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The Obama-Limbaugh Bipartisan Stimulus Plan of 2009
EIB Ntwork Broadcast ^ | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 01/26/2009 11:27:34 AM PST by RoadTest

RUSH: I have a serious proposal to make: the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan 2009. There is a serious debate in this country as to how best to end the recession. Recessions will end on their own if they're left alone. The average recession will last five months to 11 months. The average recovery from each recession will last six years. What can make the recession worse is the wrong kind of government intervention.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho2009; economy; keynesian; limbaugh; obama; obamaagenda; rush; stimulus; supplyside
Rush is proposing a real fix for our recession, as opposed to a partisan banner for Liberalism.
1 posted on 01/26/2009 11:27:34 AM PST by RoadTest
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To: RoadTest
Interesting proposal, BUT LIBERALISM is now the choice of the electorate. Sorry, conservatism is screwed. Welcome to Europe - you don't even have to pack up and move.
2 posted on 01/26/2009 11:29:49 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: RoadTest

I heard this part - and I agree.

Sorry I missed the opener, though


3 posted on 01/26/2009 11:31:43 AM PST by SueRae
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To: Cheerio
Don't give up hope. I am working with a few people who are starting to have second thoughts on voting for the Marxist in Chief.
4 posted on 01/26/2009 11:31:55 AM PST by lakertaker
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To: RoadTest
Great Idea, but sadly this is not a bipartisan proposal.

Unfortunately there are conservative parts included in the proposal. Therefore it is not bipartisan in the Democrat sense of the word. They now call almost all of the shots.

Elections have consequences.

5 posted on 01/26/2009 11:34:36 AM PST by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: lakertaker
What were they “thinking”? Oh, I guess they were “Feeling Good” when voting for the Messiah. It really was a Jim Jones moment.
6 posted on 01/26/2009 11:36:14 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio

“BUT LIBERALISM is now the choice of the electorate.”

Well, Obama the MSM creation was the choice of the mushy middle, they have no clue what they voted for other then “change and hope”. Liberal or conservative isn’t really in their lexicon.


7 posted on 01/26/2009 11:36:38 AM PST by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the socialist messiah. 1-20-13 Freedom Day.)
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To: lakertaker

The few that are having second thoughts will never admit that he’s a Marxist, or even a socialist, because that would mean that they were, too.


8 posted on 01/26/2009 11:38:51 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Cheerio
LIBERALISM is now the choice of the electorate

Then why didn't bambi run openly on the ideas of big government spending and high taxes on everyone instead of his bogus "tax cut" language?

9 posted on 01/26/2009 11:40:07 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: RoadTest

Agreed. I heard the whole thing,and it’s a really good plan. However,as he himself said before he gave his proposal,it would never see the light of day. I think he should take out a full-page ad in the WSJ challenging Congress and Zero to consider it. It’s a sad sign of the times when a radio talk show host makes more sense,displays more lucidity and guts than the buttheads we put in office.


10 posted on 01/26/2009 11:40:59 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Trust but verify.....Ronnie,we sure do miss you,sir!)
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To: lakertaker

They may regret it, but will vote for him again, given the chance. Personally, it wouldn’t surprise me if he engineered elections right out of this country’s vocabulary. It’s (was) all the rage in Africa (ala, Idi Amin, Mohamar Khadaffi, Zimbabwe, Somalia, et al).


11 posted on 01/26/2009 11:41:07 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: R_Kangel
Elections have consequences.

They do indeed, but mobama's assent was a political coup.

12 posted on 01/26/2009 11:45:33 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The tree of liberty is getting mighty dry and I already miss GWB)
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To: RoadTest

I love it! Obama, YOU opened this door!


13 posted on 01/26/2009 11:45:57 AM PST by GVnana ("I once dressed as Tina Fey for Halloween." - Sarah Palin)
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To: Cheerio

Do I get a two-hour lunch and 6 weeks of vacation now??


14 posted on 01/26/2009 11:47:37 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: RoadTest

i heard it. Absolutely hilarious - not because Rush’s ideas aren’t sound (they are!) but because Obie and Obots will not take it seriously and because it makes Obie look absolutely ridiculous.


15 posted on 01/26/2009 11:47:58 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: R_Kangel

Bipartisanship in the Democrat sense is when both Republicans and Democrats agree to spend a trillion dollars in hiring people to dig ditches and then some more to fill them up.


