to keep the base home.

I fault him for not having a Carville, Begala or Lanny Davis out there beating up the opposition everyday, but the Democrats who bring us the news would have done to them what they did to Bush, Rove, Cheney and every other Republican.

29 posted on 01/20/2009 12:18:09 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

Deb,

He didn’t get serious about border security until the Amnesty bill was defeated in a humiliating fashion. Thats just the plain truth, he dragged his feet on it for several YEARS after 9/11, in a false belief that by legislative efforts the GOP could entice hispanics into the party.

As we have seen it was an absymal failure. What I can’t get over is how they came to that strategy in the first place, it never had a chance of working.

JMHO.


30 posted on 01/20/2009 12:21:15 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
Bush had a lot of help from a disfunctional GOP majority in both the House and the Senate.

Indeed. The GOP forgot why they were the majority and decided to follow Bush down the neoconservative road. Had they stuck with what got them there they would still be the majority.

2006 tom DeLay ‘There’s nothing left to cut’ in a budget featuring 31,000 plus earmarks

Yep.

2000 - 2007 John McCain, daily attacking Republicans and the President who was the leader of his party, for the benefit of Chrissy Matthews on MSNBC’s ‘Softball’.

Yes. Which is why for the first time in my life I voted Libertarian and not Republican. I would have voted Constitutional Party but they were not on the ticket in California. McCain deserved to lose. It is sad that he was even given the nomination and was able to harm Palins chances in the future. She was the only thing good about the GOP ticket. Hopefully, she will lead the party out of the abyss.

31 posted on 01/20/2009 12:22:19 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

I agree with everything you posted except ‘harmed Palin’.

She’s benefitted greatly from the contrast between McCain’s moderate BS hiding behind ‘I’m a Conservative’ campaign commercials, which were simply ridiculous.

Think about it. Outside of Obama, who’s gotten the most ink in politics since the election was over?

Sarah Palin. And yep, its been vicious attacks...but I recall an old saying. The worst thing in the world is being ‘talked about’. The second worst thing in the world is ‘not being talked about’.

Daily, people are talking about Sarah Palin. We see it EVERYWHERE, not just here at FR.

Those that want to believe she won’t be a big factor in 2012 are making a big mistake.

Watch and see. She hit a chord with the American people that McCain and his band of idiot campaign managers completely and totally misused.


32 posted on 01/20/2009 12:27:20 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Alexius
Typical. Seeing everything thru the small-minded squint of the malcontent. Give the man no credit. Ascribe the worst motives to him instead of the best. Admit nothing...oh, wait...you had to admit St. Ronald gave millions of illegals amnesty!! Wooo whooo! And no it wasn't 20 million, but it was more than 2 million. I think it was 8 or 12 million. But I still love him (Reagan) and think that even when he worked with the Democrats he did what he thought best.

Go stew in you own putrid juices and bathe in your lies. Your BS had become tiresome.

33 posted on 01/20/2009 12:32:58 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Badeye
Sarah Palin. And yep, its been vicious attacks...but I recall an old saying. The worst thing in the world is being ‘talked about’. The second worst thing in the world is ‘not being talked about’.

Good point. I hope you are correct. She had 'it'. She connected to people and represented the American people much more than the other three. She was magnificent. I almost held my nose and voted for McCain because of her. Then McCain let her be attacked viciously and did close to nothing.

She hit a chord with the American people that McCain and his band of idiot campaign managers completely and totally misused.

I agree and I hope you are correct. It shows the character of the people around McCain that they went about leaking negative things about her after the election.

34 posted on 01/20/2009 12:33:39 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Badeye
No, it never had a chance of working, but it did work in Texas and a lot of Bush people credited the Hispanic vote with putting him in office because they came out in such huge numbers compared with other Republican candidates. That's what influenced his thinking.

Geez, you have to give him some credit for abandoning it when he saw the wave of support against it.

35 posted on 01/20/2009 12:41:11 PM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb
Typical. Seeing everything thru the small-minded squint of the malcontent.

Quit projecting. I am shocked that even after all that has happened that you could be so blind in your defense of Bush.

Give the man no credit.

He deserves no credit. He deserves scorn and derision. He has brought the conservative movement to its knees which paved the way for Barak Hussien Obama. He has thus harmed his country. If you want to defend the man who laid the ground for Socialism in this country you are welcome to.

Admit nothing...oh, wait...you had to admit St. Ronald gave millions of illegals amnesty!!

Admit nothing? I am pretty open about what I think and believe. Legalizing 2 million people is quite different than legalizing 20 million. Do you understand that? I think Reagans Amnesty was a mistake but it was not the catastrophe that Bushs would have been.

