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U.S. school children need less work, more play (especially Blacks)
Reuters ^ | January 26, 2009 | Michael Conlon

Posted on 01/26/2009 4:27:32 AM PST by Zakeet

All work and no play may be a hazard for some U.S. school children.

Researchers reported on Monday that a growing trend of curbing free time at school may lead to unruly classrooms and rob youngsters of needed exercise and an important chance to socialize.

A look at more than 10,000 children aged 8 and 9 found better classroom behavior among those who had at least a 15-minute break during the school day compared to those who did not, Dr. Romina Barros and colleagues at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York reported.

The behavior assessments were general in nature and not made at any particular time of the school day, their report said.

"The available research suggests that recess may play an important role in the learning, social development, and health of children in elementary school," the research team said in a study published in Pediatrics, the journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics.

But today many children get less free time and fewer physical outlets at school "because many school districts responded to the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 by reducing time committed to recess, the creative arts, and even physical education in an effort to focus on reading and mathematics," they added.

The researchers also found that children not getting recess were more likely to be black, from poor families and attending public schools in large cities.

"This raises concern in light of evidence that many children from disadvantaged backgrounds are not free to roam their neighborhoods or even their own yards unless they are accompanied by adults," the team said. "For many of these children, recess periods may be the only opportunity for them to practice their social skills with other children."

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KEYWORDS: atriskstudents; blackstudents; education; playground; psychology; race; urban
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This article is the biggest pants load that I have seen Rooters put out in some time -- which is, unfortunately, saying a lot.
1 posted on 01/26/2009 4:27:32 AM PST by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

The fact they pay people to do this research is evidence of the problems in schools.


2 posted on 01/26/2009 4:30:19 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: Zakeet

I don’t see any pants load in this article.

Children ARE in prison, kept from exercise and time to THINK.

What is missing from the article, and all lamestream media, is the REAL solution: abolish government school, and get most children out of ANY school.


3 posted on 01/26/2009 4:31:30 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Zakeet

To be the devil’s advocate, if you imposed eight straight hours with perhaps only a lunch break on adult workers, it would be illegal. If workers have the right to at least one fifteen-minute break during their work day, so do little children. That in no way takes from their actual performance; we have many other factors to look at.


4 posted on 01/26/2009 4:32:33 AM PST by coydog (Proud to have slept through the Obama coronation!)
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To: Zakeet

I don’t think it is unreasonable to expect some recess time. We take breaks at work.

Have you ever been there during lunch? Half the time is spent in line, they have about 10 minutes to cram down lunch and have some ‘social’ time.

Kids aren’t robots. They learn how to solve differences, social skills and problem solving on the playground. Not just in organized sports like in PE.

Plus, they do need to get energy out. Or they will be crammed with Ritalin which everyone here will complain about.

I don’t see the problem in expecting 30 minutes of recess everyday.


5 posted on 01/26/2009 4:32:36 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: Zakeet

If they want to learn about leisure time and play they should learn from their parents, who are probably sponging off taxpayer money. More play and less work will prepare them for adulthood when they will do no useful work at all.


6 posted on 01/26/2009 4:33:13 AM PST by detective
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To: Zakeet

Well, this should go a long way at keeping these children as ignorant as possible and primed to need democrats in power.

ultimate pay for play


7 posted on 01/26/2009 4:33:35 AM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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To: Zakeet

This sounds like a secret plot to win more gold medals in future Olympics.


8 posted on 01/26/2009 4:33:58 AM PST by kempster
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To: detective

That is a ridiculous statement.

Good grief.


9 posted on 01/26/2009 4:34:00 AM PST by autumnraine
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To: Zakeet

Hey Zakeet!

As the mom of boys I can attest to the fact that “ants in the pants” syndrome can be alleviated by physical activity - recess and gym class.

What do teachers often do when a child misbehaves?
She often takes “time” off his recess.

So there he sits - pent up energy - and when class resumes, his behavior is even worse than before.

When budgets get cut - it often comes out of the phys ed. program as well.

So picture a bunch of normal boys being told they have to sit nice all day.

Do you think you can pull that off?

Is it any wonder many parents get pulled aside and teacher says “I think Johnny may need some medicine to help him focus...”


10 posted on 01/26/2009 4:34:40 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: Zakeet
"because many school districts responded to the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 by reducing time committed to recess, the creative arts, and even physical education in an effort to focus on reading and mathematics," they added.

Or, to make a long story short, "Bushs' fault".

