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NSA Spied on US Journalists And You!
The Liberty Papers ^ | 1/21/09

Posted on 01/22/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by steve-b

Here's a chilling interview of former NSA analyst Russell Tice conducted by Keith Olbermann. While I'm not the biggest Olbermann fan in the world, he asked some important questions about how far the NSA went during the Bush administration. It's a chilling interview. Hopefully restraining the NSA to 4th Amendment boundaries will be a priority for the Obama administration.

And while we are talking about privacy, we also need to keep the government out of the panties of our 13-year-old daughters and our private health records, too.


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1 posted on 01/22/2009 6:17:20 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b

I’m sure the person assigned to spy on me is bored stiff.


2 posted on 01/22/2009 6:20:55 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: steve-b

What’s the deal posting Keith olbermann articles? The guy gives pond scum a bad name.


3 posted on 01/22/2009 6:21:33 AM PST by ohioman
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To: Islander7

Hey, don’t sell yourself short. There was some juicy stuff there! :-)


4 posted on 01/22/2009 6:24:26 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Back in black? White on rice? More redheads for the man? What???)
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To: steve-b

Pish Posh! Americans are more worried about “Speed Cams”.


5 posted on 01/22/2009 6:25:06 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: steve-b

So we elect a potential communist dictator to help guide us to a more fair and balance direction?????


6 posted on 01/22/2009 6:25:25 AM PST by classified
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To: steve-b

Well, if the NSA under President Bush did a bit of snooping on Americans, I’d bet we ain’t seen nothing yet.


7 posted on 01/22/2009 6:25:55 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Islander7

“I’m sure the person assigned to spy on me is bored stiff.”

Not really, I have many other cases assigned to watch over.

By the way, your computer screen looks dusty from here, you may want to get some of that computer screen cleaner at Target.


8 posted on 01/22/2009 6:28:30 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (I can't wait for January 20, 2013")
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To: Smokin' Joe

odumbo’s making a list, and checking it twice...


9 posted on 01/22/2009 6:28:30 AM PST by Canedawg (Lincoln freed the slaves, BO will free the terrorists.)
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To: steve-b

No Such Agency has always been kind of creepy. They’ve done nasty evil stuff during every administration.


10 posted on 01/22/2009 6:29:18 AM PST by dilvish
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To: steve-b

If you are expected to catch terrorists in your net, you have to also look at the lives of innocent citizens. Many are innocent, but act suspicious, while a few are terrorists who act innocent. What else can you do but apply the filters to their lives to sort them all out? Unless you advocate letting terrorists freely move amongst us to preserve your privacy.


11 posted on 01/22/2009 6:32:06 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: steve-b

Keith Olbermann, girl panties- good search words to fit together.

This guy is gonna love it when O’s army descends on his household to sign up his daughter for volunteer service. He’d probably be amazed how much information O’s people know about him. and it wasnt gathered looking for terrorism..


12 posted on 01/22/2009 6:32:45 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: steve-b

I’ll really start worrying when they learn how to tap the POTS quietly; those clicks are sort of reassuring...


13 posted on 01/22/2009 6:37:00 AM PST by snarks_when_bored
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To: HereInTheHeartland

How does my hair look? Is the cut me or what?


14 posted on 01/22/2009 6:39:19 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Islander7

No Such Agency.


15 posted on 01/22/2009 6:39:19 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: steve-b
This is idiocy:

“NSA had access to every telephone call in the US.” So does every telephone company repairman with a buttset on his hip!

“Oh, my God. They were listening to JOURNALISTS!” Trust me, they were not listening to Ann Landers. Imagine the manpower necessary to do that. If a journalist was talking to a terrorist, I am SO glad they monitored the conversation.

“Oh my God. They were listening to US citizens.” If US citizens were talking to terrorists, I'm so glad they did listen.

Bottom line of interview; Tice knows nothing. Olbermann and the NTY were simply trying to create an anti-Bush story where one did not exist. Foolish Bush took the bait and tried to explain it, rather than saying; “Tough sh*t. There is a war on. If you think it's more important for your peperoni-ordering conversation to be secret than for American to not be killed, then go invent some country where you can have that.”

16 posted on 01/22/2009 6:40:54 AM PST by MindBender26 (ATTN: Rev. Lowery: Sorry 'bout that, but I am White, and I got it Right years ago!)
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To: Larry Lucido; steve-b
Under the Obama administration, the NSA will be instructed to stop spying on Islamic jihadis and Communist traitors, and exclusively restrict their monitoring to right-wingers critical of Obama, and dangerous militia types.

The spying will be increased, but because the targets will be the politically incorrect, the MSM will show no interest.

17 posted on 01/22/2009 6:41:02 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (We used to institutionalize the insane. Now we elect them.)
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To: steve-b
Horse Sh!t! This is leftist dribble and anti-Bush propaganda to promote the sharia take over of America.

LLS

18 posted on 01/22/2009 6:41:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: PapaBear3625; sit-rep; Squantos; Eaker

Time to start thinking of countermeasures.


