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Experts: Obama Should Swear Oath Again
NewsMax ^ | 1/21/09

Posted on 01/21/2009 10:23:48 AM PST by Sammy67

The presidential oath of office should be re-administered to Barack Obama because of his flub during Tuesday’s swearing-in ceremony, legal experts say.

Because of a mistake by Chief Justice John Roberts, Obama transposed one of the words in the oath. He should have said he will “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,” but instead repeated Roberts’ cue and said he will “execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully.”

Josh White of the Washington Post noted: “The presidential oath of office is required of a new president before he can execute his power, and the Constitution is clear that its 35 words must be spoken exactly.”

Jonathan Turley, a professor of constitutional law at George Washington University, told the Post: “He should probably go ahead and take the oath again. If he doesn’t, there are going to be people who for the next four years are going to argue that he didn’t meet the constitutional standard.”

And Charles Cooper, head of the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel under President Ronald Reagan, said an incorrect recitation of

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1 posted on 01/21/2009 10:23:48 AM PST by Sammy67
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To: Sammy67

Constitutional scholars - those guys must get laid a lot.


2 posted on 01/21/2009 10:24:46 AM PST by PC99
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To: Sammy67

Let him swear an oath in his native land - Kenya!


3 posted on 01/21/2009 10:25:59 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Day 2 of the Usurper 0bama's [failed] regime .....)
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To: Sammy67

Why bother?....It’s not like the guy was born here or anything.....


4 posted on 01/21/2009 10:26:28 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Sammy67

The King has been crowned.


5 posted on 01/21/2009 10:26:53 AM PST by sweetiepiezer (I have a Pal in Sarah)
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To: Sammy67
Jonathan Turley, a professor of constitutional law at George Washington University, told the Post: “He should probably go ahead and take the oath again. If he doesn’t, there are going to be people who for the next four years are going to argue that he didn’t meet the constitutional standard.”

Like, oh, I dont know, a Birth Certificate?

6 posted on 01/21/2009 10:26:53 AM PST by smith288 (Obamunism! Http://www.cafepress.com/smith288)
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To: Sammy67

He knows your damn words!

Klattu, Obama, ... necktie! noodle?
No that wasn’t it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox1A6CUW4W0

Above link explains reference for the B movie challenged.


7 posted on 01/21/2009 10:26:53 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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To: Sammy67

I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that he already has done so in the Oval Office sometime yesterday.


8 posted on 01/21/2009 10:27:05 AM PST by murron (Proud Marine Mom)
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To: Sammy67
Yeah... I should have tried that argument on my TI. "Sarge, I didn't say the oath exactly right"

/johnny

9 posted on 01/21/2009 10:27:32 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (God Bless us all, each, and every one.)
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To: Sammy67

Have him bring his citizenship history paperwork this time.


10 posted on 01/21/2009 10:27:37 AM PST by Paladin2 (No, pundits strongly believe that the proper solution is more dilution.)
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To: Sammy67

I thought he became president at noon on Jan 20 — the oath does not really mean anything. I don’t like typing that, but I think it’s a cold fact. Am I wrong?


11 posted on 01/21/2009 10:27:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Sammy67

Might save Bambi a perjury charge if he does not restate it.


12 posted on 01/21/2009 10:28:39 AM PST by Danae (Amerikan Unity My Ass)
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To: murron

True. If the Supremes felt that the oath needed to be redone, I’m sure it was already handled.


13 posted on 01/21/2009 10:28:39 AM PST by tips up
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To: Sammy67
Great!

We have a president who want show us his real birth-certificate and hasn't taken the Presidential Oaf.

14 posted on 01/21/2009 10:28:43 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Sammy67

it’s not as if he intended to keep to his oath anyway


15 posted on 01/21/2009 10:29:22 AM PST by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Sammy67
We have more serious problems that whether he swears to “faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States” or “execute faithfully the Office of President of the United States.”

The Chief Justice administered the oath. The President-elect repeated it. It was witnessed by the Nation.


16 posted on 01/21/2009 10:30:10 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: Sammy67

This is silly. I’m sure he retook the oath already if there was a question, and I’m sure the paperwork that he signed was proper. If not, retaking the oath is a matter of simple procedure and does not need to be televised.