The researchers also found that children not getting recess were more likely to be black, from poor families and attending public schools in large cities.

Translation: "Children and poor his hardest".

11 posted on 01/26/2009 4:37:21 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: screaminsunshine
I agree ............................ in principle.

Kids need UNSTRUCTURED play.

Playing is where social rules are established.

The home is the benevolent dictatorship, and the playground is the proving ground for those mean ol' rules.

Boys especially learn base/foot ball rules on TV and discussions, and prove them with 'cleats on the ground' .. (or more commonly .. sneakers).

I've heard my daughters play (yes .. I was eavesdropping), and I know my one daughter (now a mother of two) learned to discipline her children by how poor Barbie was 'dealt with'.


Turn the kids loose with the tools (bats, balls, gloves, goals .. whatever) and they'll figure it out with more staying power than by being told.

12 posted on 01/26/2009 4:39:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Zakeet

For the love of Pete, go back to the way school was 40 yrs ago and the test scores and education the kids receive will improve by leaps & bounds.


13 posted on 01/26/2009 4:41:22 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: knarf

But..that would not be PC. It might not be fair. How can they be indoctrinated?


14 posted on 01/26/2009 4:42:07 AM PST by screaminsunshine (.)
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To: detective
If they want to learn about leisure time and play they should learn from their parents, who are probably sponging off taxpayer money. More play and less work will prepare them for adulthood when they will do no useful work at all.

You have my vote for the "Most ridiculous post of the day"!

15 posted on 01/26/2009 4:43:23 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: screaminsunshine
I agree ............................ in principle.

Kids need UNSTRUCTURED play.

Playing is where social rules are established.

The home is the benevolent dictatorship, and the playground is the proving ground for those mean ol' rules.

Boys especially learn base/foot ball rules on TV and discussions, and prove them with 'cleats on the ground' .. (or more commonly .. sneakers).

I've heard my daughters play (yes .. I was eavesdropping), and I know my one daughter (now a mother of two) learned to discipline her children by how poor Barbie was 'dealt with'.


Turn the kids loose with the tools (bats, balls, gloves, goals .. whatever) and they'll figure it out with more staying power than by being told.

16 posted on 01/26/2009 4:43:27 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
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Authur,


You're probably a nice guy ... but completely delusional when it comes to childrens' education ...


Bill Gatherd (sp) and Homeschool aren't the magic paneceas for everything ... although they do work well in some settings ...


Have a great day ...


Patton-at-Bastogne


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17 posted on 01/26/2009 4:43:41 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Angels and Ministers of Grace, Defend Us ....)
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To: Arthur McGowan
I'm not a professional teacher, but I have taught for the past ten years at my parish (Old Testament to sixth graders).

When I started out, I wanted to disseminate as much info as I could during the 75 minutes we had each week. Over the years, that has evolved into a less structured format, with time for socialization.

I know I've enjoyed teaching more over the past five years than I did the first five. I'll bet that attitude comes through to my students. I have also found their retention has increased, when I ask questions that pertain to previous lessons.

18 posted on 01/26/2009 4:43:46 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: screaminsunshine

oops .. sorry for the double


19 posted on 01/26/2009 4:44:21 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Zakeet
This article is the biggest pants load that I have seen Rooters put out in some time -- which is, unfortunately, saying a lot.

Do you have children in school? When my son has a half he he comes home all wired up because he didn't have any recess time.

20 posted on 01/26/2009 4:45:02 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Scotswife

I agree that recess is necessary, but at the same time, I worked in an inner city school years ago and when we let the kids out for recess, half of them would be out of the school yard in no time at all and come back with somebody else’s wallet or purse or bicycle. Or in a police car.

The article compaines that the kids are not allowed out to “roam the neighborhood.” I think that’s pretty reasonable, since roaming those neighborhoods could be dangerous for either the kids or the neighborhoods. More recess is fine, but even that has to be controlled, and I can tell you from experience, the behavior of the kids made recess one of the most dangerous times for the teachers.

What this article is really about is trying to overthrow the Bush attempt to put in equitable academic standards at all schools. Obama’s Chicago was a leader in fighting them, complaining that black children particularly could not be expected to spend “all that time” studying and needed instead to spend it in consciousness-raising or social activities. Recess is great, and I agree that kids don’t get enough physical activity, but that’s not really what Reuters is concerned about. It’s actually an attack on objective academic standards.


21 posted on 01/26/2009 4:45:12 AM PST by livius
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To: Scotswife

Totally agree. But the author can drop the “inner city disadvantaged” routine, it’s happening around the country. Children are “caged” much more now then previous generations because of our pervert invested society.