19 posted on 01/22/2009 6:47:22 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Back in black? White on rice? More redheads for the man? What???)
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To: steve-b
Just wait until they get the ‘black-box’ converters fully installed... The cable guys will monitor what we do when we are not talking on the phone.... and then there will be nobody watching Ober. /s partially.
20 posted on 01/22/2009 6:48:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Islander7

“How does my hair look? Is the cut me or what?”

Yawn.... By the way, when are you going to finish that book? Been sitting on your night table for months now.


21 posted on 01/22/2009 6:56:15 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("Control the information, you control the people.")
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To: steve-b

What’s the scoop on the Lefty Hard-on for xNSA analyst Russell Tice? I am always sceptical of the Lefty Whistleblowers...not that they would have any bias???


22 posted on 01/22/2009 6:58:15 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: Kirkwood

**Unless you advocate letting terrorists freely move amongst us to preserve your privacy.**

I advocate exactly that if it does not facilitate the expansion of secret investigations of innocent people. I reference a twentieth century western European power that did something similar...


23 posted on 01/22/2009 7:01:51 AM PST by sydcart
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To: steve-b

“The controversy following revelations that U.S. intelligence agencies have monitored suspected terrorist related communications since 9/11 reflects a severe case of selective amnesia by the New York Times and other media opponents of President Bush. They certainly didn’t show the same outrage when a much more invasive and indiscriminate domestic surveillance program came to light during the Clinton administration in the 1990’s. At that time, the Times called the surveillance ‘a necessity.’”


24 posted on 01/22/2009 7:03:02 AM PST by NavVet ( If you don't defend Conservatism in the Primaries, you won't have it to defend in November)
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To: Kirkwood
you have to also look at the lives of innocent citizens.

Not unless you want to live in a land of slaves. Disgusting, base, and shameful, this supine welcome to a police state. No such country is worth defending.

25 posted on 01/22/2009 7:03:26 AM PST by Romulus ("Ira enim viri iustitiam Dei non operatur")
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To: steve-b

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2006/01/getting_to_the_bottom_of_the_n.html

Fair and balanced


26 posted on 01/22/2009 7:05:18 AM PST by BARLF
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To: steve-b

Tice...whistleblower ? or traitor ( He leaked the wiretap story to NYT)


27 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:54 AM PST by stylin19a (I listen to the voices in my golf bag)
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To: steve-b

I agree with keeping the government out of the panties of your 13 year old. But hey, let’s go a little further. I want the government out of my bathroom so I install and use whatever type of toilet I want to use. I want the government out of my kitchen so I can eat whatever I want. I want the government out of my living room so I can enjoy whatever program without a warning label. I want the government away from my radio so I can listen to whoever I want to. I want the government out of my den so I can use my computer any way I want. I want the government out of my yard so I can remove anything I want or plant/build anything I want. I want the government out of my car so I can with or without seatbelts or smoke in it if I want to. Are you getting the picture?


28 posted on 01/22/2009 7:06:56 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: steve-b

I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.

Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.

I doubt it has changed since I was in the program


29 posted on 01/22/2009 7:11:52 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: steve-b

I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.

Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.

I doubt it has changed since I was in the program


30 posted on 01/22/2009 7:11:58 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: steve-b

I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.

Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.

I doubt it has changed since I was in the program


31 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:17 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: steve-b

I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.

Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.

I doubt it has changed since I was in the program


32 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:18 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: steve-b

I bet those copied were calls to overseas locations from the states rather than within the states.
I doubt the entire story was told to create a scandal.

Far too many members of NSA know what the law about monitoring communications within the states is for the FBI. But NSA has the responsibility for all calls to and from overseas.

I doubt it has changed since I was in the program


33 posted on 01/22/2009 7:12:18 AM PST by spookie (SPOOKIE)
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To: Larry Lucido

If you staple the tin-foil it won’t blow off your head in the wind!


34 posted on 01/22/2009 7:14:45 AM PST by Eaker (All bow to the baby killing, muslim Kenyan Klown.)
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To: steve-b

Something doesn’t smell right with this Tice moron.

Anybody have a full bio on him? Dates, etc.?

His statements about what he works and what he knows don’t jive. Plus I can’t see the NSA keeping him on after revoking his security clearance just to pump gas and be a chauffer. Hell of a salary to be paid as an Intel Analyst to do that stuff. If he was the source of a security breach they should have fired him on the spot.

Still, he’s got a sweet gig going on. Keep flitting from liberal interviewer to liberal interviewer, drop key phrases to cause frothing at the mouth (evesdrop on US citizens, retaliation, Bush) and then tell everyone, well, sorry, I can’t get into specifics because they’ll throw me in jail. Next.


35 posted on 01/22/2009 7:19:46 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Support your local brewery. Take a drink everytime the Democrats mention 'children')
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To: steve-b

The NSA spying on American citizens is well known as in, for example, its eavesdropping of international personal calls of American soldiers to their families. Hopefully, now that Republcans are out of power, more conservatives will start finally caaring about this.


