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Shock from killing ripples through Tech
New River Valley.com ^ | 23 January, 2009 | Greg Esposito

Posted on 01/24/2009 6:51:29 AM PST by marktwain

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There were a number of other people in the cafe. No one did anything, but maybe call the police, who arrived to late, as usual. All were disarmed as per school policy.
1 posted on 01/24/2009 6:51:33 AM PST by marktwain
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Seven people -- customers and Au Bon Pain staff -- saw the attack and fled the restaurant. Two people called 911.

As a Tech alumni, I heard that all of the people there--who fled--were actually young women, who could not do anything about the attack other than to call the cops.

2 posted on 01/24/2009 7:09:07 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: marktwain

...just doing the job American’s won’t do....


3 posted on 01/24/2009 7:17:35 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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...just doing the job American’s won’t do....

I have to disagree. It is more like he is becoming Americanized. All you have to do is check out the US domestic violence murder rate for citizens to know that.

4 posted on 01/24/2009 7:29:08 AM PST by staytrue (YES WE CAN, (everyone should get in the practice of saying it, it will soon be mandatory))
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I have to disagree. It is more like he is becoming Americanized. All you have to do is check out the US domestic violence murder rate for citizens to know that.

Nothing to do with America or Americanization. Asia has more than it's fair share of nut jobs.

5 posted on 01/24/2009 7:39:46 AM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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To: marktwain

The unfortunate victim’s family of this tragic event can sue the school for first disarming, then failing to protect her.


6 posted on 01/24/2009 7:46:28 AM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Disappointing to read the tone of these posts in Free Republic. I live 25 mins drive from Tech. My son is a high school senior and has been accepted...will be commuting from home. He is there today and tomorrow for an Honors Band Camp and I know although it’s “sad” as he put it on campus, everyone is continuing with life as normal as possible. And no, from what I understand classes were not cancelled, but many professors chose to dismiss or cancel on their own.

The female officer first on the scene got there in 1 min. from time of 911 call according to local reports. I cannot imagine the scene and have serious doubts the victim was not killed nearly instantly. My boss’es wife, a friend we saw the next evening and his daughter (the father was their during the Cho shooting) knew by 5:30pm, so word WAS around campus quickly. This is the 3rd instance of murder nearby. Everyone forgets Morva who killed the hospital security guard and Montgomery Co. deputy. He had been on campus first day of class that year.

I know the officers take this type of thing very, seriously. We had the other incident recently in Pulaski Co. with the Jaccard fellow who killed his neighbor, burned down his house, and shot one of our deputies who had a vest on thank God and is fine. Same swat teams that support Blacksburg support these surrounding areas. We’re in the country and it’s pretty eye opening to have such tragedies in our once quiet community. It’s no longer isolated to specific demographics away from here.

Shows more about what is happening in society than anything about an individual nationality or race. No one is able to deal with pressure and acts out inner rage. Even in this forum it seems.


7 posted on 01/24/2009 7:57:48 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: marktwain

Psych evals for all asian students....


8 posted on 01/24/2009 8:18:33 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: killjoy
"Asia has more than it's fair share of nut jobs."

I know it's never good to generalize, particularly about a specific group of people, so I make these observations only from my own personal experiences.

Over the years I worked with several Asians from Korea, China, Japan and the Philippines. They were all lovely people who would go out of their way to help you if you should need it, but the ones I knew also tended to be rather high strung perfectionists who often seemed on the verge of a minor breakdown, even when the cause of their distress turned out to be somewhat inconsequential in the scheme of things.

However, I guess I should emphasis that since I saw them only in a work environment, that probably had a distinct bearing on the certain behaviors of which I am commenting.

9 posted on 01/24/2009 8:40:11 AM PST by Mila
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We in VA are fighting every week to allow the right to carry arms on all VA schools.


10 posted on 01/24/2009 8:44:10 AM PST by bmwcyle (I have no President as of Jan 20th 2009. No Congress either.)
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>>”My roommates were like, ‘Why is it always us?’ she said.<<

1. Because you’re a bunch of cowardly, unarmed defenseless targets; and

2. you continue to support that kind of environment with your tuition payments

That’s why - moron.


