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Some troops unhappy about Obama pledge on gays
reuters ^ | January 21, 2009 | Tim Cocks

Posted on 01/21/2009 12:32:55 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Many U.S. troops in Iraq were overjoyed to see President Barack Obama take his oath, but some were unhappy about one thing the Democrat has promised to do: permit gay and lesbian soldiers to serve openly.

Obama said during his campaign he opposed a 1993 law stating that homosexuals are not eligible to work in the U.S. military, widely referred to as the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" rule.

This month, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs, when asked whether the new administration planned to scrap the law, replied on the president's transition website: "You don't hear politicians give a one-word answer much. But it's 'yes'."

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodod; cicobama; dontaskdonttell; gayvote; homosexualagenda; socialengineering; usmilitary
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1 posted on 01/21/2009 12:32:59 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Many U.S. troops in Iraq were overjoyed to see President Barack Obama take his oath,

Define "Many"

2 posted on 01/21/2009 12:36:12 PM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Many U.S. troops in Iraq were overjoyed to see President Barack Obama take his oath”

...this is where I stopped reading. The above is BS!


3 posted on 01/21/2009 12:36:52 PM PST by albie
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To: qam1
Define "Many"

MSM Speak = More than 1.

4 posted on 01/21/2009 12:36:55 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Obama - what you get when you mix Affirmative Action with the Peter Principle.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Many U.S. troops in Iraq were overjoyed to see President Barack Obama take his oath, but some were unhappy about one thing

Many were overjoyed, but some were unhappy?

More like some were happy, but many were disgusted...

Gotta love the spin.
5 posted on 01/21/2009 12:37:40 PM PST by ConservativeWarrior (In last year's nests, there are no birds this year.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

If I wanted someone to watch my back, I generally wouldn’t mean it literally.


6 posted on 01/21/2009 12:38:50 PM PST by allmost
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To: Free ThinkerNY

I for one am very happy to see Obama pushing hard on the gay thing; it shows he’s a total fool. He learned nothing from Clinton’s failure to bring gay rights to the military, nor from the fact that prop 8 succeeded in the most liberal state in the nation. He’s making his own political grave; my only hope is that he keeps digging.


7 posted on 01/21/2009 12:40:53 PM PST by eclecticEel (The liberal's sense of compassion begins and ends with their own person.)
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To: eclecticEel

This is still a bad sign. The Greeks, Romans, and British did exactly the same thing before their empires fell. We’re on shaky ground.


8 posted on 01/21/2009 12:43:21 PM PST by Baladas ((ABBHO))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Overjoyed to see this America hating, leftist traitor take the oath of office? Why, of course! You can tell by the way in which Al Gore worked to disqualify military votes in 2000. Yeah boy. The army’s a BIG, BIG Hussein supporter.


9 posted on 01/21/2009 12:47:07 PM PST by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
Message to our troops:

For God's sake, please don't leave the military because of this buffoon! To do so is to turn that fine institution over to the hard-left social engineers.

I do believe that the time will come within the next decade where we will see orders for US soldiers to "suppress" US civilians. When that time comes, we will need men of honor and courage within the military to stand up. And you won't be there if you leave now...
10 posted on 01/21/2009 12:48:05 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Antoninus

“....I do believe that the time will come within the next decade where we will see orders for US soldiers to “suppress” US civilians. When that time comes, we will need men of honor and courage within the military to stand up. And you won’t be there if you leave now....”

I’ve thought the same. However, when the solders take a vow to “...protect the constitution from ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC...” it’s going to be interesting to see which way they’ll point the weapons.


11 posted on 01/21/2009 12:53:28 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The reporter failed to mention that military supply officers have recently began increasing their orders for soap and bath towels.


12 posted on 01/21/2009 12:56:02 PM PST by SandWMan (End Women's Suffrage Now!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Give’em a pink beret and push them into the front lines and the muslims will take care of the rest. They are such a tolerant religion.


