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Obama Giving Up In Iraq; To Make It Official Tomorrow; All Brigates Out In 16 Months.
FOX News | Major Garret

Posted on 01/21/2009 4:19:35 PM PST by MindBender26

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To: JennysCool

I agree. Everyone should cool down and think about it. We already won and kicked the living shiite of the insurgents thanks to Petraeus’s surge and Bush. Time to go, and get ready for our impending war with say, China or Iran.

It’s Hussein who wants the glory.


51 posted on 01/21/2009 4:35:16 PM PST by max americana
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To: Logical me
Obama supporters tell me that it cost too much and that money needs to be brought back to the US for social programs. I try to tell them that it is for their safety and that the government of Iraq is young and not able to fight a dictatorship take over yet but they don't listen.
52 posted on 01/21/2009 4:35:29 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: MindBender26

How is this different from the plan that Petraus had already negotiated with the Iraqi government?


53 posted on 01/21/2009 4:35:52 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: JennysCool

BS jenny. The Bush Administration was not going to broadcast a timetable for all the world to see and Obama is pulling out ALL BRIGADES! Sounds like he is leaving no presence behind to me.

And please..don’t tell everyone to ‘calm down’. Obama and the dems are going to destroy this country in short order and we had better get mad and vocal about it FAST!!


54 posted on 01/21/2009 4:36:08 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: Murp
No enlistment would force Obama to bring back the draft, and That
poisoned pen will bring about his demise and the Rats who vote for it.
55 posted on 01/21/2009 4:36:34 PM PST by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: Roccus

hey dude...nobama is not even an african american...he is a closet muslim


56 posted on 01/21/2009 4:36:34 PM PST by ldish (God save the USA)
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To: MindBender26
Something wicked this way comes,
An Evil descends upon the land.
Upon the home of the Brave,
Land of the Free.

Our only salvation is to look to the Lord,
pray.

This is going to be a long, long 4 years. Hopefully, at the end of four years, there will be enough survivors to rebuild America.

57 posted on 01/21/2009 4:37:20 PM PST by Lurking in Kansas (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: MindBender26
Obama has no choice.

He must snatch defeat from the jaws of victory as soon as possible so that he can blame it on Bush.

58 posted on 01/21/2009 4:37:39 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Crisis - America Held Hostage)
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To: ottbmare
Sometimes you have to wonder what’s going on in God’s mind.

I'll bet He says the same thing about us.

59 posted on 01/21/2009 4:37:39 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: MindBender26
Words fail me...

Liberals are so concerned with killing unborn children, grabbing guns, ousting religion from every corner of society, destroying the family, indoctrinating the young and impressionable, fawning over their supposed "green" tendencies (BARF!!!), and just generally living lives of immorality and degeneracy that they cannot see how counter-intuitive their own anti-American, anti-military policies are...

When the muzzies come over looking to force sharia law on everyone, THEN, and ONLY then, will the left-wing LIBTARDS understand how F***ING IGNORANT they have been all along...

60 posted on 01/21/2009 4:37:50 PM PST by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Democrats: Seeking an easy life at someone else's expense for 150 years")
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To: NYRepublican72

Are you surprised at what obama did?


61 posted on 01/21/2009 4:37:53 PM PST by sport
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To: ldish

Read the book. In the end , we win.


62 posted on 01/21/2009 4:38:36 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: ldish

God is about to reign down justice upon America. The people of the land have elected the most evil man to ever occupy the WH. Now, let the judgement begin. I fear for America, I really do, because His wrath will be mighty and fearsome.


63 posted on 01/21/2009 4:39:19 PM PST by pctech
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To: MindBender26

Does anyone really expect our affirmative action president to be an expert in military strategy? I wonder if he has ever even held a firearm in his hand.


64 posted on 01/21/2009 4:40:46 PM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: MindBender26

The last two words were the best ones!!

Meanwhile in that part of the world, terrorist groups are lickin’ their chops getting ready to pounce on our soil, AGAIN!!!

And just like Bubba did in 1993, O will take a pass cause it’s more important to take care of people who sit on their ass, spit babies out and brag that work is aboue them especially when they can get away with it!