17 posted on 01/21/2009 10:30:57 AM PST by lainie (The US congress is full to the brim of absolutely disgusting thieves who deserve humiliating ouster.)
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To: TomGuy

I also read where the public oath we witnessed yesterday was a formality—the official oath was given earlier in the day.


18 posted on 01/21/2009 10:31:50 AM PST by biss5577
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To: PC99

LOL!!!!


19 posted on 01/21/2009 10:32:06 AM PST by peace with honor
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To: Sammy67
“The presidential oath of office is required of a new president before he can execute his power, and the Constitution is clear that its 35 words must be spoken exactly.”

"Klaatu Verada N.....Necktie....Nickel....It's an "N" word, it's definitely an 'N' word!"

20 posted on 01/21/2009 10:32:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: PC99
Constitutional scholars - those guys must get laid a lot.

Constitutional scholars have longer Articles.

21 posted on 01/21/2009 10:32:50 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (Ronald Reagan had a vision of America. Barack Obama has a vision of Barack Obama.)
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To: Sammy67

“Yeah I’d like people to stop eating my house too, but that ain’t gonna happen.”


22 posted on 01/21/2009 10:33:02 AM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: lainie

Just like someone somewhere saw his birth certificate and transcripts...


23 posted on 01/21/2009 10:33:36 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Sammy67

Seriously, as if the Constitution of the United States matters any longer, especially to a politician’s oath of office to defend, protect and abide by it! Although it’s not funny, it is however, laughable.


24 posted on 01/21/2009 10:34:47 AM PST by drypowder
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To: TomGuy

He pledged to uphold the constitution. Just like his role model, Abe Lincoln, did.


25 posted on 01/21/2009 10:35:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Sammy67

“faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States,”

“execute the Office of President of the United States faithfully.”

It was kind of a clumsy moment, but can someone explain why these two phrases don’t mean EXACTLY the same thing?

Now, refusing to produce his birth certificate . . . that’s another kettle of fish. Which is why the ComPost doesn’t raise the issue. They know this issue is meaningless. That’s why they raised it.


26 posted on 01/21/2009 10:35:35 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Sammy67
Proof of native born citizenship is also required. The whole thing could be wrapped up for under $10 and 10 minutes work.
27 posted on 01/21/2009 10:35:45 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Sammy67

While one of the words was out of place, he still recited the oath administered by the Chief Justice. There are other legitimate issues to bring, but I don’t think this is one. He can’t be happy about how it went down though ... the historical moment was mildly marred by the confusion.

I used the incident to make my son feel better today. He was nervous about an oral report he has to give in class today. I told him Obama messed up the oath, but he’s still the President. My kids found this quite funny. They noticed the flub when they watched it at school.


28 posted on 01/21/2009 10:36:50 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: biss5577

I read somewhere that there was an amendment that basically says, oath or no oath, he became President precisely at Noon. So basically the oath is for show only.


29 posted on 01/21/2009 10:36:55 AM PST by dfwgator (1996 2006 2008 - Good Things Come in Threes)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

How appropriate for you to post it!


30 posted on 01/21/2009 10:36:55 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Sammy67

Cloud over his head.


31 posted on 01/21/2009 10:39:04 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: murron

I agree. I think they corrected it in private, but even if they didn’t it is a mute point. Roberts was the one who flubbed.


32 posted on 01/21/2009 10:39:10 AM PST by EBH ( Directive 10-289)
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To: Cicero
Which is why the ComPost doesn’t raise the issue. They know this issue is meaningless. That’s why they raised it.

The Left is trying to put the Right onto a number of wild goose chases, things that won't grow legs and that will seem to make those who don't like the glow of Obamanation seem crazy.

33 posted on 01/21/2009 10:39:45 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Sammy67

faithfully execute or execute ... faithfully

“Faithfully” is an adverb of manner and as such is usually placed after the verb or entire expression. The meaning of the sentence isn’t changed if the word is before the verb or after the entire expression.

These experts didn’t give a crap whether or not Obama displayed his credentials to qualify for office but they suddenly care where the adverb is placed in the sentence.

Give me a dang break. There are bigger clouds hanging over him than adverb placement.


34 posted on 01/21/2009 10:39:59 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan
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To: JRandomFreeper

I thought about that - but I was afraid that the female Marine Captain that swore me in at MEPS would come and find me.