16 posted on 01/26/2009 11:48:23 AM PST by libh8er
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To: RoadTest

If the Democrats (Socialists) get their way, this country is not likely to be out of this mess in four years. Obama was elected on the premise that we NEED him to fix things. In four years, in all likelihood, things will be worse which will then be presented as evidence that we NEED the Obamassiah even more. Unless the MSM can continue to cover for Obama and lie to the public (and make them believe it), maybe after a while, people will smarten up and figure out that Obama is not going to fill their gas tanks and pay their mortgages in the real world.


17 posted on 01/26/2009 11:50:03 AM PST by Twinkie (TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT!!!)
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To: RoadTest

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2171958/posts


18 posted on 01/26/2009 11:50:25 AM PST by Matchett-PI (Obama fully intends to tear down our Constitution. So no, I do not want Obama to succeed.)
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To: RoadTest

Rush’s sensible proposal will be met by scorn and derision by the radical wing of the Obama admin.


19 posted on 01/26/2009 11:50:28 AM PST by JPJones
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To: RoadTest

I don’t get it, (the joke that is).

If Rush’s proposal gets implemented, how do you prove the tax cuts caused the recovery, and not the “stimulus package?”


20 posted on 01/26/2009 11:51:14 AM PST by AdSimp
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To: RoadTest

It’s a good plan, except for all the liberal spending programs. ;-)


21 posted on 01/26/2009 11:52:37 AM PST by Loyal Buckeye
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To: AdSimp

The premise is it doesn’t have to get implemented. Just Zero’s mention that he is “considering” such a proposal would cause an uplift in the market.


23 posted on 01/26/2009 11:55:21 AM PST by libh8er
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To: MrB
Then why didn't bambi run openly on the ideas of big government spending and high taxes on everyone instead of his bogus "tax cut" language?

He couldn't run completely in the open because they knew they would not get enough votes. IMHO Obammy didn't win the election, McLame lost it. Why was McLame critical of the GOP in selected instances, like the party chair in NC when she ran an ad critical of Messiah's Pastor Wright, why did McLame go after the MC in OH that was introducing McLame for using Hussein's given name. Why did McLame NOT stand up during his campaign and tell the country WHY THE BAILOUT was needed and which party was to blame for setting up Fannie and Freddie to fail? The list goes on and on.

When Messiah was sworn in there were still pundits out there saying he would run the country from a centrist position - I never believed that for one second. And now we see exactly was is to take place - there is virtually NO WAY TO STOP THIS MARCH OFF THE CLIFF. Coleman would help, but his chances look very iffy what with the RATS stealing that seat. How about the ~ $200 M that Barry raised overseas from illegal contributors? Never investigated because they were all less than the threshold - how convenient - George Soros at his best. The one that really scares me is that Soros and Peters have finally got their total gun ban in their sights. Watch the UN on this issue and how Barry reacts. The gun banners will be pressuring the liberals running Congress.
24 posted on 01/26/2009 11:55:25 AM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: RoadTest

The Democrats ‘bipartisan’ plan should not get one GOP vote. Call your Congressthings.


25 posted on 01/26/2009 11:56:42 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: Cheerio

That’s kind of my point -

the electorate didn’t vote for “liberalism” or “socialism”.

They voted for the cool black guy who was promising flying unicorn rides for everyone.


26 posted on 01/26/2009 11:57:18 AM PST by MrB (The 0bamanation: Marxism, Infanticide, Appeasement, Depression, Thuggery, and Censorship)
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To: Cheerio

My tagline says it all.


27 posted on 01/26/2009 11:58:11 AM PST by George Smiley (They've gone beyond merely drinking the Kool-Aid and are now eating it straight out of the packet.)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Not when you’re talking about Rush.


28 posted on 01/26/2009 11:58:13 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: gimme1ibertee

I don’t think the govt should be spending trillions of dollars it does not have. period.


29 posted on 01/26/2009 11:58:25 AM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: MrB
You are correct, but there are still a lot of Bush/Cheney haters out there and Liberal that REALLY DO WANT TO CHANGE THIS COUNRY emulate Europe. John Effing Kerry was headed that way in 2004 but fortunately America did not want to change CIC in the middle of a war. In 2008 the war was won, and everyone's 401 collapsed - saying to themselves "Well maybe it is time for European-style Socialism".

I think it was a combination of both - hard core liberalism AND the free unicorn rides for those that "feel" some sort of guilt about slavery from the distant past. I heard the latte from many people.
30 posted on 01/26/2009 12:01:56 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: RoadTest
"Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much in the next year or two."

