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The Catholic Thing ^ | Friday, 23 January 2009 | Mary Eberstadt

Posted on 01/23/2009 6:33:47 AM PST by sitetest

Today, readers, we interrupt revisiting the Seven Deadly Sins to raise a question of great significance during this eventful week. Why did Archbishop Donald Wuerl, the highest-ranking Catholic eminence in the Washington, D.C. area, attend Wednesday’s ostentatiously diverse, mega-denominational prayer service at the National Cathedral for President Obama?

Granted, the fanfare was impressive – seats for 3,200 distinguished guests, twenty especially prominent religious leaders, heart-rending bursts of song, and a liturgy ranging from the latest rewritings of the Book of Common Prayer to “Hindu, Jewish, Muslim, and Cherokee sources, among others,” as The Washington Post put it. It’s also true that the Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington traditionally leads a prayer at these august proceedings – which may for some observers render his presence there beyond question.

But the unique visibility of this event – which was presumably foremost in the minds of the archdiocesan officials who signed on to yesterday’s arrangements – also cuts another, more radical way. It means that a non-attending Roman Catholic archbishop of Washington would be missed, were he somehow to decline to appear. And that is exactly the point. He could have.

Why? As readers of TCT know well, our new president is the most unyielding, ideologically determined, and dogmatically pro-abortion leader yet to have assumed the highest office in our land. Our new vice-president is perhaps the most conspicuous practicing Catholic in the land, certainly such by his own repeated insistence, and is almost as conspicuous as our new president in his fidelity to the metaphysics of Roe vs. Wade.

The revamped White House website already boasts of the new administration’s arguably unrivalled support of Roe’s legacy, noting for example that Obama “has been a consistent champion of reproductive choice and will make preserving women's rights under Roe v. Wade a priority...”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecatholicthing.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: abortion; catholic; obama; wuerl
I searched for this but didn't find it. If this is a duplicate, my apologies.
1 posted on 01/23/2009 6:33:47 AM PST by sitetest
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To: sitetest; Coleus; narses; Salvation; cpforlife.org

Ping.


2 posted on 01/23/2009 6:34:33 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest
I'm not particularly a big fan of the D.C. Archbishop. however, I believe that the Church should stay engaged and remind President Obama on every possible occasion of the grave consequences for society that flow from abortion. You can't persuade if you don't stay in the game. And I know there is a delicate balance because the Church does not want to be viewed as endorsing a pro-abortion President.

Think of it this way -- every time President Obama sees a pro-life priest, bishop or cardinal, he is gently reminded of his positions contrary to life. That's how the Holy Spirit moves -- with a gentle whisper rather than a shout.

3 posted on 01/23/2009 6:39:06 AM PST by CWW (Palin & Jindal in 2012!!)
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To: cgk; MHGinTN

Ping.


4 posted on 01/23/2009 6:39:35 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: CWW
Dear CWW,

As the rest of the column points out, Archbishop Wuerl could have sent a priest in his stead. I'd have sent a transitional deacon (a seminarian in his final year before ordination) or a permanent deacon.

That would have made a much louder statement to the anti-Christ Obama and his apostate side-kick, Moron Joe.


sitetest

5 posted on 01/23/2009 6:41:20 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

Because the Roman Bureaucracy has been slipping and sliding all over the theological landscape whenever it was convenient vis a vis the rulers concerned . . .

for the entire 1600 years of it’s existence.


6 posted on 01/23/2009 6:45:40 AM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: sitetest

Political Correctness is the Death of this Republic.


7 posted on 01/23/2009 6:45:44 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli now reads "Oil the gun..eat the cannolis.")
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To: CWW
Think of it this way -- every time President Obama sees a pro-life priest, bishop or cardinal, he is gently reminded of his positions contrary to life. That's how the Holy Spirit moves -- with a gentle whisper rather than a shout.

But sin clouds the intellect, leaving little hope that Obama will be reminded of anything at all. It is long past time for gentle reminders. Where are the bishops who are willing to use a bullhorn?

