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To: RonF
The initial reference was to Scouting and B-P, not the BSA. The fact that the BSA has strong roots in Christian organizations is not relevant to the question of whether Scouting was a Christian organization at it’s start in 1907, nor does it validate the statement of a representative of the Scottish Scouting organization.

As far as the BSA goes, it should be noted that while the YMCA had a big hand in it’s early development, it was also given a boost in it’s early history by the Mormon Church, a non-Christian organization. The BSA’s acceptance of non-Christians goes back to it’s very beginning.

You are aware the the King/Queen of England
is the head of the Church of England.

The fact that the highest award is known as Kings/Queens
Scout Award, this would imply that it is(was) a Christian Organization.

I have scouted with Mormons for over thirty years.

Most Mormons would strongly disagree with you
as they believe that they are Christians.


47 posted on 01/21/2009 11:47:57 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
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To: XeniaSt

Given that I’m an Episcopalian I’m quite aware of the role of the British Sovereign in the Church. But the Sovereign is at least the titular head of a number of institutions there. That does not define Scouting’s identity as being attached to any of them.

I’m aware that most Mormons consider themselves Christians. However, if you research the matter you’ll find that no Christian denomination considers them Christian. There are a number of doctrinal differences between the LDS and Christianity that are quite central to both. It reaches the point that while a convert from one Christian denomination is considered by their new denomination to have been validly baptized and to be considered as having been a Christian prior to conversion. However, if a Mormon converts to a Christian denomination their baptism is not considered valid, they are not considered to have been Christian prior to conversion and they have to be baptized.

I do not know whether or not you are a Christian. If you are, I propose that you contact your national office (or look on their website) and see what they have to say on the matter.


51 posted on 01/22/2009 12:18:41 PM PST by RonF
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