13 posted on 01/21/2009 1:06:51 PM PST by LetsRok
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Given the subject of the article, the reporter has an unfortunate last name.


14 posted on 01/21/2009 1:07:06 PM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: Free ThinkerNY

“Many”? Really?

The lengths these people go to in order to cover for their “One”.

Sickening.


15 posted on 01/21/2009 1:11:20 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Da Coyote
I’ve thought the same. However, when the solders take a vow to “...protect the constitution from ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC...” it’s going to be interesting to see which way they’ll point the weapons.

The military would be our only hope since the GOP is now spineless.

16 posted on 01/21/2009 1:12:54 PM PST by eekitsagreek (Give me a Stanley Cup (or Amy Grant or Sarah Palin) under my Christmas tree PLEASE!)
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To: autumnraine

From my experience, an overwhelming number of black soldiers support Obama(Probably the same percentage of blacks in society as a whole). So, I would say that qualifies as “many.”


17 posted on 01/21/2009 1:14:34 PM PST by Tex Pete (Obama for Change: from our pockets, our piggy banks, and our couch cushions!)
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To: Baladas

Oh, you make a good point. Although most of us already realize that November 4 heralded the end of this great nation. I have no doubt of that myself, but I will still fight on.


18 posted on 01/21/2009 1:14:44 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Some troops unhappy about Obama pledge on gays

REALLY? YOU THINK THAT MAYBE THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT RISK THEIR LIVES TO DEFEND THIS NATION ITS CITIZENS AND OUR FREEDOMS MIGHT BE UPSET THAT OBAMA WILL PUSH FOR HOMOSEXUAL TO OPENLY SERVE IN THE MILITARY ? THAT HE WILL SEEK APPEASEMENT WITH OUR ENEMIES THAT SEEK TO DESTROY OUR NATION?
WELL I AM SHOCKED!


19 posted on 01/21/2009 1:15:22 PM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Coming to You From the Front Lines of Occupied America)
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To: Tex Pete

Well, then that’s sad. Very sad indeed. Black or not.


20 posted on 01/21/2009 1:16:33 PM PST by autumnraine
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To: Free ThinkerNY

This isn’t going to stop with just “serving openly.” Next will be demands for base housing for homosexual couples, “Gay Appreciation Month,” sensitivity classes, etc.

Glad I retired in 2004, so that POS saboteur wouldn’t signing my certificate.

The dark years are upon us.


23 posted on 01/21/2009 1:26:27 PM PST by ScottinVA (Make my world PURRRFECT, Lord Obama!)
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To: eclecticEel
He learned nothing from Clinton’s failure to bring gay rights to the military, nor from the fact that prop 8 succeeded in the most liberal state in the nation.

And his voters pushed it over the top.

24 posted on 01/21/2009 1:26:55 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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To: allmost
If I wanted someone to watch my back, I generally wouldn’t mean it literally.

Or that closely either...

25 posted on 01/21/2009 1:29:34 PM PST by ejonesie22 (Stupidity has an expiration date 1-20-2013 *(Thanks Nana))
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Do homosexuals serve openly in the North Korean, Chinese, or Middle Eastern armies? Just wondering.


26 posted on 01/21/2009 1:40:42 PM PST by informavoracious
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Heard a talking head say that they had gotten lots of calls from military personnel who were sooo impressed with Obama because he gave a crisp salute.

To whom, I have no idea. But if that’s the criteria, god help them.


27 posted on 01/21/2009 2:00:20 PM PST by Carley (Remember when we had a real President)
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To: informavoracious

“Do homosexuals serve openly in the North Korean, Chinese, or Middle Eastern armies? Just wondering”.

...yes! If they don’t mind holding their heads in their hands...so to speak.


28 posted on 01/21/2009 2:02:11 PM PST by albie
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To: IYAS9YAS
Define "Many" MSM Speak = More than 1.

Depends ...

If they're counting leftists, you're right.