Go stew in you own putrid juices and bathe in your lies. Your BS had become tiresome.

:-D

BTW - Can you name what Bush did besides his Supreme Court Nominees that was 'conservative'? What did he do differently than Clinton would have done? What makes him worth your robust defense of him? What makes him worthy of Reagan?

36 posted on 01/20/2009 12:44:00 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

McCain’s people put her with Couric and Gibson.

Palin on her own hit Rush and Sean and Beck, and did very very well.

In short, her political instincts are miles beyond McCain’s, or the idiots McCain hired.


37 posted on 01/20/2009 12:44:21 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Deb; All

The amnesty bill under Reagan resulted in about 2.7 million people going through the process and adjusting their status.


38 posted on 01/20/2009 12:45:28 PM PST by tropical
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To: Alexius
He deserves no credit. He deserves scorn and derision. He has brought the conservative movement to its knees which paved the way for Barak Hussien Obama. He has thus harmed his country. If you want to defend the man who laid the ground for Socialism in this country you are welcome to.

I think in the end, it was more the GOP members of Congress that did that, they never had President Bush's back.

39 posted on 01/20/2009 12:46:05 PM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Badeye
In short, her political instincts are miles beyond McCain’s, or the idiots McCain hired.

Yes. McCain makes me wish that I was a conspiracy theorist. He seemed to throw the election. Sadly, I have to just swallow the fact that he was a bad candidate and his staff were stupid.

40 posted on 01/20/2009 12:47:34 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

‘He seemed to throw the election.’

I noted that at GOPACHY.

Last February.


41 posted on 01/20/2009 12:48:47 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: dfwgator
I think in the end, it was more the GOP members of Congress that did that, they never had President Bush's back.

I disagree. The problem was that they drank the kool-aid of 'compassionate conservatism' which translates to 'big government conservatism' which is neo-conservatism and is the kin of liberalism.

The House GOP showed some life by originally resisting the theft of middleclass wealth to give to Bankers. In the end they too showed that they were not conservatives but big-government liberals.

42 posted on 01/20/2009 12:52:48 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Badeye
I noted that at GOPACHY. Last February.

I think there might be something to it. He just didn't seem too upset about losing.

I think the GOP would be smart to vote en mass against all of Obamas agenda and then nominate a Palin/Sanford ticket.

43 posted on 01/20/2009 12:56:46 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

Depends on what the new President actually proposes in writing, as compared to what he was proposing while running for the job.

I think he’s more of a pragmatist than anyone suspects. We’ll see.


44 posted on 01/20/2009 1:00:04 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Badeye
I think he’s more of a pragmatist than anyone suspects.

I hope so. Maybe the knot in my stomach will go away.

Anyway, great talking to you. Have a wonderful day. I am off for Mexican food. ;)

45 posted on 01/20/2009 1:01:57 PM PST by Alexius (An absolutely new idea is one of the rarest things known to man. - St. Thomas More)
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To: Alexius

Enjoy!


46 posted on 01/20/2009 1:03:21 PM PST by Badeye (There are no 'great moments' in Moderate Political History. Only losses.)
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To: Alexius
George Bush: "I betrayed free market principles to save the free market."

Commander in VietNam: "We destroyed the village in order to save it.",/p>

47 posted on 01/20/2009 4:32:00 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Deb
No, it never had a chance of working, but it did work in Texas and a lot of Bush people credited the Hispanic vote with putting him in office because they came out in such huge numbers compared with other Republican candidates. That's what influenced his thinking.

You're right. I lived in Texas during that time and it did influence his thinking.

His being able to work with Dems in TX made him think he could do so on the national level.

Needless to say, he was mistaken.

He's out of the White House now and I wish him and all of us the best. I think we're gonna need it now.

Amazing << Hear this. Feel this, and tell me that this isn't music.
And dont sleep on these two, either.


48 posted on 01/20/2009 5:09:58 PM PST by rdb3 (Oh, my. Uhh... No, it's... What's.., What's the word?)
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To: Alexius

“Again, do you know what conservatism is..”

What do you consider the differences between conservatism and ‘neoconservatism’ in regards to foreign policy? Also, since you claim that you would have voted for the Constitutional Party, does this mean you supported Chuck Baldwin?


49 posted on 01/20/2009 6:45:49 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: rdb3

It really makes me sad that he gets no credit for his humanity and optimism in dealing with the other side. It was a misconception in Washington, but all he gets is contempt for trying. Thanks for your post.


50 posted on 01/21/2009 9:25:12 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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