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Is dissent still patriotic?
Denver Post ^ | 21 jan 09 | David Harsanyi

Posted on 01/21/2009 7:47:20 AM PST by rellimpank

Do all Americans truly have a yearning to fundamentally "remake" our nation? There must be a subversive minority out there that still believes the United States — even with its imperfections and sporadic recessions — is, in context, still a wildly prosperous and free country worth preserving.

Some of you must still believe that politicians are meant to serve rather than be worshiped. And there must be someone out there who considers partisanship a healthy, organic reflection of our differences rather than something to be surrendered in the name of so- called unity — which is, after all, untenable, subjective and utterly counterproductive.

How about those who praised dissent for the past eight years?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama

1 posted on 01/21/2009 7:47:21 AM PST by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

Dissent is patriotic?- That’s so 2004. Now it’s serve the 0.


2 posted on 01/21/2009 7:50:40 AM PST by Carl LaFong (Building Code Under Fire)
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To: rellimpank
How about those who praised dissent for the past eight years?

They are now Generals in the Obama Dissent Suppression Korps.

3 posted on 01/21/2009 7:51:19 AM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: rellimpank

No, is there a RINO in office?


4 posted on 01/21/2009 7:52:09 AM PST by null and void (KENYAN GO HOME!)
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To: Carl LaFong
yah, sure ... I'll dissent from all of Zero's marxist, gun-grabbing, baby-killing, terrorist-coddling, military-hating, eco-freak, control-freak, nanny-state garbage.

It's the Patriotic thing to do.

5 posted on 01/21/2009 7:52:39 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: rellimpank
Boy, this last point is dead-on. Is dissent still permitted?

Honestly, I don't know. I really think the One is trying to land a knock-out punch to conservatism and he may be able to. His rhetoric is EXTREMELY provocative but subtle and he as a very willing press one there knees in front of him in worship.

Big trouble a commin!

6 posted on 01/21/2009 7:53:03 AM PST by mek1959
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To: rellimpank

Dissent provides the proper checks and balances, thats what that old crone Pelosi has piped out her pie hole for 8 years.

Remember it is not dissent, it is merely checks and balances.


7 posted on 01/21/2009 7:54:44 AM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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To: rellimpank

Ouch! Bookmarked for continued reference.


8 posted on 01/21/2009 7:55:04 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rellimpank

Dissent? I am for DISSOLUTION of this joke of a Union... SECCESSION!


9 posted on 01/21/2009 7:55:22 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: rellimpank
Well, we now know from the Secretary of Treasury confirmation hearings that Biden's paying taxes as a test of patriotism no longer applies.
10 posted on 01/21/2009 7:55:38 AM PST by KarlInOhio (On 9/11 Israel mourned with us while the Palestinians danced in the streets. Who should we support?)
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To: rellimpank

We must be adamant that right now dissent is a requirement.

Its time we pay our dues and enforce what our forefathers wrote out in the Constitution.

And frankly I’m ready for some aggressive negotiations.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 7:55:49 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: rellimpank

I can’t tell you how patriotic I’m feeling right now.


12 posted on 01/21/2009 7:56:11 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Somewhere In Kenya, A Village Is Missing It's Idiot)
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To: TCH

You and me both.


13 posted on 01/21/2009 7:59:14 AM PST by mrsmel (Dissent is patriotic!)
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To: TCH

I’m getting close to that same point. I can’t believe it, this is surreal.


14 posted on 01/21/2009 7:59:24 AM PST by mek1959
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To: rellimpank

From one of the comments about the article.....

“He’s not interested in equal opportunity, he’s interested in equality of outcome.”

I will do my patriotic duty, as guaranteed by the 1st Amendment, to speak out against tyranny.
NEVER LOWER YOUR EXPECTATIONS TO ACCOMODATE ANYONE YOU DISAGREE WITH!