If they're counting "rightists", "Many" is somewhere in excess of six billion.

29 posted on 01/21/2009 2:02:58 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: eclecticEel
I for one am very happy to see Obama pushing hard on the gay thing; it shows he’s a total fool. He learned nothing from Clinton’s failure to bring gay rights to the military, nor from the fact that prop 8 succeeded in the most liberal state in the nation. He’s making his own political grave; my only hope is that he keeps digging.

These aren't Obama's ideas, this crap he's coming up with is exactly what the media wants him to do to tick off conservatives.

30 posted on 01/21/2009 2:43:37 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Morgana
never...
31 posted on 01/21/2009 3:03:55 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist -)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As most of us know, and especially the ones who have served, MOST - as in a gigantic mjority - hate having a democrat in the White house. MANY - as in a tiny minority - like having a democrat in the White house. I forsee a large exodus of troops from all fields. Get while the gettin’ is good.


32 posted on 01/21/2009 3:25:40 PM PST by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: autumnraine

Obama wants to promote a gay agenda even in the military? Maybe gays gave him money for his campaign ads and he is obligated to say this garbage.


33 posted on 01/21/2009 3:27:00 PM PST by FreedBird (BB)
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To: qam1

MSM push polliing one “not asked not telling” soldier is happy and the DBM will portray it as a 50/50 split.

remember obama ran on tax cuts and mccain on tax increases. (and mccain was an incopetent campaigner)


34 posted on 01/21/2009 3:29:07 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: eclecticEel
This is about riddling the military with PC "political commissars" to begin the absorption of that branch of power into the Leftist power structure.

Once the change is complete, it'll be a lot easier to kill mouthy, uppity Saxon dogs like us who don't like Socialism or Depression caused by the government.

Just keep watching our Norman betters for more entertaining stuff as the days pass on! :-)

35 posted on 01/21/2009 3:56:23 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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To: informavoracious
Do homosexuals serve openly in the North Korean, Chinese, or Middle Eastern armies?

Among the countries of the Western industrialized world, Austria, Australia, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Ireland, Israel, Japan, The Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, and the UK allow gays and lesbians to serve freely
http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_mili.htm
Countries that ban gays from serving in the military:
Brazil, China, Cuba, Egypt, Iran, Malaysia, Mexico, North Korea, Philippines, Saudi Arabia, Singapore, Syria, Turkey, Venezuela, Yemen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientation_and_military_service
36 posted on 01/21/2009 3:57:29 PM PST by houston1
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To: Free ThinkerNY
No one can stop Obama from failing at this point because the RINOs destroyed the only party that could so now is time only enough to hope he fails quickly. When enough idiots that voted for him wake up and realize that he was their False Hope and Unwanted Change then the Rats will be obsolete.
37 posted on 01/21/2009 4:07:44 PM PST by tobyhill (Obama gets no free pass from Free Republic!)
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To: Antoninus
For God's sake, please don't leave the military because of this buffoon! To do so is to turn that fine institution over to the hard-left social engineers.

I do believe that the time will come within the next decade where we will see orders for US soldiers to "suppress" US civilians. When that time comes, we will need men of honor and courage within the military to stand up. And you won't be there if you leave now...

Agreed. See my post #35

38 posted on 01/21/2009 4:10:43 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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To: qam1
Many is defined as black soldiers. I read where only 68% of military voted for McCain. That is extremely low too me. That means that 32% voted for Obama. And the grand majority of that was black. So, they probably just spoke to black or even some Hispanic soldiers.
39 posted on 01/21/2009 4:14:43 PM PST by RetiredArmy ("When a politician masquerades as a messiah, be very afraid." (nicely said in article))
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To: BerryDingle; eclecticEel

“I for one am very happy to see Obama pushing hard on the gay thing; it shows he’s a total fool.”


During the primaries it was barely even brought up that Mitt Romney has stated that his goal was to end don’t ask, and to fully open up the military to homosexuality.


