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Tech school instructor on leave over Obama remarks
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Posted on 01/21/2009 11:23:35 AM PST by DogBarkTree

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To: Izzy Dunne
I noticed that little bit of hypocrisy as well.

I still think the Earth wandered into a "stupid" zone embedded in the Universe. It's the only thing that adequately explains the leftward shift of the Bell Curve.

41 posted on 01/21/2009 11:53:01 AM PST by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: DogBarkTree

I’d have walked out too, as was her perogative.

Of course, I’m sure no one ever said anything derogatory about President Bush in a classroom. And if they did, I just know they would have been fired over it.


42 posted on 01/21/2009 11:53:58 AM PST by Lorianne (People who do not own their homes outright are mortgage-owners, not homeowners.)
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To: DogBarkTree
First of all – why were students watching TV in a computer networking class?

History, communications, journalism, etc., that I could understand, but if I were in a computer networking class at a tech school and presumably paying for that class, I’d be asking for a pro-rated refund for that day for wasting my time regardless of whether the instructor was making comments that I agreed with or not.

On a side note, my company set up one of our conference rooms with a live CNN feed on the flat panels of the inauguration Obamination.

Actual email:

”On this historic day, we are going to try and stream video of the inauguration onto the three screens in the Training Room over the lunch hour.”

“Please feel free to set your schedule to join us with your lunch on this momentous occasion.”


As I walked by the room several times during the day, I only saw one person in there watching as he was eating his lunch.

My team and I on the other hand, were way too busy to even eat lunch yesterday and watching that “historic” and “momentous occasion” and the CNN coverage would have made me loose my lunch anyway. We had actual real work to do, like making sure payroll got done.

I’m sorry your paycheck was incorrect or late but you can certainly understand that I had to drop everything I was doing to watch CNN’s coverage of the inauguration – it’s Change you can Believe in…and speaking of change…you will soon notice that your net take home pay isn’t what it used to be….
43 posted on 01/21/2009 11:54:41 AM PST by Caramelgal (My employer had a room for us to watch the Obamination. I, on the other hand had actual work to do.)
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To: DogBarkTree

I am surprised that this is coming from a Tech school. Most are science or computer oriented and value the truth. Unlike “Higher Education”.

Looks like the instructor did value the truth, but the politically correct student did not.

I would like to applaud the instructor for his frankness.

My own approach.

I refused to watch anything connected with the Coronation.

I plead guilty to being a Patriotic American who desires a smaller government, and to simply be left alone to live my life in peace.

I will not be reconstructed, pacified, supressed, or re-eductated by this tripe.


44 posted on 01/21/2009 11:56:53 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: a fool in paradise

“All inaugurations are “historic”. There have been fewer than 50 of them.

What was done for the 2 Bush inuagurations? Was this “more historic”?”

I didn’t see in the excerpt, and didn’t read more... did they comment on what was done for the Bush inuaguration?
Are you sure it wasn’t show?
As for being historic, yes, there have only been 44 of these events so far. But, this is a first. Firsts tend to be remembered more.
Neil Armstrong was first... do you know who was commander of the 2nd crew? I don’t, not off the top of my head.

I don’t like Obama, I think it’s going to be a long 8 years, but I am not going to lose my perspective.


45 posted on 01/21/2009 11:57:23 AM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: DogBarkTree

My daughter had a professor making snarky remarks about President Bush that she found very offensive, but was mature enough to handle it, not file a complaint to cause a suspension.

Teachers should ALL keep their opinions to themselves unless it relates directly to the course they are teaching. When they DO speak, it should be clear what their opinion is and why, and not weave the opinion into the rest of the course work.


46 posted on 01/21/2009 11:58:41 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: a fool in paradise
"I won’t stand by idle while those who’ve insisted that “dissent is patriotic” now have a new found love of flag pins and idol worship."

They only meant that their dissent is patriotic, not yours.

On the other hand, they aren't worried much about our dissent, because we won't display the same level of no class, psychotic tendencies that they display.

47 posted on 01/21/2009 12:00:53 PM PST by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: brownsfan

It’s not a first. First non-Christian maybe.


48 posted on 01/21/2009 12:06:16 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: Texas Fossil

If the teacher loses his job, I believe he has a court case. There is an organization associated with the film “Indoctrinate U” that helps in these types of situations. I can’t remember what the organization is called right now.


49 posted on 01/21/2009 12:08:47 PM PST by Elvina (BHO is double plus ungood.)
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To: DogBarkTree

Yet, for 8 years, college profs were allowed to say whatever they wanted about Bush. Go figure.


50 posted on 01/21/2009 12:10:11 PM PST by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: a fool in paradise

“It’s not a first. First non-Christian maybe.”