Buyers' remorse.

31 posted on 01/26/2009 12:03:07 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: MrB

“the electorate didn’t vote for “liberalism” or “socialism”.

They voted for the cool black guy who was promising flying unicorn rides for everyone.”

This is BRILLIANT!!! Sums up the 2008 Presidential election flawlessly!


32 posted on 01/26/2009 12:08:45 PM PST by J40000
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To: RoadTest

One interesting question Rush pondered - was the probability that the Govmint will dictate maximum salaries for those entities they “socialize/bailout” i.e. banks, insurance companies. Since the Feds already dictate the minimum wage this is not much of a stretch.

To this end, I believe the Fed Dept. of Labor should immediately cap the salaries/remunerations of all Hollywood actors, grips, writers and hangers-on as the first socialist experiment. If it works - it should be adopted as policy.


33 posted on 01/26/2009 12:10:50 PM PST by sodpoodle
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To: lakertaker
I am working with a few people who are starting to have second thoughts on voting for the Marxist in Chief.

When it hits them in the pocketbook most democrats become republicans real quick.

34 posted on 01/26/2009 12:12:46 PM PST by McGruff
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
Do I get a two-hour lunch and 6 weeks of vacation now??

When you're unemployed, you can take however long of a lunch (or vacation) as you'd like!

35 posted on 01/26/2009 12:14:13 PM PST by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: Cheerio

Welcome to Europe? Can we at least have some pretty castles and cathedrals to look at?


36 posted on 01/26/2009 12:25:40 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: sodpoodle
I believe the Fed Dept. of Labor should immediately cap the salaries/remunerations of all Hollywood actors, grips, writers and hangers-on as the first socialist experiment.

Gets my vote - I wish there was a way I could still go to see their movies, but honestly I hate them.
37 posted on 01/26/2009 12:27:10 PM PST by Cheerio (Barack Hussein 0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: RoadTest

And how would you differentiate the successes of either when they are included in one bill hence implemented at the same time? Leave it to the media to differentiate? For his bill to work, the two stimulus bills would have to implement at different times.


38 posted on 01/26/2009 12:28:36 PM PST by carolinacrazy (Bow to your sensei.... BOW TO YOUR SENSEI...... www.jackassdemocrats.com)
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To: Cheerio

President Obama said in his inaugural address of how we needed to put aside our petty differences and work together. We constantly hear from the news media and different editorial pages on the need to work together. We are told of the crisis that confronts us and the need for innovative solutions. Obama quoted from George Washington at crisis point during the Revolutionary War of the need to work with common purpose.

In light of the crisis now before us should we as conservatives stand in the way? Let us all come together and support a truly innovative and bipartisan plan. That being the plan the Rush Limbaugh proposed today on his show, apportion the dollar amount of the stimulus plan by the percentage of how folks voted in the last election to how each side wants it spent. Call your congressman and senator today.


39 posted on 01/26/2009 12:36:08 PM PST by SoothsayerToo
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To: carolinacrazy

By comparing the number of private sector jobs generated to 0’s shovel project job, and the amount of consumer spending one year later. He reworded (brilliantly) Trickle Down economics.


40 posted on 01/26/2009 12:43:50 PM PST by cake_crumb (Waiting for Dear Leader Obama to drop sea levels and heal Earth.)
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To: GeronL

Au Contraire...
But they DO have trillions of dollars....the trillions it milks out of us peons year in,year out. I don’t think Rush expected the government trolls to take him seriously,but I still think it’s a good plan.


41 posted on 01/27/2009 8:59:01 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Trust but verify.....Ronnie,we sure do miss you,sir!)
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To: TheOldLady
Not when you’re talking about Rush.

Opinions vary. We'll have to disagree on that.
42 posted on 01/27/2009 9:01:54 AM PST by gimme1ibertee (Trust but verify.....Ronnie,we sure do miss you,sir!)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Next day BUMP!


43 posted on 01/27/2009 2:04:26 PM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: ConservativeStLouisGuy
I found the actual article to match the title of this posting (below)....

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT  
 
RUSH: I have a serious proposal to make: the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan 2009.  There is a serious debate in this country as to how best to end the recession.  Recessions will end on their own if they're left alone.  The average recession will last five months to 11 months.  The average recovery from each recession will last six years.  What can make the recession worse is the wrong kind of government intervention.  The wrong kind of government intervention is precisely what President Obama has proposed.  I don't believe that his stimulus plan is a stimulus plan at all.  I don't think it's designed to stimulate anything but the Democrat Party.  It's designed to repair the power losses from the nineties forward of the Democrat Party and to entrench this party for, quote, unquote, eternal power like Franklin Delano Roosevelt did with his New Deal. 
 