36 posted on 01/22/2009 7:21:49 AM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“...Yawn.... By the way, when are you going to finish that book? Been sitting on your night table for months now...”

Ha! What’s title?

BTW. I don’t have night table.

Wipe that smirk off your face.


37 posted on 01/22/2009 7:24:15 AM PST by Islander7 (This Atlas is shrugging! ~ I am Joe!)
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To: Romulus

I would hope they have my profile on their computers. An FBI guy does the security clearance interviews and is typically way late. And their handwriting is really bad. They all better have me on their servers. I work on chit that requires a clearance. It’s a good resume` enhancement to have a clearance.


38 posted on 01/22/2009 7:25:12 AM PST by BobS
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To: classified

Yeah, a would be communist dictator who already is appointing his hench men to put limits on the bill of rights. I was reading some of the blogs this morning and came across a video of Holder, during the Clinton administration, advocating censorship of the internet. He also supports the fairness doctrine, and national gun licensing.


39 posted on 01/22/2009 7:37:51 AM PST by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: steve-b

You know the guy that runs the lab at Area-51 in the movie “Independence Day”?

80% of NSA employees are JUST LIKE THAT.

The x-employees with enough of a grudge to talk? Those people make that guy look socially normal.

Consider the source.


40 posted on 01/22/2009 7:52:10 AM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: ziravan

“Consider the source.”

If you don’t want to consider the source of the information, then consider the source of the reporting medium.

Dubious combined with dubious equals dubious squared.


41 posted on 01/22/2009 7:54:00 AM PST by ziravan (Hiring a democrat to cut taxes is like hiring a pedophile to babysit.)
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To: steve-b

Total BS from the fevered swamp of Olbermann.


42 posted on 01/22/2009 8:01:49 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: Kirkwood
Unless you advocate letting terrorists freely move amongst us to preserve your privacy.

And that, ladies and germs, is the precise issue. There is a balance between liberty and security. Virtually any policy, idea, or change in the law move this equilibrium to either side of this sliding scale. Most of our policy-makers, and most American voters, seem to be very intent on increasing security, at the cost of "just a little liberty here and there". Drip, drip, drip... every day, it drips away. =^(

43 posted on 01/22/2009 8:07:22 AM PST by Teacher317 (wo xue zhong wen)
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To: Eaker

What are you, crazy?

I use velcro.


44 posted on 01/22/2009 8:28:38 AM PST by Larry Lucido (Back in black? White on rice? More redheads for the man? What???)
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To: steve-b

If they were monitoring a few democrat party propagandists who were helping terrorists I don’t care. The idea that they have the time, inclination or even computing/database power to track all of us is ridiculous. Can they feed all of the calls, emails etc they have access to through filters to screen for key words and phrases? Yep, but there is no database or datacenter large enough to do much else. People are not listening in or viewing all of that traffic, computers are and if the data stream does not contain any of the words and phrases they are interested in then the data stream is discarded, NOT STORED. Even the data of interest that is sent on for further screening is discarded if nothing is found. There are not enough employees in the entire federal government to actively and personally track even a fraction of the data streams.


45 posted on 01/22/2009 8:48:09 AM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: steve-b
You are not even a big fan of the Fuhrer? If you are ANY fan of this pig slime, move over to DU. You'd be more at home there.
46 posted on 01/22/2009 8:50:12 AM PST by RetiredArmy ("When a politician masquerades as a messiah, be very afraid." (nicely said in article))
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To: dilvish
What infantile garbage. From the Church Commission till 9/11 the CIA and FBI have been paper-pushing desk jockeys who weren't allowed to do anything. They couldn't infiltrate, use human resources or wear plaid ties. All the spooky, scary, agents who inhabit the shadows and know all, live in the movies provided by Left-wing Hollywood and the minds conspiracy idiots.

I wish they were a fraction as "evil" as the idiot population believes, then we might have known the USSR was about to collapse and, oh, yeah...radical Islam had declared war on us.

47 posted on 01/22/2009 8:57:48 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

It’s not infantile anything. Nobody really knows what the hell the NSA does, their very mission statement was classified for a long time, that right there should creep you out. We know they sniff communications, we don’t know how, we don’t know which, we just know that they specialized in intercepted communications and we’re told their SUPPOSED to not monitor domestic communications but that every few some story comes out that indeed the do monitor domestic communications.

If that doesn’t scare you, you’re not thinking. Remember the government is not your friend, and the more secretive the section of the government in question is the more not your friend it is.


48 posted on 01/22/2009 9:49:46 AM PST by dilvish
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To: dilvish

Oh, pulease. What a load of garbage. Like I said, I wish our intelligence agencies were as super scary as people like you think they are.


49 posted on 01/22/2009 10:00:22 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: Deb

No garbage in there at all. And may your wish never ever come true. That’s probably the single most dangerous wish anybody has ever wished.


50 posted on 01/22/2009 10:01:21 AM PST by dilvish
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