Enjoy your long 8 years with your ODS.


51 posted on 01/21/2009 12:11:41 PM PST by brownsfan (We are sooooo screwed.)
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To: DogBarkTree

During that “historic” moment yesterday, I was in the bathroom doing to the toilet what I expect will be done to the country during the next 4 years.


52 posted on 01/21/2009 12:13:42 PM PST by Darth Dan
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To: Elvina

He only has a case if liberals were allowed to bring politics into the class. If the school enforced their policy of “no politics in class” uniformly, then this professor doesn’t have a case.


53 posted on 01/21/2009 12:21:22 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: brownsfan
Show me a baptism certificate. His sister says their mother was agnostic. She brought in all religious texts. His fathers were non-observant muslism. He was sent to koranic studies classes. Who raised him as a Christian? Even his grandparents were non-observant.

When he went to his own specially scheduled post death, post election, memorial for his grandmother, it was at a Unitarian church.

He holds to heart his own "healthy skepticism for organized religion" that he claims he got from his mother.

He believes that Jesus is a "historical figure", that all faiths are equal (God will not damn those following other faiths to Hell) and that sin is what goes against Obama's own values.

2004 Interview: Obama Talks about Jesus, Heaven and Sin (June 3, 2008)

“OBAMA: Right. Jesus is a historical figure for me, and he’s also a bridge between God and man, in the Christian faith, and one that I think is powerful precisely because he serves as that means of us reaching something higher. And he’s also a wonderful teacher. I think it’s important for all of us, of whatever faith, to have teachers in the flesh and also teachers in history.”

Obama: “There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they're going to hell.”

GG: You don’t believe that?

OBAMA: I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.

GG: What is sin?

OBAMA: Being out of alignment with my values.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham#Religion Religion

A “friend” from high school has said that Dunham “touted herself as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue.”[6] Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked if her mother was an atheist, said, “I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books — the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching — and wanted us to recognise that everyone has something beautiful to contribute.”[19] “Jesus, she felt, was a wonderful example. But she felt that a lot of Christians behaved in un-Christian ways.”[20]

In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote, “My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess... In a land [Indonesia] where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hardship... she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism.”[21] In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, “I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known.”[22] Religion for her was “just one of the many ways — and not necessarily the best way — that man attempted to control the unknowable and understand the deeper truths about our lives,” Obama wrote.[20] In 2007 Obama described his mother as “a Christian from Kansas.” “I was raised by my mother,” he continued. “So, I’ve always been a Christian.”[23][24] Also in 2007, he said in a speech, “My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew. But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution.”[1]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524-5,00.html

“Indonesia has the world's largest Muslim population, but Obama’s household was not religious. ‘My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew,’ Obama said in a 2007 speech. ‘But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution. And as a consequence, so did I.’”

And Bill Clinton was our nation's first black president. The popular press told us so repeatedly.

I think it was a truly colorblind moment for them to make that statement.

What's your point?

54 posted on 01/21/2009 12:22:49 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: brownsfan

Nice of you to concede 2012 to Obama-Biden already.

Carter-Mondale ‘80 had a nice ring to it too.


55 posted on 01/21/2009 12:24:10 PM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: DogBarkTree
...the nation's first black president was elected "because of the color of his skin."

I've said it before...one must not speak the truth within earshot of 0bama supporters.
They simply will not tolerate it and one will pay dearly when they use the word 'offended'.

56 posted on 01/21/2009 12:50:43 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The good of the people is the highest law." - - Cicero)
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To: DogBarkTree

This school needs to be freeped.

I’ll send them a nice scathing e-mail tonight and let them know that I will never even consider their school for any of my kids.


57 posted on 01/21/2009 12:58:24 PM PST by glock_fan
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To: JFC
Life is not going to be fun the next 4-8 years!

What makes you think der Fuhrer will stop after eight years?

58 posted on 01/21/2009 1:05:02 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Day 2 of the Usurper 0bama's [failed] regime .....)
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To: a fool in paradise
History will truly be made when the second black man is elected president

Technically, Condi Rice was President from noon until 12:06 when Obama took the "oaf". She was the first black President and first woman President...if only for 6 minutes. Blame the extended performance of the classical music for the timing snafu.

59 posted on 01/21/2009 1:28:45 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: DogBarkTree
The only question is, should the teacher be:

A) Burned at the state for heresy

B) Forced to drink hemlock for heresy

C) Placed on the rack and given the option to confess to heresy

So many choices in Obama's Amerika.

60 posted on 01/21/2009 1:36:26 PM PST by Starfleet Command
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