Posted on 01/21/2009 9:09:09 AM PST by AuntB
Law enforcement officers from communities unaffected by gangs until the 1980s or early 1990s often find themselves scrambling to obtain training relevant to what are called hybrid youth gangs in the 21st century. These include gangs with large memberships of illegal aliens from Mexico (Mexican Mafia), El Salvador (MS-13), the Dominican Republic, and others.
When gang-related training first became widely available in the early 1990s, it often emphasized historical information, such as the formation of the Los Angeles Crips and Bloods in the late 1960s or the legacy of Chicago-based gangs (the Black Gangster Disciples, Latin Kings, and Vice Lords).
As law enforcement officers learned about the origins of these influential gangs, they sometimes attempted to apply this outdated information in their efforts to deal with illegal immigrant gangs in their jurisdictions.
The assumption that new gangs share the characteristics of older gangs can impede law enforcement’s attempts to identify and effectively counter local street gangs, and actions based on this assumption often elicit inappropriate responses from the community as a whole. Citizens may react negatively to law enforcement efforts when they sense that gang suppression actions are geared to a more serious gang problem than local gangs appear to present.
Because of uncertainty in reporting on problem groups such as "cliques," "crews," "posses," and other nontraditional collectives that may be immigrant gangs, some police department staff spend an inordinate amount of time trying to precisely categorize local groups according to definitions of traditional gangs.
When training law enforcement groups on investigative issues surrounding drug trafficking or street gangs, instructors must resist the tendency to connect gangs in different cities just because the gangs share a common name. If the groups engage in ongoing criminal activity and alarm community members, law enforcement officers should focus on the criminal activity, regardless of the ideological beliefs or identifiers (i.e., name, symbols, and group colors) of the suspects. This practical approach would circumvent the frustration that results from trying to pigeonhole hybrid gangs into narrow categories and would avoid giving undue attention to gangs that want to be recognized as nationwide crime syndicates.
The expanded presence of gangs is often blamed on the relocation of members from one city to another, which is called gang migration. Some gangs are very transient and conduct their activities on a national basis. This is especially true of illegal immigrant gangs.
However, the sudden appearance of Rollin’ 60s Crips graffiti in a public park in rural Iowa, for example, does not necessarily mean that the Los Angeles gang has set up a chapter in the community. Gang names are frequently copied, adopted, or passed on. In most instances, there is little or no real connection between local groups with the same name other than the name itself. Gang migration does occur, however.
According to the National Youth Gang Survey, 18 percent of all youth gang members had migrated from another jurisdiction to the one in which they were residing. Although gang migration is stereotypically attributed to illegal activities such as drug franchising, expansion of criminal enterprises is not the principal driving force behind migration. The most common reasons for migration are social considerations affecting individual gang members, including family relocation to improve the quality of life or to be near relatives and friends.
Moreover, in the National Youth Gang Survey, the vast majority (83 percent) of law enforcement respondents agreed that the appearance of gang members outside of large cities in the 1990s was caused by the relocation of young people from central cities.
Thus, the dispersion of the urban population to less populated areas contributed to the proliferation of gangs in suburban areas, small towns, and rural areas.Law enforcement professionals may not be able to differentiate among local gangs that have adopted names of the same well-known gangs from other locales but have no real connection with each other until they begin to interact with gang members through interviews, debriefings, and other contacts.
"Hybrid" versions of illegal alien gangs will begin to display variations of the original gang, such as giving different reasons for opposing rival gangs or displaying certain colors. Investigators who take the time to cross-check their local gang intelligence with that of other agencies concerning gangs with identical names are likely to find some subtle and some glaring differences.
Source: Institute for Intergovernmental Research National Youth Gang Center, National Association of Chiefs of Police Organized Crime Committee
Mexican cartels run U.S. drug trade, report says http://www.elpasotimes.com/newupdated/ci_11498067
[snip]The NDIC report released Sunday also said El Paso has reported the presence of members of Colombian and Dominican Republic drug organizations. Mexican cartels operate in El Paso, Las Cruces, Deming, Columbus and Albuquerque, as well.
An earlier NDIC report dated June 2008 said Mexican drug cartels are using Indian reservations in the United States to recruit workers, and use their lands to transport drugs. The report did not name the tribes involved.
This problem will be addressed very soon by the Obama administration.
There won’t be any more illegal aliens.