65 posted on 01/21/2009 4:40:46 PM PST by cleveland gop (Jack Bauer is back!!! Are you in a FLANK 2 position???)
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To: MindBender26

This is to placate his lunatic fringe base. I will believe it when the last troop leaves Iraq.


66 posted on 01/21/2009 4:41:37 PM PST by libh8er
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To: silent_jonny
Isn’t the drawdown scheduled for mid 2010 anyway?

That's what I thought.

67 posted on 01/21/2009 4:41:43 PM PST by Krodg
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To: Old Sarge
We in the national Guard were just talking about this on duty today. We are so screwed.

The swearing in of constitutionally-ineligible non-natural born poseurs to POTUS have consequences, don't they, Sarge??? Did you really think that the taking of the "oaph of office" would change his heart????

68 posted on 01/21/2009 4:42:21 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: ldish
hey dude...nobama is not even an african american...he is a closet muslim

#1...I'm not your dude

#2...you sure you meant that as a reply to my post?

69 posted on 01/21/2009 4:42:27 PM PST by Roccus (I am a RINO...............I am a Conservative.)
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To: sport
Are you surprised at what obama did?

No, 0bama is a leftist, who has to pander to the moonbat wing of the Democrapic party that voted him to his coronation yesterday.

He doesn't understand or have any reverence for the military and what it takes to defend our freedom and our way of life.

His next act will be to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell," and allow homosexuals to openly serve.

It's going to be a sad four years.

70 posted on 01/21/2009 4:42:46 PM PST by NYRepublican72
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To: MindBender26
When the bloodbath starts in Iraq it is all Obama’s (The Telprompter Jesus's) fault. He does not care about Iraqis or their future.
71 posted on 01/21/2009 4:43:41 PM PST by mickey finn
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To: Logical me

less military less republican votes especially in swing states.

Bush should have increased the military


72 posted on 01/21/2009 4:44:15 PM PST by manc (Marriage is between a man and a woman no sick MA,CT sham marriage end racism end affirmative action)
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To: MindBender26
So, today we learned:
closing Gitmo
signing the Freedom of Choice Act
over turning the Defense of Marriage Act
changing Don't Ask Don't Tell
surrendering in Iraq and Afghanistan
supporting homosexual marriage
Did I forget anything for the first full day of the dismantling of the USA?
73 posted on 01/21/2009 4:45:42 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: MindBender26

On top of all the other points made about this- any specific time table just tells the enemy they only need to hang on or lay low for that amount of time and then we won’t be there to stop them. I cannot imagine anyone thinking there can be a specific time table for a war or aftermath issues of war for that matter. Common sense should tell anyone that we need to make a very careful withdraw of forces, leaving enough in place to handle issues that might arise until some point in the future. To announce now a specific time is asinine- there is no way to know what will be happening during that time frame.

I am especially sick about Obama’s attitude and plans for the War on Terror- my son-in-law deploys in March and to think that the decision maker of the war is now Obama is a nightmare.


74 posted on 01/21/2009 4:45:51 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: pctech

The American people have earned well the wrath of God.


75 posted on 01/21/2009 4:46:28 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: svcw
Rats also forgot talks with iran and the thugs from the area called palestine.
76 posted on 01/21/2009 4:47:07 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: NYRepublican72

“He doesn’t understand or have any reverence for the military and what it takes to defend our freedom and our way of life. “

In my opinion,he doesn’t give a damn would be a better explanation than he does understand.

I believe that he understands perfectly, but doesn’t care.

But since I am not an obamsa fan I could be wrong.


77 posted on 01/21/2009 4:49:03 PM PST by sport
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To: MindBender26

Wait wait wait...am i missing something here??? i thought victory was already declared in Iraq...their govt has taken the reins, yes? can someone explain, pls?


78 posted on 01/21/2009 4:49:39 PM PST by MountainWoman
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To: MindBender26

Then he’s just sealed his legacy as the President who lost the war on terror, and the war in Iraq.