15 posted on 01/21/2009 7:59:56 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (Since when is paying more, but getting less, considered Patriotic?)
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To: rellimpank


16 posted on 01/21/2009 8:00:48 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Keynes is dead. Keynesianism is dead.)
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To: rellimpank

Excellent point!

I will throw that in the face of my co-workers, For the next 4 years! thank you.


17 posted on 01/21/2009 8:01:24 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: rellimpank

Excellent point!

I will throw that in the face of my co-workers, For the next 4 years! thank you.


18 posted on 01/21/2009 8:01:31 AM PST by truemiester ((If the U.S. should fail, a veil of darkness will come over the Earth for a thousand years))
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To: rellimpank
Reading down in the comments there's a wonderful quote:

It only stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting the sacrificial offerings.

Where there's service, there is someone being served.

The man who speaks to you of sacrifice is speaking of slaves and masters, and intends to be the master.

- Ayn Rand 1905-1982 -

19 posted on 01/21/2009 8:01:40 AM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: rellimpank

You’ll have to excuse me as I’ll not be participating in the next 4 years. That is, unless the 2nd amendment is overturned. Then I’ll be participating like hell!


20 posted on 01/21/2009 8:02:38 AM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: rellimpank

Liberals, are like the character Strelnikov in Dr. Zhivago. When they are out of power, they cry about injustice. But once they gain power, they turn into executioners.


21 posted on 01/21/2009 8:02:49 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: rellimpank
Some of you must still believe that politicians are meant to serve rather than be worshiped.

Few fit into that category these days, alas. Politician worship is a widespread disease here in America. (Democrats worshipping Democrat pols, and Republicans worshipping Republican pols). They're viewed as our superiors at the very least, and often our overlords.

Politicians are our employees -- nothing more, nothing less.

22 posted on 01/21/2009 8:03:08 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Eye of Unk

Archibald Macleish:
The dissenter is every human being at those moments of his life when he resigns momentarily from the herd and thinks for himself.

Barbara Ehrenreich:
No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.

David Ogilvy:
Talent ... is most likely to be found among non-conformists, dissenters, and rebels.

Edward R. Murrow:
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it.

Edward R. Murrow:
No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. (about Senator Joseph McCarthy’s accusations about Communism in the American government)

Eleanor Holmes Norton:
The only way to make sure people you agree with can speak is to support the rights of people you don’t agree with.

Elie Wiesel:
It may well be that our means are fairly limited and our possibilities restricted when it comes to applying pressure on our government. But is this a reason to do nothing? Despair is nor an answer. Neither is resignation. Resignation only leads to indifference, which is not merely a sin but a punishment

Eric Hoffer:
The beginning of thought is in disagreement — not only with others but also with ourselves.

Evelyn Beatrice Hall:
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (paraphrasing Voltaire)

Florynce Kennedy:
You’ve got to rattle your cage door. You’ve got to let them know that you’re in there, and that you want out. Make noise. Cause trouble. You may not win right away, but you’ll sure have a lot more fun.

George Orwell:
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Harry S Truman:
Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear.

J. William Fulbright:
In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith.

James Luther Adams:
Nothing is complete and thus nothing is exempt from criticism.

John F. Kennedy:
Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed — and no republic can survive

John Lewis:
We live in a country where we’re supposed to have freedom of the press and religious freedom, but I think to some degree, there’s a sense of fear in America today, that if you say the wrong thing, what some people will consider what is wrong, if you step out of line, if you dissent, whether you be an entertainer, that somehow and some way this government or the forces to be will come down on you.

Martin Luther King Jr.:
Human salvation lies in the hands of the creatively maladjusted.

Mohandas K. Gandhi:
Non-cooperation is a measure of discipline and sacrifice, and it demands respect for the opposite views.

Vaclav Havel:
You do not become a “dissident” just because you decide one day to take up this most unusual career. You are thrown into it by your personal sense of responsibility, combined with a complex set of external circumstances. You are cast out of the existing structures and placed in a position of conflict with them. It begins as an attempt to do your work well, and ends with being branded an enemy of society.

