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Should Auschwitz Be Left to dDecay?
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Posted on 01/26/2009 11:35:43 AM PST by nickcarraway

On the eve of Holocaust Memorial Day, two experts on Auschwitz argue for and against the idea that the former Nazi death camp should be allowed to crumble away.

Historian Robert Jan Van Pelt says that once the last survivor has died it should be left for nature to reclaim, and eventually forgotten.

But former Polish Foreign Minister Wladyslaw Bartoszewski, once an inmate, says Auschwitz must be preserved to bear witness to the fate of its victims.

ROBERT JAN VAN PELT, HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR

Many Auschwitz survivors have told me that a visit to the camp can teach little to those who were not imprisoned there. Their view is best summarised in the text of Alain Resnais' celebrated movie Night and Fog (1955), written by the camp survivor Jean Cayrol. As the camera pans across the empty barracks, the narrator warns the viewer that these remains do not reveal the wartime reality of "endless, uninterrupted fear". The barracks offer no more than "the shell, the shadow".

Should the world marshal enormous resources to preserve empty shells and faint shadows?

Certainly, as long as there are survivors who desire to return to the place of their suffering, it is appropriate that whatever remains of the camps is preserved.

Many of the same survivors who have told me that I can derive little knowledge from a visit to the camp acknowledge that it was good for them to return to the place, anchoring an all-encompassing nightmare back to a particular place.

The world owes it to them not to close such an opportunity for a return. As long as one survivor is still alive, the remains of the camp should remain available.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: auschwitz; holocaust
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To: nickcarraway

Apparently, physical existence and living (still) memory of the horrors committed there are lost on humanity - well, at least on the new ‘progressives’ in control of this country. Their manner, speech and newly formed plans are inching towards the very circumstances and events that perpertrated the environment for these horrors to occur all those decades ago.


21 posted on 01/26/2009 12:03:33 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Frantzie

???


22 posted on 01/26/2009 12:03:43 PM PST by Skid Marx
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To: Skid Marx

??? What? Elie Wiesel is the big Holocaust nobel prize curator or something. He is slobbering over someone who has Hamas people working for him. Hamas wants to kill Jews and Israelis. 78% of (liberal) American Jews voted for someone who has close ties to Hamas. Do you need more?

See another story here about Jews in Sweden being pelted with eggs and tear gas by Muslims.


23 posted on 01/26/2009 12:10:06 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: SERKIT

Great idea - if approached, I bet the childish madman Ahmadinajhad, in a fit of pique, would fund preservation.

Someone needs to ask Iran, regardless. It would make a point if nothing else.


24 posted on 01/26/2009 12:11:59 PM PST by PGR88
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To: nickcarraway

The Iranians and other Moooslims wouldn’t mind, since they know it’s a fabrication, in the first place...


25 posted on 01/26/2009 12:12:27 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: nickcarraway
I was there about a year ago and I thought the buildings were showing wear. Naturally all of the wooden structures are gone but the brick structures are still intact. I posting some pic's here from my trip: Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket
26 posted on 01/26/2009 12:20:29 PM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: nickcarraway

Something as historically significant as this should be preserved for future generations to see, first hand and up close, what power in the hands of evil men can do.


27 posted on 01/26/2009 12:23:27 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Dissent Is Patriotic)
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To: mmanager

The building that is blown-up is the crematoria at Birkenau. The case chamber with the smoke stack is at Auschwitz adjacent to where “Boss” (I believe)was hung. The crematorium is also ajacent to the living quarters of the camp commander. The picture of the wall is next to the building in Auscwitz that was used for summary executions.


28 posted on 01/26/2009 12:25:49 PM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: reagan_fanatic

When I was there one could feel the evil in the place.


29 posted on 01/26/2009 12:26:38 PM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: Frantzie
You're correct on both accounts and I will never be able to figure that out.

But - it has nothing to do with preserving the death camps for future generations to see what a real madman is capable of.

30 posted on 01/26/2009 12:30:04 PM PST by capydick ("History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid".)
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To: nickcarraway

What would they do, put houses there?

I cannot imagine how haunted that place must be.


31 posted on 01/26/2009 12:30:13 PM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: PGR88
Great idea - if approached, I bet the childish madman Ahmadinajhad, in a fit of pique, would fund preservation.

Someone needs to ask Iran, regardless. It would make a point if nothing else.

Thanks. Who's gonna do it? Hillary? Fat chance (pun intended).

32 posted on 01/26/2009 12:30:43 PM PST by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.....)
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To: mmanager

I wish I could afford to go.

While it’s vital we look ahead, it is also important we remember the past, and keeping places like this around will give a physical presence to the horrific evil of that time.


33 posted on 01/26/2009 12:37:52 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (Dissent Is Patriotic)
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To: mmanager

case = gas chamber


34 posted on 01/26/2009 12:39:27 PM PST by mmanager (It is time to prune the tree.)
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To: PLMerite
I cannot imagine how haunted that place must be.

I suggest, if you ever get the chance, to visit one of those places.

Then not only will you be able to imagine it. YOU WILL KNOW.

35 posted on 01/26/2009 12:48:00 PM PST by bigheadfred (Negromancer!!! Run for your lives!!!)
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To: Frantzie

I meant: ‘What Does That Rant Have To Do With The Topic Of This Thread’?


36 posted on 01/26/2009 12:49:49 PM PST by Skid Marx
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To: nickcarraway

It’s ghastly, but it is a monument to the awful things people - and governments in particular - can do.


37 posted on 01/26/2009 12:52:42 PM PST by popdonnelly (Don't lose sight of your conservative principles.)
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To: nickcarraway

National Socialist Obama needs it to remain standing. It’s his model for the future of his political enemies.


38 posted on 01/26/2009 1:02:38 PM PST by deannadurbin
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To: PsyOp

hell, they’ll build a mosque on the site and claim mohammed slept there and it is the ___th holiest site in all of Islam


39 posted on 01/26/2009 1:13:31 PM PST by woollyone ("When the tide is low, even a shrimp has its own puddle." - Vance Havner)
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To: nickcarraway

It should be preserved as a warning to future generations.


40 posted on 01/26/2009 1:45:55 PM PST by DemonDeac
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