40 posted on 01/21/2009 4:31:44 PM PST by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

I thought the MSM defined ‘some’ as 3-9.

And that anything over 10 was ‘many’...


41 posted on 01/21/2009 4:33:49 PM PST by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Antoninus
Please don't take this wrong....

God's sake, please don't leave the military because of this buffoon! To do so is to turn that fine institution over to the hard-left social engineers.

Why don't you join then? After going through absolute hell (voluntarily) in Iraq, leaving families behind.... for what? So some sodomite can trash morale by opening the gates, code pink can sit in the seats of honor at an inauguration, for the first time in 56 years the Hereos Inauguration Ball is snubbed, terrorists (yeah you know those that killed our brothers) are to be released from prison, and instead of the agreed upon SOFA its cut and run time in Iraq (and piss on those that died for the cause of liberty).....

the other 52% of this country can kiss my white @SS!

42 posted on 01/21/2009 4:51:22 PM PST by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (Isaiah 6:8)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

well this is no surprise is it

I know a guy round the corner waiting to be deployed and has said he will not reenlist.
I have spoken to a few ex military friends who I served with and no one is happy and my sons will not join if this policy gets put in

maybe if he wasn’t so egotistical he would talk to the generals insteead of homo special interest groups.

homo’s open in the military
homo’s to have more access to kids
homo’s to get married by way of throwing out state laws and overriding DOMA

Yep we know his special agenda and it is not for America or for the military

after all he didn’t get to the military ball but he did get to see kayne west at the MTV ball.

I can’t believe this but Clinton would have been better than this buffoon


43 posted on 01/21/2009 4:52:19 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Antoninus

he is out to destroy the military and then he can being in his civilian security force he talked about and got cheers from the crowd.

Lincoln was in a war and phony here likes to think he is Lincoln.

will history repeat itself but instead of north v south it could be right v left

he will throw the 1st amendment away
then take away our guns
the military will be in tatters
then his new civilian security force comes into play.

Now wouldn’t you think there would be one journalist out there who is curious about what this civilian security force is and why does he fight so hard to not show his birth certificate?


44 posted on 01/21/2009 4:56:16 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: autumnraine

there was something about it not too long ago

every race and gender went against obama except one and that were blacks in the military who were voting for him.

All women, whites, Hispanics, Asian men wanted Mccain in big numbers
blacks wanted obama in big numbers


45 posted on 01/21/2009 5:00:51 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: ScottinVA

can you imagine telling some marines this is how to kill when you shoot
when to stab
this is how to fight and bomb

then this afternoon we will have sensitivity training as many homo’s feel they are not welcome

what a pathetic man this phony is
if he wants homo’s to be open then have them in his civilian security force he will have i.e. the brown shirts


46 posted on 01/21/2009 5:03:16 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: BerryDingle

exactly these ideas are his commie views and agenda.

He is out to ruin this military and then get in his own civilian security force

He is not interested in foreign policy as his first day shows but more interested in homo’s.

Obama is not in charge of this country right now, George soros is , obama is the puppet and the likes of ACORN , move on etc are the troops to stop dissent


47 posted on 01/21/2009 5:06:04 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
but some were unhappy about one thing the Democrat has promised to do: permit gay and lesbian soldiers to serve openly.

I can guarantee that it's most, not some!!!

48 posted on 01/21/2009 5:12:59 PM PST by Doofer
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To: RetiredArmy
One good thing that would come out it is that blacks don't do the whole "gay" thing.

The Messiah would alienate much of that 32% by doing this.

However, I think they have "other plans" for the military, as indicated in my post #35.

49 posted on 01/21/2009 5:16:42 PM PST by an amused spectator (Citizen Kenyan: The man who created The Sock-Puppet Constitution.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

What’s Obama’s policy on flashers and Peeping Toms?


50 posted on 01/21/2009 5:34:44 PM PST by Mojave (Own a pit bull; own the consequences.)
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