William O. Douglas:
Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us.

http://www.wisdomquotes.com/cat_dissent.html

(Any more questions?)


23 posted on 01/21/2009 8:03:41 AM PST by shoutingandpointing (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: rellimpank
I'm wondering how a flag-burning in front of the Whitehouse would go over right now with the media.

Something tells me it is no longer in vogue.
24 posted on 01/21/2009 8:03:58 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: rellimpank

I recall what happened during a nationwide air traffic controller strike in the 80’s, combine that with the Postal Service and a few other federal jobs and it would send a clear message.

Or just a simple sick-out day.

Every week until justice is served.


25 posted on 01/21/2009 8:04:55 AM PST by Eye of Unk (How strangely will the Tools of a Tyrant pervert the plain Meaning of Words! SA)
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To: rellimpank

When the alternative is to join the cultists, emphatically YES! Dissent is patriotic.


26 posted on 01/21/2009 8:05:04 AM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: rellimpank
Is dissent still patriotic?

No! Anyone who dares to criticize Our Glorious Leader is a traitor and should be sent to a re-education camp immediately.

27 posted on 01/21/2009 8:05:51 AM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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To: rellimpank
Dissent is patriotic when PATRIOTS dissent! How many of these scumbags that backstabbed our troops for years qualify? Including BO.

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28 posted on 01/21/2009 8:08:28 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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To: shoutingandpointing
George Orwell: In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

I love that. It may go on my bumper along with the "0 No" sticker.

29 posted on 01/21/2009 8:10:04 AM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: rellimpank

BTTT


30 posted on 01/21/2009 8:19:20 AM PST by Joiseydude (Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,)
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To: mollynme

;)

(changing tagline)

Yep. That’s better.


31 posted on 01/21/2009 8:34:37 AM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: randog
WWJGD?

"What Would John Galt Do?"

Not the Scottish novelist, the other one. ;)

(PALIN & RAND 2012)

32 posted on 01/21/2009 8:41:09 AM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: rellimpank

Is there a link (audio or YouTube) of Hillary’s rant about dissent and patriotism? This would be her screaming rant that Rush occasionally plays.


33 posted on 01/21/2009 8:41:58 AM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: rellimpank

Great article ... sums up my feelings very well.


34 posted on 01/21/2009 8:42:20 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: Carl LaFong

Who can possibly dissent now- won’t all of our troubles be solved in a matter of days?


35 posted on 01/21/2009 8:47:21 AM PST by tedrich
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To: shoutingandpointing

Great list. Thanks for sharing. Now, it seems that many of us here on FR need to take these things to heart and be prepared to stand up for our rights and to stand against their erosion. We must come together to be perceived as a serious movement. A serious force to be reckoned with. People need to be made to THINK. Where is this country going? Where do we want it to go? Vote. Speak. Argue. If you know people who are whining about their gun rights being taken away and yet they voted for Obama or any other liberal gun grabber, CALL them on it. Walk the talk. Because, Dissent IS patriotic...


36 posted on 01/21/2009 8:50:58 AM PST by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: TCH

Secession is reasonable.

The Federal Government has, and will continue to abuse it’s power over vis-a-vis the states.

The income tax should have been the last straw.


37 posted on 01/21/2009 8:59:34 AM PST by Retired Greyhound
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To: Retired Greyhound

How does one officially begin the legal process of seccession? Texas has a provision in its State Constitution.

Since most of the State Legislatures are populated by cronies of the federal power brokers, then how do the people force the issue upon these poltroons?

BTW: This time, Nebraska will not be the waterboy of the Federalists.


38 posted on 01/21/2009 9:20:20 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: Oldpuppymax
...Then I’ll be participating like hell!

"...Then I’ll be participating like and giving hell!" Fixed it for you.