79 posted on 01/21/2009 4:49:59 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: svcw
So, today we learned: closing Gitmo signing the Freedom of Choice Act over turning the Defense of Marriage Act changing Don't Ask Don't Tell surrendering in Iraq and Afghanistan supporting homosexual marriage Did I forget anything for the first full day of the dismantling of the USA?

The swearing in of constitutionally-ineligible non-natural born poseurs to POTUS have consequences, don't they????

80 posted on 01/21/2009 4:50:07 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: MindBender26

That worthless POS.


81 posted on 01/21/2009 4:50:19 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: MindBender26
BO needs the troops back at home to put down the insurrection that sure to happen once he tries to implement his socialist agenda!
82 posted on 01/21/2009 4:50:27 PM PST by Irishhighlander
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To: silent_jonny

My understanding of the plan before this was to gradually remove forces as circumstances allowed with no definate time table- just a tenative time frame. This sounds like there is a firm time frame and that will encourage the enemy to hang on or wait us out.


83 posted on 01/21/2009 4:51:28 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Uncle Chip

You betcha.


84 posted on 01/21/2009 4:51:28 PM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: penelopesire
Hey penelopesire,

My understanding is that there will be some Tropps left. Not all are coming out.

I think what is bad and we are not catching here, is that all offensive measures will be stopped. We should be keeping the enemy off balance and the way to do that is by attacking.

Yes, he is going to destroy our Nation, but we must keep from looking like we have Obama Derangement Syndrome. I don't think this is going to be easy, because this guy is going to stand on our only nerve.

So, it is true that we must get mad, but we have to keep from looking like we are deranged.

85 posted on 01/21/2009 4:52:41 PM PST by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. - One of General Abram's men)
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To: Repeal The 17th

> I wonder if he has ever even held a firearm in his hand.

To rob a liquor store, maybe? Who knows? Nobody knows what he was really up to all those years.


86 posted on 01/21/2009 4:53:24 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: svcw
Did I forget anything for the first full day of the dismantling of the USA?

Yeah, revoking President Bush's EO on re-investigating those chosen to hold America's trust.

87 posted on 01/21/2009 4:54:12 PM PST by Krodg
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To: penelopesire
Well, it was everything but a hard timetable:

Pact, Approved in Iraq, Sets Time for U.S. Pullout

By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON and STEPHEN FARRELL New York Times Published: November 16, 2008

BAGHDAD — Iraq’s cabinet on Sunday overwhelmingly approved a proposed security agreement that calls for a full withdrawal of American forces from the country by the end of 2011. The cabinet’s decision brings a final date for the departure of American troops a significant step closer after more than five and a half years of war.

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The proposed agreement, which took nearly a year to negotiate with the United States, not only sets a date for American troop withdrawal, but puts new restrictions on American combat operations in Iraq starting Jan. 1 and requires an American military pullback from urban areas by June 30. Those hard dates reflect a significant concession by the departing Bush administration, which had been publicly averse to timetables.

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In Washington, the White House welcomed the vote as “an important and positive step” and attributed the agreement itself to security improvements in the past year.

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As I said, things were pretty much worked out, The Big O is just trying to take the credit.

88 posted on 01/21/2009 4:54:42 PM PST by JennysCool (Internet Powerhouse)
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To: MindBender26

We,[ I] knew it would happen.

I voted gainst him but more people voted for him.

Sooner, rather than later, the changes that the sorry sobs that voted for obams to do enact are going to negatively effect them personally.

Whoever came up with the phrase,”What you don’t know won’t hurt you” is full of crap. What you don’t know can and usually does hurt you very, very badly.


89 posted on 01/21/2009 4:56:34 PM PST by sport
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To: MindBender26
The war, in essence, is already won by us and the Iraqi people. This is just feel-good frosting on the cake.
90 posted on 01/21/2009 4:58:55 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: MindBender26
All Brigates Out In 16 Months.

There is no link.

What is a "Brigate"?

91 posted on 01/21/2009 4:59:54 PM PST by humblegunner (Where my PIE at, fool?)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority

I so hope not. I love my country.