22 posted on 01/26/2009 4:45:30 AM PST by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: Zakeet

I homeschooled. Kid’s need exercise and breaks from studies. If ours got antzy, we’d send him for a jog around the block, or out in the yard to play.

If you had a rambunctious dog and you didn’t exercise him, he’d be almost impossible to handle. Children, especially boys aren’t much different, in that they need exercise to work off excess energy.

In the dark ages, when I was in elementary school (late 50’s early 60’s) we had 2 recess breaks each day.


23 posted on 01/26/2009 4:46:16 AM PST by dawn53
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To: Scotswife
So picture a bunch of normal boys being told they have to sit nice all day.

I'd be ecstatic with a mere 15 minutes. LOL!

24 posted on 01/26/2009 4:47:27 AM PST by Night Hides Not (Don't blame me...I voted for Palin!)
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To: Zakeet

This is not entirely a pants load. Government schools for a host of reasons have been cutting back and outright eliminating recess and P.E. classes. Reasons include the need for more classroom instruction and avoiding playgorund injuries that could lead to lawsuits. Of course they have the obvious result: a classroom full of 8 year olds who have not had a chance to expend all the energy they build up during the day. The Government solution? Drug the kids.


25 posted on 01/26/2009 4:47:38 AM PST by bobjam
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To: coydog

In defense of “government education”, the teachers have little power to dismiss the kids who thwart the education of the others.

I know it sounds harsh, but until we cull the true morons or the juvenile delinquents from the roles, you can expect poor performance.

I have a (former) teacher friend who gave up when she had no ability to get rid of the bad apples.


26 posted on 01/26/2009 4:48:44 AM PST by RangerM (I'm embracing what is right-wing)
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To: Zakeet
Modern day Marie Antoinette: “What, the Peasant children have no math skills? They know no science? History is too taxing? Can but barely speak their own language? Let them play tag”!

Although I do agree that all children need good, hearty recess. It's where I learned all of my essential social skills. The important things, like pulling wedgies, hawking loogies, the venerable Atomic Situp, and that long lost art, fist-fighting in the sandbox.

27 posted on 01/26/2009 4:50:11 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Scotswife
My 15 yo is climbing the walls almost every waking moment!

He drives me crazy ... but I know (Oh God, I HOPE I know ... /8^) ... ) he'll be a better man for my not medicating him, but forcing him outside to do ANYthing ... just go do ANYthing ....

Fortunately we live rural and it's winter and wood needs to be cut and split .. and he does a terrific job, too !

Now, if I can only figure out how to pay for all the food he eats, and .. (do you remember that character in "Peanuts", Pigpen? ... ) .. get him to not drop his every earthly possesion behind him as he walks.

28 posted on 01/26/2009 4:50:25 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Zakeet; screaminsunshine
> This article is the biggest pants load that I have seen Rooters put out in some time -- which is, unfortunately, saying a lot.

In this case, I can't agree with you. This study is very similar to one done in New Zealand. It resulted in a major initiative called "Push PLAY", aimed at getting New Zealanders -- particularly children -- more physically active, with a view to reducing health costs.

It is proving to be fantastically successful.

SPARC website here

It is a great cross-the-board initiative that also includes adults and the medical profession. For example, I have a lingering medical issue that is treated by medicine but is also improved by physical activity. I went to see my doctor, and she gave me a "Green Prescription" -- which is a prescription to undertake physical activity.

That prescription is filled by the SPARC people (Sports & Recreation New Zealand -- a Government corporate entity) who fill the prescription with discounts to sports and recreation facilities -- in this case, to a gym and a pool.

The whole idea being investment in physical activity ultimately translates into reduced healthcare costs. And as you would be aware, our social medicine system costs the Nation a fortune. So it is a "Win/Win" scenario.

Similarly, the programs for kids: they are fantastic, aimed at reducing obesity and all the problems that go with that like diabetes. (Some of NZ's ethnic cultures are particularly prone to obesity, from a genetic viewpoint)

Yes it is preferable that people take responsibility for this themselves, and that the government not need to be involved. The sad fact is that some people won't because they are too stupid or lazy or incapable of doing it themselves, in which case they become a burden on society unless the government takes matters in hand and "fixes" it for them.

The "Push PLAY" program is probably one such example. And, as I've said, it works extremely well.