39 posted on 01/21/2009 9:24:09 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: TCH

There are a lot of people that believe that our government has gotten completely out of control. There are a lot of those same people that will fight to the death to perserve the union. I will not give up my country to marxism by succession or any other method.


40 posted on 01/21/2009 9:52:35 AM PST by Durus (The People have abdicated our duties and anxiously hopes for just two things, "Bread and Circuses")
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To: rellimpank

Day One of the failed Obama administration. I don’t have a draft card anymore and I never did own a bra, so I’m torching my AARP card and a carton of Depends. It’s the best I can do.


41 posted on 01/21/2009 10:06:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Eye of Unk

“We must be adamant that right now dissent is a requirement.”

SILENCE IS CONSENT.


42 posted on 01/21/2009 10:16:47 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: AuntB
I think that dissent just for dissents sake is wrong. That's the problem I have with all the “dissenting” the libs do. If you're going to disagree with a policy or whatever then at least have another solution.
43 posted on 01/21/2009 10:28:48 AM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: Durus

“I will not give up my country to marxism by succession or any other method.”

Too late, you already have; because you hold fast to fighting on the enemy’s terms, which is why you have lost the battle to save your precious “union.” Traitors to the Republic killed us through incrimentalism... through indoctrination by media and GOVERNMENT MANDATED schooling. Just a Nikita Khrushchev stated the goal, so it has been effected. Those having your mindset, stood by and watched it happen without lifting a finger. Your response is that of a wimper, not a roar.


44 posted on 01/21/2009 10:30:12 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: shoutingandpointing

1. Barbara Ehrenreich:
“No matter that patriotism is too often the refuge of scoundrels. Dissent, rebellion, and all-around hell-raising remain the true duty of patriots.”

In this age “rebellion and all-around hell raising” are but the tools of the anarchy.

2. David Ogilvy:
“Talent ... is most likely to be found among non-conformists, dissenters, and rebels.”

What talent? … Have you looked at what passes for “art,” “music,” and “writing” these days? The art of “non-conformists… and rebels” is hardly worth a bucket of spit.

3. Edward R. Murrow:
“No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices. (about Senator Joseph McCarthy’s accusations about Communism in the American government)”

Senator Joseph McCarthy’s accusations about Communism in the American government were spot on accurate… and remain so.

4. Eric Hoffer:
“The beginning of thought is in disagreement — not only with others but also with ourselves.”

The lost art of controversy… and appreciation (to give a true rendering of a thing’s merits)

5. Evelyn Beatrice Hall:
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. (paraphrasing Voltaire)”

Words have meaning, and ideas have consequences. Bad thinking leads to bad policies. Abortion, euthanasia, and homosexual marriage all started as ideas… then opinion… then acts. Some things have no moral defense, and ought not to be tolerated to show their face in civilization, EVER! Voltaire was a maniacal demon, and the consummation of his ideas was the Reign of Terror that marked the years 1789 – 1793… a bloodbath issued straight from Hell itself.

6. George Orwell:
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”

Better to state that in a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a COUNTER-revolutionary act. Satan is the father of deceit, and the first Revolutionary.

7. J. William Fulbright:
“In a democracy, dissent is an act of faith.”

We are not a “democracy” but a representative republic. Democracy is the spawning ground of tyranny.

8. James Luther Adams:
“Nothing is complete and thus nothing is exempt from criticism.”

Criticism is not equal to controversy and appreciation. Denunciation without “enunciation” is of no aide to reason.

9. John F. Kennedy:
“Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country can succeed — and no republic can survive.”

Sad that JFK knew we are a republic… when today most are oblivious to the distinction.

10. John Lewis:
“We live in a country where we’re supposed to have freedom of the press and religious freedom, but I think to some degree, there’s a sense of fear in America today, that if you say the wrong thing, what some people will consider what is wrong, if you step out of line, if you dissent, whether you be an entertainer, that somehow and some way this government or the forces to be will come down on you.”

