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As U.S. emerges from dark age, Canada's scientific edge fades (megabarf alert)
Globe and Mail ^ | January 24, 2009 | CAROLYN ABRAHAM AND ELIZABETH CHURCH

Posted on 01/24/2009 3:01:38 PM PST by neverdem

Scientists across America are celebrating the passing of the Bush administration as the end of a dark age, a bleak stretch in which research budgets shrank and everything — stem cells, sex education, climate change, and the very origins of the Grand Canyon — became a point of conflict.

President Barack Obama has ignited a new optimism among the white coats. In his inaugural speech, he promised to "restore science to its rightful place," hinting at nothing short of a renaissance in the fields of health, energy, the environment and America's schools.

As a testament to that, the United States Friday became the first country in the world to approve a clinical trial of embryonic stem cells in human patients.

But in Canada's research community, Mr. Obama's plans have sparked anxiety that if this country fails to keep pace, it will have a tougher time recruiting smart people and convincing talent not to flock south. In short, Canada could lose its competitive edge to the Obama advantage...

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TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: bush; funding; nih; obama; research; science; stringtheory; xplanets

1 posted on 01/24/2009 3:01:40 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

2 posted on 01/24/2009 3:04:32 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: neverdem
"restore science to its rightful place,"

a.k.a. "Dupe the dumbed-down masses with pseudo junk-science just long enough to slip a few bills out of their respective wallets."

3 posted on 01/24/2009 3:09:06 PM PST by The Duke (I have met the enemy, and he is named 'Apathy'!)
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To: neverdem

Scientists across America are celebrating the passing of the Bush administration as the end of a dark age.....
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Only our enemies are celebrating the “passing” of Bush. Now they have a Manchurian Candidate ready to pander to their every desire. Including pandering to the “JUNK SCIENCE” world which will push a lot of campaign dollars toward the left in 2010 and 2012. The game is not new -— same ole liberal playbook now with a TRILLION DOLLAR spin on it.


4 posted on 01/24/2009 3:12:29 PM PST by EagleUSA
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To: SandRat

and the last new drug developed in Canada was?


5 posted on 01/24/2009 3:15:54 PM PST by WildcatClan (Obama is to the Presidency as Basquiat is to art.)
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To: The Duke

Liberals (socialists, communists) worship at the altar of “faux intellectualism and abortion” (the Goddess FIA) and the God SELF with the blood sacrifice of abortion.

Sigh. . . I’m already sick of hearing his voice even accidentally on t.v. blaring from the other room.

Signed,
Sad Twinkie Missing “Bush”


6 posted on 01/24/2009 3:16:18 PM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: WildcatClan

BC Bud.


7 posted on 01/24/2009 3:18:08 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: neverdem
Scientists across America are celebrating the passing of the Bush administration as the end of a dark age

CORRECTED:

American Socialists celebrate onset of Obama era of increased wealth redistribution in areas that will benefit them. Canadian Socialists are concerned their handouts won't keep pace.

8 posted on 01/24/2009 3:21:47 PM PST by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself)
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To: SandRat

Hundreds of billions of public money spent on “alternative energy” research by the federal govt over the past 40 years and we have almost NOTHING to show for it. The “rightful place” is for the private sector to perform most of the R&D and get the federal govt with its statist “industrial policy” goals out of all R&D.


9 posted on 01/24/2009 3:22:27 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: neverdem

The irony of course is that nearly all of Canada’s talent, regardless of field, has been “heading south” for decades. Those that remain, like the authors of this hideously bad piece, are for lack of a better term, the mediocre.


10 posted on 01/24/2009 3:26:46 PM PST by TheWasteLand
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To: neverdem
the end of a dark age

Correction: - entering a dark age, of spiritual and moral degradation, in which the disciples of Mengele and Kevorkian, pursue their vile evil.

11 posted on 01/24/2009 3:29:45 PM PST by verklaring (Pyrite is not gold))
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To: neverdem

Going after junkscience is not progress...it is ignorance folding into arrogance!