New Zealand is a great sports Nation that takes pride in the physical fitness of its citizens and the world dominance of its sports teams: our Nation would therefore not invest in something like "Push PLAY" unless it would be extremely beneficial long-term. That in itself is a testament to the importance of getting the physical activity thing right for children at a young age, before permanent damage is done.

The USA would do well to consider something similar.

29 posted on 01/26/2009 4:50:39 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: livius

“I agree that recess is necessary, but at the same time, I worked in an inner city school years ago and when we let the kids out for recess, half of them would be out of the school yard in no time at all and come back with somebody else’s wallet or purse or bicycle. Or in a police car.”

yes - that would be a problem wouldn’t it?

I was trying to speak more generally - what is good, generally, for normal kids.

As far as kids leaving grounds and getting in trouble?
That right there is an adult supervision problem.

“More recess is fine, but even that has to be controlled, and I can tell you from experience, the behavior of the kids made recess one of the most dangerous times for the teachers.”

I agree roaming the neighborhood is a bad idea.
And the decay of our culture (due to the decay of the family) has made teaching a more dangerous job - especially in the inner cities.

even so - to make those same kids do nothing but sit all day is much of an answer.

” It’s actually an attack on objective academic standards.”

And it’s a typical liberal approach to pretend the 2 don’t go hand in hand.
We can keep the academic standards, and actually enhance them by considering the fact that children need physical activity.

We certainly were more active as kids (I’m 40), as were our parents.

I have a personal belief that sedentary bodies lead to sedentary minds.


30 posted on 01/26/2009 4:53:07 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: livius

“is much of an answer” = “isn’t much of an anwer...”


31 posted on 01/26/2009 4:54:21 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: dawn53

Kids are like puppies. A tired puppy is a good puppy. Same with the kids. Our oldest son would probably be considered ADHD and a candidate for meds at a city school. Out here with plenty of recess time at school and stuff to do outside at home ... he’s just a typical little boy ;-)

The real problem with school performance: unstable, unhealthy families. No one wants to admit to that.


32 posted on 01/26/2009 4:54:55 AM PST by Cloverfarm
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To: knarf

I’ve got one of those critters at home myself, and he has 3 younger brothers.

Yes - splitting wood is one of the best activities ever for teenage boys isn’t it?

My 8 yr. old is little pisser, and I know if I don’t find a way to positively channel his mischevious nature, we are in for a world of hurtin’ when his teenage hormones kick in!


33 posted on 01/26/2009 4:57:06 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: coydog
To be the devil’s advocate, if you imposed eight straight hours with perhaps only a lunch break on adult workers, it would be illegal. If workers have the right to at least one fifteen-minute break during their work day, so do little children. That in no way takes from their actual performance; we have many other factors to look at.

Huh? I've had plenty of jobs where I got no break except lunch

I get your point, but there are plenty of places where no coffee break is allowed on the job.

34 posted on 01/26/2009 4:59:01 AM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: knarf
He drives me crazy ... but I know (Oh God, I HOPE I know ... /8^) ... ) he'll be a better man for my not medicating him, but forcing him outside to do ANYthing ... just go do ANYthing ....

My sister's son has been on Ritalin all his life. He's now 22 and has a "chemical imbalance". They are basically experimenting with him using different kinds of drugs to make him "manageable".

I can't/won't say anything to my sister but I firmly believe it's because he has been drugged since he was about 5.

Neither of my sons will EVER be put on Ritalin.

35 posted on 01/26/2009 4:59:13 AM PST by raybbr (It's going to get a lot worse now that the anchor babies are voting!)
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To: Night Hides Not

exactly!

One reason I hesitate to become certified to teach is I wonder if I have what it takes to keep a classroom of boys engaged all day.


36 posted on 01/26/2009 4:59:24 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: raybbr
Neither of my sons will EVER be put on Ritalin.

Good choice!

ADHD drugs can cause hallucinations in some kids

CHICAGO (Reuters) – Drugs for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder can cause children to have hallucinations even when taken as directed, U.S. government researchers said on Monday.

U.S. Food and Drug Administration researchers analyzed data from 49 clinical studies conducted by makers of the drugs and found they can cause psychosis and mania in some patients, including some with no obvious risk factors. In some cases, children hallucinated that worms, bugs or snakes were crawling on them.

"Patients and physicians should be aware of the possibility that psychiatric symptoms consistent with psychosis or mania" might arise in the course of treatment, Dr. Andrew Mosholder and colleagues wrote in the journal Pediatrics.