Religious Freedom is anti-religion, and anti-Christ. The State separated from God exists in a “state” of tyranny without limits. God is the author of the State and the grantor of power. All authority to govern comes from God. The people may select the man, but it is God who gives the authority to govern … and the wisdom to govern justly. To separate the Church and the State is to separate objective truth from justice, to eliminate restraint from power, and thus to beget tyranny.

11. William O. Douglas:
“Restriction of free thought and free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us.”

See response to quote number 5. Free speech leads to anarchy if not subjected to morality. Perhaps the best response is the following:

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites,—in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity,—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption,—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.” EDMUND BURKE, ‘Letter to a Member of the National Assembly’ 1791. - The Works of the Right Honorable Edmund Burke, vol. 4, pp. 51–52 (1899)


45 posted on 01/21/2009 10:30:57 AM PST by TCH (Another redneck clinging to guns and religion)
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To: saleman

Agreed.


46 posted on 01/21/2009 10:31:34 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925)
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To: Honor above all
"Great list. Thanks for sharing. Now, it seems that many of us here on FR need to take these things to heart and be prepared to stand up for our rights and to stand against their erosion. We must come together to be perceived as a serious movement. A serious force to be reckoned with. People need to be made to THINK. Where is this country going? Where do we want it to go? Vote. Speak. Argue. If you know people who are whining about their gun rights being taken away and yet they voted for Obama or any other liberal gun grabber, CALL them on it. Walk the talk. Because, Dissent IS patriotic..."

--

There is a time for talk and time to walk.

Drawing invisible lines in the sands of the ether does not work. Minds-to-like-minds by fingertip convinces no one watching from the sidelines of anything. Anyone who has raised a kid can tell you that simply calling them on their unacceptable behavior only serves to prove to them that they can do what they desire without ramifications beyond a tongue lashing. Without consequences, forgiveness becomes approval. Remember Colin Powell borrowing from Admiral Hopper: “It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.” Think back to when he so coyly uttered those words to the press and what he has done since. This is the core mindset and values system of the left.

The 2A? That is easy enough. “If you do not want a gun I will certainly support your right to not to have one, the same as I will support—I'll DEFEND—your right to/not-to subscribe to the Bugtussel Gazette, eat goose eggs and anchovies with chocolate syrup, or attend the Church of the Flaming Plastic Teacup. As for the gun I choose to keep: “MOLON LABE.”

Our tragic flaw as Christian Conservatives is we play fair with our sworn enemies, the ones who vow time and again not to oppose but to destroy us for our ideals. The time has come to accept the fact that our sense of fair play is what got us into this hole and continuing to play fair will not get us out of it. “If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.” If you are fighting to win, absolutely. The left has known, embraced, and practiced this philosophy forever. If we learn nothing else from the "new" left we must grasp what happens when individuals who come together in parity to form a group and further a greater cause allow fringe-element extremists to ascend to power unchecked.

A coup has taken place within the Democratic Party and by extension the Country. The party moderates are scared of their leadership, and with good reason. It shows. This only emboldens the empowered elitists at the top. They live their lives according to the rule that anything that does not stop them approves of them. They speak glowingly and often of compromise, but their actions are all-or-nothing rule by extremes. The left has closed its collective eyes and bowed their heads before a man and his myopic vision of utopia; in so doing they have forfeited their individualism and their sight. They are the willing blind and will be led where they would not otherwise go. Pray for them. Learn from their example. It was not that long ago that their party stood where we are now. Act accordingly.

If the center--the core and heart of society's fabric--does not hold together and pull its edges inward, those edges fray. The fringe produces extremists and radicals. Fringe radicalicalized ideologues are a civil society's undoing, and charismatic extremist radical ideologues are something far worse. Beware such individuals do not become disenfranchised--be they left, right, or otherwise. World Wars, genocide, ethnic cleansing, suicide cults, and terrorists are born of such evil.