Actually, I still kinda am...


35 posted on 01/21/2009 10:40:01 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: Sammy67

I don’t see any difference in meaning. Am I missing something?


36 posted on 01/21/2009 10:40:30 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: PC99

Good one ...

I went to a wedding where the bride was a law professor. A sister, at the reception, made a point of saying that lawyers finding someone to marry wasn’t easy.


37 posted on 01/21/2009 10:41:00 AM PST by OldNavyVet (Character counts)
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To: Sammy67; The Sons of Liberty; rightwingextremist1776; LucyT; BP2; GreatOne; flattorney; ...
As the people at newsMax should know, the real constituional problem is not a minor change in the verbiage in the oath administered.

The real problem is that Obama almost surely committed perjury in taking the oath: he swore that he would protect the Constitution, whereas his taking the office of the presidency violates the "natural born citizen" clause in all likelihood. He has never presented evidence to substantiate that he is a natural born citizen (nor even presented evidence to substantiate that he is a citizen).

38 posted on 01/21/2009 10:41:19 AM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Sammy67


39 posted on 01/21/2009 10:41:53 AM PST by vietvet67
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To: chickpundit
Obama messed up the oath

To be nit-picky, it was Roberts who messed up the oath. Obama paused, as if to wait for Roberts to correct himself. Roberts didn't. So Obama repeated the oath as Roberts stated it.


40 posted on 01/21/2009 10:43:22 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: a fool in paradise

I think it's "Cravatu Barack-O Necktie"...

41 posted on 01/21/2009 10:43:51 AM PST by mikrofon (Barack "P.Resident" Obama)
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To: Sammy67
“He should probably go ahead and take the oath again. If he doesn’t, there are going to be people who for the next four years are going to argue that he didn’t meet the constitutional standard.”

Oh, what the hell - the left mocked Bush as selected, not elected, so why not have a little bit of fun at Obama's expense?
42 posted on 01/21/2009 10:45:03 AM PST by reagan_fanatic ("You followin' me, camera guy?")
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To: TexasCajun

We have a president who won’t show us his real birth certificate and has all his school records sealed. So much for transparency in this administration.


43 posted on 01/21/2009 10:47:00 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: TexasCajun

We have a president who won’t show us his real birth certificate and has all his school records sealed. So much for transparency in this administration.


44 posted on 01/21/2009 10:47:01 AM PST by IM2MAD
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Got the reference, your screen name also helped.

“Definitely an N-word!”


45 posted on 01/21/2009 10:47:43 AM PST by LayoutGuru2 (Know the difference between honoring diversity and honoring perversity? No? You must be a liberal!)
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To: Cicero

“So help you, God?”
“So help me, God.”


46 posted on 01/21/2009 10:49:56 AM PST by onedoug
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To: TomGuy

This was my read:

Obama jumped the gun early, which confused Roberts. Roberts then put “faithfully” in the wrong spot. This confused Obama. Roberts then corrected himself by putting “faithfully” back in the right spot, but Obama recited it the way Roberts originally said it. They both made mistakes, and their errors compounded the confusion.


47 posted on 01/21/2009 10:50:40 AM PST by chickpundit (Palin '12)
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To: Sammy67; All

The Constitution, specifically prevents Sen. Clinton from being Secretary of State as well. It says you cannot vote a raise for one office then assume or be appointed to that office — However, all of our elected representatives swearing a oath to uphold, support and defend the Constitution will vote her in anyway.

Our Constitution in now a document used in Washington DC.


48 posted on 01/21/2009 10:51:51 AM PST by edcoil (Liberals are the evil we must fight and get rid of.)
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To: drypowder
Although it’s not funny, it is however, laughable.

No wonder the rest of the world gets a negative opinion of America.

Don't get me wrong, they want to live in America. But not because they 'like' the attitude of the American people. They do like 'what' we have.

It's sad that we are (in general) the spoiled, naive, easily-duped society that can be led around by a gold ring through it's nose.

49 posted on 01/21/2009 10:54:39 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: dfwgator

Oh well, I guess we’re just trying to think of anything to make his presidency illegitimate!! And, by the way, congrats on the Gator win! GREAT game!!!!!


50 posted on 01/21/2009 10:55:07 AM PST by biss5577
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