11 posted on 01/24/2009 8:50:49 AM PST by castlebrew (Gun control means hitting where you intended to!)
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To: marktwain

A story about an attack and there is no description of the actual attack beyond it being a “disturbance”. What was seen, what was heard by witnesses? Great journalisim.


12 posted on 01/24/2009 9:08:13 AM PST by TalBlack
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To: staytrue
have to disagree. It is more like he is becoming Americanized. All you have to do is check out the US domestic violence murder rate for citizens to know that.

Yes, I must agree. Chinese culture has existed for centuries as a very peaceful and loving country. There is no evidence of anyone in or from that country showing any disposition towards violence. Yes, it is America's fault.

13 posted on 01/24/2009 9:36:24 AM PST by School of Rational Thought (CPA, MBA needs a job - referrals welcome)
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“high strung perfectionists”
Yes, that was also my experience when I was assigned a girl from Hong Kong as my freshman year college room mate. She was a nice girl and very friendly. When she got a grade that was not perfect, she was very hard on herself. It was a pity. Such a brilliant girl and she only saw her tiny mistake that gave her an A instead of an A+.


14 posted on 01/24/2009 4:06:51 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (That's Mrs.Chief Master Sgt. to you sonny.)
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To: Mila
Over the years I worked with several Asians from Korea, China, Japan and the Philippines. They were all lovely people who would go out of their way to help you if you should need it, but the ones I knew also tended to be rather high strung perfectionists who often seemed on the verge of a minor breakdown, even when the cause of their distress turned out to be somewhat inconsequential in the scheme of things.

Having spent about 8 years in Asia, I think the biggest difference is when western people get angry, it tends to be a gradual process. There is some build up to it. Over here in Asia, it is much more common to see people just snap. I think it is the societal pressures which dictate how they must behave in public which doesn't allow a release... and then when the release finally does happen it tends to be completely out of proportion to the event which triggered it.

It isn't a problem if you are used to it and know what to look out for, but it does get a number of casual visitors to Asia in trouble. I have seen it many times.

15 posted on 01/24/2009 5:06:23 PM PST by killjoy (Life sucks, wear a helmet.)
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I am suprised the are no protest to BAN KNIVES especially those evil featured BUCK KNIVES and BLACK KNIVES....


16 posted on 01/26/2009 4:39:01 AM PST by Vlaxo
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As a dad with a son at VT....maybe we need to ban Asians? This makes as much sense as disarming the students.

I have surmised that the April 07 attacks could have been stopped in progress with one armed student in that building.


17 posted on 01/26/2009 7:07:02 AM PST by Gopher Broke (Check out a great Blog....http://roanokeconservative.blogspot.com/)
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I AGREE 100%. My point being is that this recent case was just as violent as the event in 2007. The only difference was that in one case there was a knife and in the other there where firearms....

this is further proof that the argument is never about the violence but about guns......

18 posted on 01/26/2009 7:54:26 AM PST by Vlaxo
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As per norm, this tragedy, as with most, could have been interrupted, but possible not averted, by an armed and trained individual.

Often, it is the result of good men (standard rules of English apply-females included of course), doing nothing, that allows aberrant behaviors to go unchecked.

Perhaps a student or students at the door(ready to escape)yelling at him to “stop!” would have been the catalyst that interrupted this event. Outcome may not have changed (girl still may have died) but w/o action, there is no reaction (certain laws of physics apply to behaviors too).

No one will allege any responsibility to the girls who fled w/o doing anything but dailing for police, but in a society where the breakdown of civic responsibility is the goal, these sheeple did exactly what they have been taught not get involved, you may get hurt.... Leave the heavy lifting for those trained by the state to do so, etc.

I am not saying that since all others present where female, that if a male or males were present anything different would have occurred, actually I believes that the outcome would have been the same. Sad, Change we can believe in.....

God Bless & MOLON LABE

19 posted on 01/26/2009 10:38:42 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

He was behind her on line with his arms around her neck like a clingy boyfriend, by the time the blood spurted, it was too late for anyone to do anything to help her. The quick thinking manager shepherded the customers and employees into the kitchen, instructing them to call 911. She returned to the dining area to help the girl, but the head was gone. She returned to the kitchen.


20 posted on 01/27/2009 7:11:42 AM PST by TaxRelief (Walmart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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