Now, we have Keynesian economists who believe government spending on shovel-ready projects of all kinds, "infrastructure" -- schools, roads, bridges -- that's the best way, they think, to stimulate our staggering economy.  There are just as many supply-side economists who make an equally persuasive case that tax cuts are the surest and quickest way to create permanent jobs and cause an economy to rebound and recover.  The Heritage Foundation can provide those figures from the administrations of JFK, who cut taxes; from Ronald Reagan who cut taxes; and George Bush 43, who also cut taxes.  The blueprint is there.  We can consult it. We know what happens when tax rates are cut in a recession.  We know that it brings an economy back.  There is recent polling that proves the American people are in favor of both of these approaches. 
 
Keynesian, stimulus spending by the government on infrastructure, roads and bridges and the like; and supply-side proposals -- and it's important to remember this, because it is the people's money in either case that's going to be spent here.  It's our money.  It is not Washington's.  Now, the Rasmussen people have a new poll out, and notwithstanding the media blitz in support of the Obama stimulus plan, most Americans, Rasmussen finds, are skeptical.  Rasmussen finds that 59% fear that Congress and the president will increase government spending too much in the next year or two.  Only 17% worry that they will cut taxes too much.  The American people, in polling, are not certain that the Obama stimulus plan is the way to go, despite what you're hearing from the Drive-By Media. 
 
So it seems to me that there may be an opportunity here and now for genuine compromise and to establish at the same time as this genuine compromise, evidence for how to deal with future recession so that this no longer becomes a matter of partisan debate each time it happens, because recessions are going to happen.  My proposal is designed to illustrate once and for all how to deal with them.  Congress is currently haggling over how to spend $1 trillion, $1 trillion generated by American taxpayers in the private sector.  Congress wants to spend -- think of this now -- $1 trillion that they don't have until you and I go to work and pay taxes.  They want to spend this on a stimulus plan. They want to take it out of our pockets and redistribute this money in their way to their constituents and to their make-work projects like schools, roads, bridges, blah, blah, blah.  
  
This does not have to be a divisive issue. It does not have to be in any way, shape, manner, or form a divisive issue.  So I have a proposal.  As has been noted, elections have consequences. President Obama in the meeting on Friday with House and Senate Republican leaders, Eric Cantor from Virginia in the House proposed a moderate tax cut plan. Obama said, Well, you know, "I won." I'm going to trump you on that.  We're not going to do that. Well, where's the bipartisanship, President Obama?  There is no bipartisanship in President Obama's plan.  President Obama's definition of bipartisanship is when Republicans cave and agree with his plan so he can then claim it's bipartisan.  But he's not compromising on anything here. 
 
Mine is a genuine compromise.  So let's look at how the vote came out, shall we?  Fifty-three percent of voters in this country -- we'll say, for the sake of this proposal, 53% of Americans -- voted for Obama.  Forty-six percent voted for Senator McCain, and 1% voted for wackos.  Let's give the remaining 1% to President Obama, so let's say that 54% voted for President Obama and 46% voted for Senator McCain.  As a way to bring the country together and at the same time determine the most effective way to deal with recessions, under the Obama-Limbaugh Stimulus Plan of 2009, $540 billion of the one trillion will be spent on infrastructure as defined by President Obama and the Democrats.  The remaining $460 billion, or 46% that voted for Senator McCain, will be directed towards tax cuts, as determined by me. 
 
These tax cuts will consist primarily of capital gains tax cuts and corporate tax rate cuts.  So Obama gets $540 billion to spend his way.  The other people of this country who did not vote for his way get $460 billion spent the way they would like it spent.  This is bipartisanship! This is how bipartisanship really works.  Okay, Obama wins by a 54-46 majority, so he gets 54% of the trillion bucks.  Spend it his way.  We get 46% of the trillion bucks to spend our way, and then we compare. Then we see which stimulus actually works and works the fastest, and I will guarantee you that if this plan is adopted, just the announcement that $460 billion will go toward paying for tax cuts, capital gains, and corporate tax rates -- we could throw in some personal income tax rate reduction in order to make sure that the voters don't think it's all about helping the big guys.  But we need jobs, do we not? 
 