8 posted on 01/23/2009 6:46:28 AM PST by Lorica
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To: CWW
there is another way of looking at his attendance. That is, to recognize the many Catholics who supported Obama - I think I read 75% of Catholic votes went to Obama.
9 posted on 01/23/2009 6:56:42 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: elpadre
Dear elpadre,

The anti-Christ Obama only received about 54% of the Catholic vote, not 75%. And less of actual church-going Catholics.


sitetest

10 posted on 01/23/2009 6:59:45 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: elpadre
sorry - that was 75% of Jewish vote went to Obama. But a preponderance of Catholic voters did go to Obama.
11 posted on 01/23/2009 6:59:51 AM PST by elpadre (nation)
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To: Lorica
Dear Lorica,

Your post reminds me of the comments of Flannery O'Connor about the hard of hearing and shouting.


sitetest

12 posted on 01/23/2009 7:00:59 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Don Corleone

Dear Don Corleone,

I’m not sure there’s much of a republic left here.

sitetest


13 posted on 01/23/2009 7:01:50 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: CWW
Think of it this way -- every time President Obama sees a pro-life priest, bishop or cardinal, he is gently reminded of his positions contrary to life. That's how the Holy Spirit moves -- with a gentle whisper rather than a shout.

Surely the Holy Spirit was with the 250,000 marchers yesterday. Obama didn't seem to see them; he surely isn't going to "see" the Archbishop. The only way he will "see" him is if he makes a scene.

15 posted on 01/23/2009 7:08:03 AM PST by Neverforget01
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To: CWW

I think the reaction is exactly the opposite when seeing a Bishop or Cardinal at one of these events. They think this attendance means being pro-life doesn’t matter.


17 posted on 01/23/2009 7:13:34 AM PST by Varda
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To: sitetest

I don’t know how to pronounce the archbishop’s name but I’m going to assume it rhymes with “hurl.”


18 posted on 01/23/2009 7:19:46 AM PST by Oratam
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To: Oratam

You got it.


19 posted on 01/23/2009 7:40:11 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Varda
Dear Varda,

I think that you're exactly right.

That's why I like the idea of sending a deacon, or at most, a priest, in the archbishop's place.


sitetest

20 posted on 01/23/2009 7:41:41 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Morgana
I am a 61yr old retired RN who had the misfortune of witnessing a couple of saline abortions when I was a student nurse. The sight of the dead babies will be forever engraved in my mind. But for some Catholics it just doesn't matter. Go figure.
21 posted on 01/23/2009 7:46:32 AM PST by k omalley (Caro Enim Mea, Vere est Cibus, et Sanguis Meus, Vere est Potus)
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To: sitetest

There’s a republic in the sense of the final days of the Roman Republic.


22 posted on 01/23/2009 7:50:55 AM PST by ichabod1 (Change is not a destination, Hope is not a strategy)
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To: sitetest

**Today, readers, we interrupt revisiting the Seven Deadly Sins to raise a question of great significance during this eventful week. Why did Archbishop Donald Wuerl, the highest-ranking Catholic eminence in the Washington, D.C. area, attend Wednesday’s ostentatiously diverse, mega-denominational prayer service at the National Cathedral for President Obama?**

I wondered why also.

But who was the cardinal there?


23 posted on 01/23/2009 8:04:05 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: elpadre

Wrong numbers. It was first report that 55 percent of Catholics voted for Obama.

That was reduced to 48 percent later. Please don’t repeat the falsehoods.

Additionally, no REAL Catholic voted for Obama; only CINOs voted for him — Catholic in Name Only.

They excommunicated themselves by supporting abortion, in fact, any Catholic who supports any demoncrat does so.

These CINOs must go to Confession; they can not receive Communion worthily until they do.

It is a sin to support abortion.