92 posted on 01/21/2009 5:00:06 PM PST by Shyla
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To: JennysCool

Bears repeating:

“Cool down, y’all. This is pretty much what the Bush Administration had planned, anyway.

Obama’s just trying to get some credit for doing it.

Thousands of support troops will remain to look after our interests.”

Thing is, only the aware people know that this is exactly what GW had set up already. From this thread, even most freepers apparently don’t know. The MSM certainly hasn’t covered it. They MSM will now re-cast recent history to show that obama was the one who got us out of a war that GW screwed up all the way to the end. That’s also how the leftscum who infest our “education” aka indoctrination institutes will spin it, too.


93 posted on 01/21/2009 5:00:23 PM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
I am an American, and I have not earned the wrath of God, except in the sense that all have sinned and earned the wrath of God. If there's a divine punishment, let it fall on Obama.
94 posted on 01/21/2009 5:00:28 PM PST by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: JennysCool

He has found a giant loophole:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2169157/posts

“With regard to U.S. force levels in Iraq, a newly enacted agreement between Washington and Baghdad sets the legal framework for a timeline of withdrawal. The status-of-forces agreement, which became effective Jan. 1, stipulates that American combat forces pull back from cities and villages to major bases by June 30, 2009.

The deal also calls for all American troops to vacate Iraq by the last day of 2011, though officials point out that a withdrawal timeline is subject to change according to political circumstances.”

By ‘political circumstances’, I am sure they mean their own leftist political base..not any politics in Iraq.

We are screwed and so is our country. MARK MY WORD...Iraq will start blowing up within weeks as the Afghan jihadees pour back into Iraq just as Biden and Obama start sending all of our troops to Afghanistan.


95 posted on 01/21/2009 5:01:07 PM PST by penelopesire ("The only CHANGE you will get with the Democrats is the CHANGE left in your pocket")
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To: MindBender26
I think I'm going to cry again....what a week - and it's only Wednesday.
96 posted on 01/21/2009 5:01:46 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: MindBender26

Actually his two biggest financiers are Baathists who want to bring back the Baath Party.

Pray for America, Our Troops and Obama’s Guidance


97 posted on 01/21/2009 5:02:44 PM PST by bray (He ran on Hope and Change, we got More and Same)
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To: JennysCool

Bears repeating:

“Cool down, y’all. This is pretty much what the Bush Administration had planned, anyway.

Obama’s just trying to get some credit for doing it.

Thousands of support troops will remain to look after our interests.”

Thing is, only the aware people know that this is exactly what GW had set up already. From this thread, even most freepers apparently don’t know. The MSM certainly hasn’t covered it. They MSM will now re-cast recent history to show that obama was the one who got us out of a war that GW screwed up all the way to the end. That’s also how the leftscum who infest our “education” aka indoctrination institutes will spin it, too.


98 posted on 01/21/2009 5:03:37 PM PST by piytar (Atlas is Shrugging. I am Atlas.)
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To: pctech

The Republican Party, who are now in the process of surrendering to Obama in Washington(see John McCain). Are about to find out that elections,truly do have consequences.Obama made no secret of his desire to surrender in Iraq. Nor did he make a secret of his desire to close Gitmo, which he is also doing. Even so, the America people looking to a Socialist to lead them to the Promised Land and Economic Freedom(Freedom to not Pay bills,including Taxes).Well, now they have him and we’re all going to pay very,very Dearly for it..


99 posted on 01/21/2009 5:05:37 PM PST by dbrew2u
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To: MindBender26

Lessee now, I know a young man that was in my son’s unit after serving his combat time in Iraq was discharged, finished his degree and just got a notice to report back on active duty and looks like he will be heading to Afghanistan. He’s RA by the way, not NG.

Meanwhile, this yellow-bellied Kenyan is sending all sorts of weak signals to our enemy. This clown does NOT have a clue at all, which makes the most dangerous kind.


100 posted on 01/21/2009 5:05:38 PM PST by brushcop (We remember SSG Harrison Brown, PVT Andrew Simmons B CO 2/69 3ID KIA Iraq OIF IV)
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