Who hires people?  Businesses!  Businesses need tax cuts.  The US corporate tax rate is obscene.  It is the highest of all industrialized nations.  It's 35%.  Cut it.  Cut it in half.  Make the capital gains rate go away for three months, and then get out of the way to see what happens on Wall Street.  And once Wall Street starts ticking up 500 points a day, you watch what happens to the rest of the private sector.  It will follow right along.  This would ensure a bipartisan compromise bill, as Democrats have said that they're always about. It would satisfy the American people's wishes, as polls currently note; and it would also serve as a test, going forward, as to which approach best stimulates the growth of jobs -- and it can be measured side by side.  It could be determined where the new jobs are coming from. 
 
And if President Obama would merely say -- if he would merely say -- that he will take this proposal under serious consideration, we would then see the reaction from the financial markets, which tend to be a barometer of the economy going forward.  That is, if President Obama said that he thought this compromise proposal was worth his time to look at, the markets could react to that, just the way they did when President Clinton announced that he had reached agreement in principle with Republicans to balance the budget in the nineties.  The market reacted positively to that news.  Not to a formal bill signing, but to the news.  If we have learned anything in recent months, the financial markets more than ever look to Washington for direction.   
 
That's bad.  The markets should be looking at the market.  But they're not.  The markets are looking to Washington.  That's where we are.  That's what "is" is.  So let's float a trial balloon on this compromise.  This satisfies every claim and demand of bipartisanship.  This satisfies the people who lost the election.  Those people are also people for which the president is the president.  He's not just the president of the people who elected him.  His job, he says, is to get the economy going.  This would do it.  This would not disenfranchise the people who did not vote for him.  And as I say, not only would it work but it would provide a side-by-side test where we could see which part of this stimulus plan does better, so that the next recession we will know what to do. 
 
The problems Americans face are great, but they are not insurmountable.  They never have been insurmountable.  There is no reason to get up every day and tell the American people that their future is bleak.  There is no reason, as the administration is doing, to depress their hopes.  There is no reason to suppress the notion that recovery can happen quickly, because it can, if we work together.  In this new era of responsibility, let's use elements of both the Keynesians and the supply-siders to responsibly determine which theory best stimulates our economy -- and if elements of both work, so much the better.  We will know.  The economy doesn't have to be liberal versus conservative, or Democrat versus Republican. 
 
And it certainly shouldn't be focused on whether or not one party gets reelected.  The reason it has is because there is such a division in how the economy is viewed by the two parties.  I got a question from a friend just a moment ago when I was talking about the Obamas redecorating the White House, using the same decorator that redecorated the executive suite at Merrill Lynch.  Question: "How come taxpayers get so mad at businesses who misspend their money but can't make that connection when Congress misspends their money?"  It's a great question.  How is it that people that misspend a trillion dollars -- who know how to waste money and lose money faster than anybody -- are thought of as saviors; whereas the people in the private sector, whose job is to generate income for people, are so despised? 
 
And here's the answer.  The people, unfortunately in this country today, see themselves benefiting when government overspends.  They see the rich getting richer when private sector executives overspend.  So the Democrats have foisted, successfully, class envy.  The economy need not be right versus left, Republican versus Democrat, but it is because one group wants the economy to be hands off -- government hands off, let the people who make this economy work, let it work.  The other belief is that that leads too much inequity, unfairness. Government must choose winners and losers so that nobody's feelings are hurt blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.  Well, that's old hat.
 
The American people are made up of Republicans, Democrats, independents, moderates, whatever they want to call themselves, but our economy doesn't know the difference.  Our economy should not be focused on whether or not one party gets reelected.  This is about jobs now. It's about families. It's about solving a real and significant problem.  So let us come together as one.  The economic crisis is an opportunity to unify all of the people in this country if we just set aside the politics.  The leader of the Democrats and the leader of the Republicans (me, according to Obama) can get this done.  This will have the overwhelming support of the American people, because it will bring both sides together.  The Obama-Limbaugh... Let him call it his. The Obama Stimulus Plan of 2009.  Let's stop the acrimony.  Let's start solving our problems, together.  Why wait one more day?  
 
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44 posted on 01/27/2009 2:05:58 PM PST by ConservativeStLouisGuy (11th FReeper Commandment: Thou Shalt Not Unnecessarily Excerpt)
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To: gimme1ibertee

Sorry, I missed your point. You are right; it is sad. But I still expect Rush to be smarter than the enemy.


45 posted on 01/27/2009 5:01:32 PM PST by TheOldLady
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