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H. R. 15: To provide a program of national health insurance...
Thomas ^ | 1/6/2009 | John Dingell

Posted on 01/21/2009 3:16:07 AM PST by markomalley

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

January 6, 2009


A BILL

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title; table of contents.

(a) Short Title.—This Act may be cited as the “National Health Insurance Act”.

(Excerpt) Read more at thomas.loc.gov ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhohealthcare; dingell; healthinsurance; hr15; socializedmedicine; valueaddedtax
I haven't seen too much written on this bill -- saw a lot more on the CHIP bill.

But you ought to take a look through it. Not only does it introduce national health insurance, it introduces a federal VAT to pay for it.

If this has been posted before, my apologies.

1 posted on 01/21/2009 3:16:08 AM PST by markomalley
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To: SunkenCiv; neverdem
Ruh-roh. Day one!
2 posted on 01/21/2009 3:30:06 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: markomalley

This is the issue we must begin organizing now to defeat. It will be coming to vote this 2 year term, for certain. They are not going to waste this majority status without federalizing health care. Defeating them on this one issue is more important than any other because once it starts, we can never get rid of the new entitlement.


3 posted on 01/21/2009 3:54:56 AM PST by ilgipper
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To: markomalley
There is no way to defeat the Democrats at this point. They're going to do whatever they want, and we won't be able to stop them, no matter how much we protest.

If you have a complex or expensive medical procedure that you need done, or if you're over 50 and need something done, and can afford it, get it done NOW. By the time Democrats are through with our health system, they'll be euthanizing everyone over 60 to keep health care costs down.

4 posted on 01/21/2009 4:03:53 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Fairness Doctrine isn't about "Fairness" - it's about Doctrine.)
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To: markomalley

Well, at least they aren’t being sneaky about it. The coming socialism will arrive at the head of the parade, drums sounding and trumpets blaring. And, it will be led by the Anointed One, held high on the arms of the sheeple.

I fear for the future of this grand experiment. About to be swept from the world stage is the last, best hope of man; an example of freedom such as the world has never known. And, it will have been destroyed from within, by those elected to its protection, in the wrongly named spirit of ‘humanity’.

Time to refresh the tree of Liberty, IMO.


5 posted on 01/21/2009 4:23:39 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: Hardastarboard

“By the time Democrats are through with our health system, they’ll be euthanizing everyone over 60 to keep health care costs down.”

With the food supply either poisoned or shrinking, I would expect that we will see a new food pretty soon. It will be nutritious, compact and plentiful.

Soylent Green is People!!!!!


6 posted on 01/21/2009 4:26:20 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: markomalley

Congress is going to do for our health insurance what it did for home mortgages. Destroy it.


7 posted on 01/21/2009 4:28:15 AM PST by 6SJ7 (Atlas Shrugged Mode: ON)
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To: markomalley

Watch for the next lib action after “national health insurance”.

It’ll be measures to prevent anyone using their own $$ to get better care.

After all, all animals are equal, but pigs (e.g. congress) will be more equal since they’ll still have their health care system.


8 posted on 01/21/2009 5:01:35 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote
Watch for the next lib action after “national health insurance”. It’ll be measures to prevent anyone using their own $$ to get better care. After all, all animals are equal, but pigs (e.g. congress) will be more equal since they’ll still have their health care system.

Then THAT is the first step. Insisting that everyone has the same system, including Congress. National means all. They shouldn't get preferential treatment on the taxpayers dime.

9 posted on 01/21/2009 5:06:36 AM PST by Netizen
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To: Hardastarboard

If they are euthanizing everyone over 60, I suggest they start with Congress.


10 posted on 01/21/2009 6:26:15 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: ilgipper

Good luck with that one...the only thing that stood between us an national health care was good paying jobs with benefits...thanks to the free trade warriors, those jobs are gone. The ironic part is conservatives embraced this with vigor and ultimately destroyed conservatism...no accident that the Mid West went for Obama.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 6:52:26 AM PST by bronxboy
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To: Hardastarboard
...they'll be euthanizing everyone over 60...

I, for one, will not go quietly into that night....and if that ever be the case, suggest no one else does either.

12 posted on 01/21/2009 8:35:03 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: markomalley
The VAT will further drive businesses away and drive down demand, just what we need during a deflationary recession.

This law may be challenged to Scotus, but it will be found constitutional. Piss be upon you black robed tyrants in advance.

13 posted on 01/21/2009 10:05:13 AM PST by Jacquerie (Islam is a barbaric political and social system in religious drag.)
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To: grey_whiskers; AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; ...

Thanks grey_whiskers.


14 posted on 01/21/2009 5:02:28 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: long hard slogger; FormerACLUmember; Harrius Magnus; hocndoc; parousia; Hydroshock; skippermd; ...
Socialized Medicine aka Universal Health Care PING LIST

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15 posted on 01/22/2009 5:04:46 PM PST by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: socialismisinsidious
(a) Findings.—The Congress finds that—

(1) the health of the Nation’s people is the foundation of our Nation’s strength, productivity, and wealth;

No, it's not.

16 posted on 01/22/2009 5:15:44 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: markomalley; socialismisinsidious
There it is:

"Subchapter A—Imposition of Tax
"SEC. 3901. Imposition of tax.
"(a) General Rule.—A tax is hereby imposed on each taxable transaction.
"(b) Amount of Tax.—Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, the amount of the tax shall be 5 percent of the taxable amount.
"Subchapter B—Taxable Transaction
"Sec. 3903. Taxable transaction.
"Sec. 3904. Commercial-type transaction.
"Sec. 3905. Taxable person.
"Sec. 3906. Transactions in the United States.
"Sec. 3907. Rules relating to other terms used in section 3903.
"SEC. 3903. Taxable transaction.
"For purposes of this chapter, the term ‘taxable transaction’ means—
"(1) the sale of property in the United States
"(2) the performance of services in the United States, and
"(3) the importing of property into the United States, by a taxable person in a commercial-type transaction.

17 posted on 01/22/2009 5:28:02 PM PST by HoosierHawk
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To: markomalley; socialismisinsidious; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; bamahead
You ought to take a good look at it.

I don't have to. I know that it's a monstrosity that is based upon false premises ("findings"). The fact is that any American (or even any illegal alien) will not be denied health care in this country bcause of a lack of insurance. Lack of insurance does not imply lack of health care (nor does lack of health care imply lack of insurance).

And this Dingell (who is introducing it) is an old Arab-kissing geezer that's been around forever.

Let's let the citizens of our country - or their families and friends, if they are incapacitated - have control of their physical selves and the way their anatomy and/or physiology is aligned or revamped. That's been our way of life since the founding, and there's no way that government bureaucrats can change that without another civil war.

18 posted on 01/22/2009 5:46:56 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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