So what are we to do? The old saw goes, “If you want to convince me of anything you have to stop talking and do something tangible.” The opposition is on the march. The time has come to stand up and be counted, shoulder to shoulder, unwavering in purpose and resolve, and walk not away from but headlong into the fight they have brought to us.

Suggestions?

47 posted on 01/21/2009 11:09:18 AM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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To: shoutingandpointing

Suggestions? I would ask the same of you. At this time it is still appropriate to resist and fight the tide in a peaceful, determined, legal manner. The minute people begin talking about armed resistance, the entire game changes, permanently and without the luxury of retraction. I suggest that many who are sitting in their arm chairs complaining are doing nothing more than that. Most don’t even take the time to join the NRA or GOA or any other group that is standing and assembling to defend our rights. If we did nothing more than coordinate and show up it would be enough to show the seriousness of our position. What would you suggest?


48 posted on 01/23/2009 10:09:32 AM PST by Honor above all (I'm only here to help.)
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To: Honor above all
Well stated.

EVERY time I contact my elected representatives I do so in triplicate: I email; I call; I write a letter and send it USPS. I make a point of stopping by the local office when I am in the vicinity—rarely, but it happens— just to say “Hello.”
I make a genuine effort to keep abreast of what is being voted on, what is in committee and upcoming on the agenda

Most of all, I do NOT contact my elected representatives only when I am displeased or concerned. I make a special point of letting them know when they “get it right.” Far too many citizens couldn't tell you who their Senators and Congressmen were if their very lives depended on it. Fewer still take the time to contact them by any means and of those who do it is most often to complain. PLEASE let them know when you approve of what they are doing.

VOTE. ALWAYS. No matter how local the election or issue, VOTE. That school board member, that city councilman, that dog catcher is more often than not the same person you see daily on the street or sing with in the church choir. Nothing you vote for impacts your daily life as acutely as the selections on the local ballot.

CAMPAIGN FOR the issues and candidates you believe in. Join and support those organizations and groups that fight for and further your principles, beliefs, and champion your causes, whatever they may be. Put that “I am the NRA and I VOTE” sticker on the back window next to the “NRA LIFE MEMBER” sticker. Remember that American Flag sticker Archie Bunker popularized? Its time has come again. It is OK to “quietly speak up.”

It is easy to point out what's wrong with the other side's idea or candidate. Fine. And your alternative is what? Without a viable and supportable argument you have no case. Any dope will choose the “something” option over the “nothing” option every time. Educate yourself. Know all sides—yes I said ALL—sides of the issues and arguments. You cannot expect to turn the other side's argument against itself if you do not have a complete understanding of that argument. Do your homework.

As for the ridiculous notion of “armed resistance,” NOTHING will cement the argument against your Second Amendment Right to own and keep a firearm more quickly and surely than talk of taking up arms against your duly elected, sworn, Constitutional and Legitimate Government. To those on the fringes or otherwise who advocate or hint at doing such, KNOCK IT OFF. We use the ballot box, not the bullet, to change, shape and, most importantly of all, preserve our government and way of life. I suggest that anyone who cannot understand that give serious consideration to spending some quality time outside the bunker and breathing some air that is not filled with CLP fumes.

You ask, “What would [I] suggest?” Fair enough. Pick one issue, a time and a place and show up. Repeat the process as necessary until each issue has had its day. No loud demonstrations, no chanting and ranting, no speeches even. Pick an issue; declare a “meeting of the hearts and minds”; show up and be counted; go home. Keep it simple and to the point so the message does not get lost in the details. Do not seek to make a scene or a spectacle; make a point. And leave it at that.

“Coordinate and show up.” There's your answer. Those two things more than anything else are what got the current POTUS elected. “Strength in numbers” is the kind of show of force that works. His people were and remain technology savvy, organized, coordinated, and goal oriented. IT IS A STRATEGY THAT WORKS. So what's our excuse?

49 posted on 01/23/2009 11:55:23 AM PST by shoutingandpointing ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell)
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