12 posted on 01/24/2009 3:32:32 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: neverdem
passing of the Bush administration as the end of a dark age, a bleak stretch in which research budgets shrank

Read the whole repetitious and poorly written thing and couldn't find any quantification of this purported fact. Would seem to be appropriate to include this information.

13 posted on 01/24/2009 3:38:00 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: neverdem
If Canada can find a way to lose nutcases like David Suzuki maybe they can come out of the dark ages themselves.
14 posted on 01/24/2009 3:40:40 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: neverdem

The US was in the Dark Ages because Bush didn’t support gay sex training for kindergarteners?

Well, Obama has promised to fix that.

This would be sort of funny of these moonbats weren’t now in charge of the media, the schools, the colleges, and the left wing political parties.


15 posted on 01/24/2009 3:47:29 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: neverdem

The US was in the Dark Ages because Bush didn’t support gay sex training for kindergarteners?

Well, Obama has promised to fix that.

This would be sort of funny if these moonbats weren’t now in charge of the media, the schools, the colleges, and the left wing political parties.


16 posted on 01/24/2009 3:47:44 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

Yes, dark ages indeed. We still have a high standard of living, good health care, etc but the constant lies and negative droning from the elites have convinced most Americans we are poor, sick, and miserable.

One scientific area that inspires many people is the space program. Space advocates like me are waiting for some kind of coherent new policy on that front but none has been announced yet. During the campaign he made all kinds of nice sounding promises about space (gee, what else is new!) but didn’t offer much of a real plan. The White House website was quick to trash Bush for breaking promises to New Orleans, but there is nothing on there about space. Time is a wasting. If they really want to inspire people and improve technology, the admin. would come up with a strong space policy. Instead, what we got during the campaign was that the big O was inspired and excited during the Apollo missions, 40 years ago! I thought we were supposed to look forward, not dwell on glories of the past.


17 posted on 01/24/2009 4:11:15 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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I agree that the Space program is one of the few areas that promises to revolutionize mankind. Doubt that will happen though. Back in the late 60s, the Left discovered it could torpedo the Space program by asking: Why are we spending $$ up there, when we have needs down here? As if every dollar we spend on the Space program took a piece of bread out of a child’s mouth.

One way to rekindle the dwindling light of freedom in this country is rediscover the frontier and colonize the stars. The Left hates the thought of that—they would rather we be stuck on Earth forever. Humanity is at its best when we have a frontier to conquer. Without one, we will slowly devolve to Socialism. Space is a frontier without limits, however.


18 posted on 01/24/2009 4:22:51 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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19 posted on 01/24/2009 7:45:12 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
As a testament to that, the United States Friday became the first country in the world to approve a clinical trial of embryonic stem cells in human patients.

I think the PRC did that years ago with devastating results on non voluntary patients.

Mengele is sitting up in his grave.
20 posted on 01/24/2009 7:57:48 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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Scientists across America are celebrating the passing of the Bush administration as the end of a dark age, a bleak stretch in which research budgets shrank and everything -- stem cells, sex education, climate change, and the very origins of the Grand Canyon -- became a point of conflict.
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21 posted on 01/25/2009 8:15:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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22 posted on 01/25/2009 8:15:30 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Hundreds of billions of public money spent on “alternative energy” research by the federal govt over the past 40 years and we have almost NOTHING to show for it. The “rightful place” is for the private sector to perform most of the R&D

What have we got to show from them?

Basic scientific research is usually not funded by the private sector because there is no immediate ROI.

I don't know the details of where the government may have put money into "alternative energy" aside from fusion research. I do know that we wouldn't have a biotechnology industry in this country without many years of federally funded research.

To do the most fundamental forms of research, somebody has to commit to it who is not expecting to necessarily make an immediate buck from it.

23 posted on 01/25/2009 10:07:34 PM PST by wideminded
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