Their analysis provides fresh detail about known risks of the drugs, which include Novartis AG's Ritalin and Focalin XR, Shire Plc's Adderall XR and Daytrana patch, Johnson & Johnson's Concerta, Eli Lilly and Co's Strattera and Celltech Pharmaceuticals Inc's Metadate CD.

It also includes data on Cephalon Inc's modafinil, sold as Provigil, a narcolepsy drug that was rejected as an ADHD treatment in children.

37 posted on 01/26/2009 5:04:19 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: indylindy

Come on. They spend maybe 1/4 of the time at school in real learning. The rest is having PC bullsh#t programmed into them. Kids need a bread to run around and burn off some energy. We ALWAYS had a morning and afternoon recess in Grammar school and Gym several times a week. I will bet big bucks that the number of kids on Ritalin and other ADD drugs would drop if they had the opportunity to exercise a little.


38 posted on 01/26/2009 5:05:07 AM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: Kozak

Well, I agree with you, constant indoctrination is not learning.

Let them play!


39 posted on 01/26/2009 5:07:56 AM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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To: NurdlyPeon

More like the fault of more federal government interference. Just as bad when Republicans do it as Democrats.


40 posted on 01/26/2009 5:08:31 AM PST by all the best
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To: autumnraine; detective

What detective said was sarcastic, but it was kind of funny.


41 posted on 01/26/2009 5:10:08 AM PST by dforest (life is now good again....he has been inaugurated)
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To: RangerM

And unfortunately the bad apples make life and education miserable for the majority that do want to learn. This is even more evident in inner city schools, where the pressure to NOT learn is tremendous (You think you’re better than everyone else!! You’re trying to be (another ethnic group), and so on...Thomas Sowell nails this well in a couple of books). The schools need to kick the bad apples onto the trash pile so that the other 80% can succeed in learning.

By the way, I think there is enough time in the day to cover math and English without eliminating recess. How about getting rid of all the other garbage being taught??

hh


42 posted on 01/26/2009 5:11:14 AM PST by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need "a choice not an echo"... (Barry Goldwater))
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To: Scotswife
So picture a bunch of normal boys being told they have to sit nice all day. Do you think you can pull that off?

Sure, we did it in the 60's, why can't they sit and behave now? When the teacher told us to shut up, we shut up

43 posted on 01/26/2009 5:11:34 AM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: raybbr

AMEN !!


44 posted on 01/26/2009 5:12:42 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: coydog

That 15 minutes seemed like forever when I was 6 years old. Now it’s gone in a moment.

I agree with the article but like most pointy-headed academic research it makes an isolated point but misses the bigger picture.

Kids need recess and recreation. Kids also need to think, and to be challenged to think. Most importantly, kids need families with fathers and mothers who care about them and take time to make sure they are doing their homework and not getting into trouble.

15 minutes of recess isn’t going to save the kid with the crack whore mom and no dad.


45 posted on 01/26/2009 5:13:05 AM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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To: RaceBannon

kids had more recess time in the 60’s, and were more physically active.

Also - kindergarten was not mandatory, and most kindergartens were half day.


46 posted on 01/26/2009 5:13:19 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: henkster

“15 minutes of recess isn’t going to save the kid with the crack whore mom and no dad.”

no - but it might make him more manageable during the afternoon, and might help keep him off meds.


47 posted on 01/26/2009 5:14:42 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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To: nuconvert
For the love of Pete, go back to the way school was 40 yrs ago and the test scores and education the kids receive will improve by leaps & bounds.

Yep! First one there lights the woodstove and shovels the snow off the steps!

48 posted on 01/26/2009 5:16:51 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Zakeet

“fewer physical outlets at school “because many school districts responded to the No Child Left Behind Act of 2001 by reducing time committed to recess, the creative arts, and even physical education”
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Sure, blame it on legislation, instead of taking responsibility for inappropriately responding to the Act, and designing a curriculum that excluded recess (recess rocks!), creative outlets and gym.


49 posted on 01/26/2009 5:17:15 AM PST by Canedawg (Lincoln freed the slaves, BO will free the terrorists.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

“Yep! First one there lights the woodstove and shovels the snow off the steps!”

That’s another problem!

I remember our teachers giving us chores. Cleaning tabletops, beating the chalk out of the erasers outdoors.

At some point, parents began suing the schools for these things - saying it was the job of the janitors and teachers were guilty of forced child labor.

So now the kids can’t even be told to do simple chores!


50 posted on 01/26/2009 5:20:01 AM PST by Scotswife (GO ISRAEL!!!)
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