They will become newly minted citizens.
There won’t be any more illegal aliens. They will become newly minted citizens.
That is from the Jocelyn Elders school of thinking. Make drugs legal, and there will no longer be an illegal drug problem.
Problem solved.
Make murder legal and watch the murder rate plummet.
When training law enforcement groups on investigative issues surrounding drug trafficking or street gangs, instructors must resist the tendency to connect gangs in different cities just because the gangs share a common name. If the groups engage in ongoing criminal activity and alarm community members, law enforcement officers should focus on the criminal activity, regardless of the ideological beliefs or identifiers (i.e., name, symbols, and group colors) of the suspects. This practical approach would circumvent the frustration that results from trying to pigeonhole hybrid gangs into narrow categories and would avoid giving undue attention to gangs that want to be recognized as nationwide crime syndicates.<<<
I don't know what is more scary. The rise of gangs or the rise of cluelessness implied by this article about our law enforcement.
Please tell me I'm imagining that they don't see that the gangs are using the same organization tactics as MoveOn.org, CPUSA.org, Al Qaeda, et al?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1420911/posts
America’s Most Dangerous Gang
Honey, I have no idea what they ‘see’.
Another border agent may be in trouble:
OCEANSIDE: Man arrested after fight with Border Patrol agent
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2009/01/20/news/coastal/oceanside/z47a9cf909808f53088257545001041a2.txt
The Bush legacy rolls on.
LE's job isn't to protect you, it's to clean up the mess left behind after a crime has been committed. Get a CHL for when you're out and about, and a decent shotgun for home defense. Trivialities like gang colors, signs, and names become irrelevant when it's your life on the line.
That theory makes as much sense as anything else.
Your response to what I posted doesn't make sense.
And these gangs are not kids running around being delinquent. They are foreign funded terrorists and the point I was making was they are organizing into cells, like AQ and the Communist Party.
ping
And people say we don’t need to worry about the cultural consequences of the illegal invasion.
Yes, 0bama will fix it all. No, more wars, no more tears. 0bama is here! It’s pathetic really. I think that this issue with the drug cartels is more important than people think. What makes me amazed is that people actually want to give them amnesty and let these people stay here legally. This is their way of thinking. “Just make it legal and it will be no more.” That is the biggest and worst lie ever. Just like gun control, but that is a different story...
Life is great in Washington DC
No recession there!
All those useless hacks employ illegal nannies and housekeepers.
They laugh at us
What a social whirl in DC
So many distractions
So many cell phones
So many blackberries
So many available women for the guys married or not and teenagers for the gays
So much coke and other drugs
I’m convinced half the US Senators are on meds that have mind altering side effects that mess up their minds. Like the crying George Voinovich. Like Arlen Spector. Like Diane Feinstein. Like Robert Byrd. Like Ted Kennedy
All those fine and diverse restaurants staffed by illegal aliens
They laugh at us
Washington DC would grind to a halt without illegal aliens
Illegal aliens are their slave army support staff
They laugh at all the little Americans who live in the real world who have been hurt by massive illegal immigration
They laugh when an American is killed by an illegal alien drunk driver
They laugh when American gets raped
They laugh because we are their human sacrifices
Life is great in DC!!
You're right on! They won't do anything until they can generate a crisis that will permit them to grab more power. It's a well established pattern of behavior in our self-serving, rapacious, greedy and corrupt political class. They couldn't give a damn how much of our blood and property gets shed in the meantime.
You stated that LE is clueless, which I took to mean incompetent (some are, some aren’t). As for how the gangs are organized... well, I used to live next door to MS13 when I was in a townhouse in NoVA. Frankly, the only thing the predators understood was that the hubby and I were bigger predators, and we were left alone. The neighbors, unfortunately, were sheep and got fleeced. :(
We watched a NATGEO program Sunday about the Mexican gangs and what they do to their victims. Apparently, they make “soup” with their dead victims and if someone really makes them mad they do it with live ones too... they boil the bodies in some type of fuel (diesel, oil, or something to that effect).
There was also a program about the gangs in New Orleans, who, after the Crips and Bloods came to town, either killed them all or if any were left alive, ran them out of town. Makes you wonder what really went on during the Hurricane Katrina aftermath doesn’t it...
Rewriting what I wrote doesn’t make your comments fit as a response to what I wrote either.
Black Jack, where are you?
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