24 posted on 01/23/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: sitetest

I agree that someone in a lower position would have been better if the intention of the Bishop had been to highlight Catholic teaching. Archbishop Wuerl is not IMO someone who would do that.


25 posted on 01/23/2009 8:13:34 AM PST by Varda
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To: CWW

I thought it was strange yesterday that the mass at the Basilica it was Bishop Loverde of Arlington, VA (my diocese) who gave the homily, not Archbishop Wuerl. Seems like Wuerl may be much more included to play politics, which is not what the Church needs right now.


26 posted on 01/23/2009 8:22:42 AM PST by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: Crolis

Whoops. I meant to type “inclined” not “included”. Heh. Need more caffeine this morning.


27 posted on 01/23/2009 8:25:18 AM PST by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: ichabod1
Dear ichabod1,

My current working theory is that we're likely in the transitional stage from republic to empire.


sitetest

28 posted on 01/23/2009 8:26:16 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Salvation
That was reduced to 48 percent later. Please don’t repeat the falsehoods.

Can you please document that?

Although it's an outrageously high fraction, IT IS NOT A MAJORITY.

Certain Anticatholic ranters and ravers have had much to say about a majority of Catholics voting for Zero. If that's false, they need to be made aware of it.

29 posted on 01/23/2009 8:27:21 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Crolis

Archbishop Wuerl was offering the Mass at the Verizon Center. Now I know why Bishop Loverde was represented at the VC by a chancery drone ... he himself was at the Basilica.


30 posted on 01/23/2009 8:29:33 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Can’t document it since it was on a thread on FR and I don’t remember what the title of it was.

I’ll search for it later. Am off to church to set up for Mass and say the complete Rosary (all 20 decades) — do it every Friday morning.


31 posted on 01/23/2009 8:36:25 AM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: ArrogantBustard

Ah..makes sense...I had thought the Verizon center Mass would occur later. At least a few years ago when I attended it seemed to be later on in the day. My recollection is fuzzy though.

Thanks for the heads up.


32 posted on 01/23/2009 8:56:43 AM PST by Crolis (Kill your television!)
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To: sitetest

When you can assume that your audience holds the same beliefs you do, you can relax a little and use more normal ways of talking to it; when you have to assume that it does not, then you have to make your vision apparent by shock — to the hard of hearing you shout, and for the blind you draw large and startling figures.

— Flannery O’Connor


33 posted on 01/23/2009 9:14:21 AM PST by Lorica
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To: sitetest

I suspect the empire has been up for grabs for some time now... I had been hoping for a right-wing strong man who could put the left in their place - an Augustus sort of figure who could preserve some of the morality of the old Republic. At best, a Second American Republic.

Instead we’ve got a left winger who’s making lists of all the right wingers he’s going to have taken out and shot.


34 posted on 01/23/2009 10:00:31 AM PST by ichabod1 (Change is not a destination, Hope is not a strategy)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Here's what I found with Yahoo and Cathoogle tonight. Don't remember which one was an FR thread.

http://insidecatholic.com/Joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2871&Itemid=48
 
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/812/obamas-catholic-voter-problem
 
http://www.osv.com/OSVNav/OSVNewsweeklyNovember302008/ObamalostCatholicvotesinsomestates/tabid/7081/Default.aspx
 
 
http://www.gallup.com/poll/108382/Obama-Holds-Slim-Advantage-Over-McCain-Among-Catholics.aspx  Advantage Over McCain Among Catholics

Hispanic Catholics tip group in Obama’s favor

 
by Jeffrey M. Jones

PRINCETON, NJ -- Among major U.S. religious groups, Catholic voters are most closely divided in their presidential voting preferences, with Barack Obama holding a narrow 47% to 43% advantage over John McCain. McCain leads Obama among Protestants (48% to 41%) and Mormons (70% to 23%) while Obama holds the upper hand among Jewish voters (62% to 29%) and those with no religious affiliation (65% to 25%).

 
 

35 posted on 01/23/2009 10:49:39 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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