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State Farm pulling out of Florida
Palm Beach Post ^ | Tuesday, January 27, 2009 | By RANDY DIAMOND

Posted on 01/27/2009 8:44:22 AM PST by Fawn

State Farm Florida is pulling out of the homeowner insurance business in Florida, the company said this morning, in a surprise move that will leave more than 800,000 policyholders without coverage and will cause almost certain turmoil in the Florida insurance marketplace.

"Faced with steeply declining resources to cover future claims and expenses, State Farm Florida has little choice," said Jim Thompson, president, of State Farm Florida. ''This is not an action we wanted to take, but one we must take given the realities of the Florida property insurance market.

"We regret the impact this will have on our customers, employees and agents in Florida," he added.

Thompson said the plan requires regulatory review, and State Farm Florida will not begin dropping policies under the plan until that process is complete. Florida, however, has no law on the books that would prevent State Farm from leaving the state's homeowner insurance market.

State Farm Florida emphasized that it was submitting a two-year plan that seeks to limit disruptions for customers, and if approved, will allow them time to find coverage with other insurers.

State Farm is Florida's largest private homeowner insurer, second only to state-sponsored Citizens Property Insurance Co.

State Farm is also Florida largest automobile insurer with more than 3 million policies. The company says it will continue to offer auto coverage. However, a 2007 state law pushed by Gov. Charlie Crist prevents insurers from offering only auto policies if they offer both auto and homeowners in other states.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: crist; florida; goodriddance; hurricanes; insurance; socialism; statefarm
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To: ExSoldier

My sister does also — home and car. Crap is right. I guess it’s Citizens for all — and more surtaxes for everyone else to subsidize the increased “state burden.”


21 posted on 01/27/2009 9:04:34 AM PST by browardchad
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To: thackney

You should not buy insurance on anything from State Farm or from Allstate. They are the two best at collecting premiums and the two worst at paying losses.

A few years ago Central Indiana was pounded by a series of fierce hailstorms. Many, many roofs were damaged and had to be replaced. In my neighborhood of 45 homes, probably 60% got new roofs. State Farm and Allstate did not replace any roofs unless they were sued or threatened with suit by attorneys.

State Farm pulling out of Florida is actually a benefit to Floridians. Maybe they can take Allstate with them.


22 posted on 01/27/2009 9:05:37 AM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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To: Drango

Could it be that many of these homes are insured for much more than they are now worth. SF could be protecting against a major payout when the next hurricane comes through.


23 posted on 01/27/2009 9:07:28 AM PST by streetsmart
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To: henkster
You should not buy insurance on anything from State Farm or from Allstate.

Agreed. When I bought my last house, I wouldn't consider getting a quote from either one of them. I would buy from a small unknown company before I would use either of them.

24 posted on 01/27/2009 9:08:22 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: RandallFlagg

This wasn’t supposed to happen with Obama as president.


25 posted on 01/27/2009 9:08:47 AM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Reagan Man
State Farm sees the handwriting on the wall.

Yep, they are seeing hundreds of billions of tax payer dollars being thrown around and want to get a piece. I expect other companies to follow suit. Create an insurance crisis and then demand that the government underwrite their policies. Sadly predictable.

26 posted on 01/27/2009 9:08:56 AM PST by usurper (Spelling or grammatical errors in this post can be attributed to the LA City School System)
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To: proudpapa

Sadly, SF agents are “captive”, meaning that they can not sell other lines, unless their company refuses to bid. This means that they have few “appointments” with other, outside insurers who are competitive and everyone knows they are biased toward their own company, instead of objectively searching the market.

For an agent, independence is a lot to give up for the SF “brand.”


27 posted on 01/27/2009 9:09:49 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Fawn

they will however be more than happy to continue taking your money for life/auto etc policys. i say if they want to continue to do business in the state of florida at all then they should have to continue to write all policys. they dropped our homeowners here in florida last year because we were deemed to be in a high risk area. the home we own was built in the 1940’s and has seen more hurricanes and suffered less damage during that time than the newer homes they continue to insure.


28 posted on 01/27/2009 9:11:09 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: IamConservative

your wouldn’t think that if you new what the state sponsered citizens was getting away with charging........


29 posted on 01/27/2009 9:13:56 AM PST by tatsinfla
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To: Fawn
It's been almost 4 years since we had a hurricane....

You're forgetting the one that hit the whole nation on November 4th.

30 posted on 01/27/2009 9:16:09 AM PST by MahatmaGandu (Remember, remember, the twenty-sixth of November.)
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To: All

someone explain to me why SF is the bad guy in this scenario??


31 posted on 01/27/2009 9:18:02 AM PST by conservativebabe (awaiting inspiration for a new tagline)
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To: henkster
A few years ago Central Indiana was pounded by a series of fierce hailstorms. Many, many roofs were damaged and had to be replaced. In my neighborhood of 45 homes, probably 60% got new roofs. State Farm and Allstate did not replace any roofs unless they were sued or threatened with suit by attorneys.

Same here in Central Texas. After a bad hailstorm a few years ago, just about everyone on our street filed claims for roof damage. Our company (Travelers) paid out immediately. The only two neighbors who had trouble getting their claim approved were State Farm customers.

32 posted on 01/27/2009 9:21:32 AM PST by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Fawn
State Farm is a mutual insurance company for what it is worth. I have State Farm and am content with it. I have high deductable and self insure as much as possible. I want low rates with a responsible payout. Sure the other companies pay out but you pay for it with increased fees. This article has an agenda, and most here are falling for it. State Farm is presented as the villain. But what about the state with all its rules and regulations and abuse by policy holders?
33 posted on 01/27/2009 9:23:36 AM PST by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Fawn

34 posted on 01/27/2009 9:24:34 AM PST by Colonial Warrior (Never approach a bull from the front, a horse from the rear, or a fool from any direction.)
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To: Constitutionalist Conservative

We also had Travelers. Good company to deal with. Had an adjuster out in less than a week, had check in hand four days later. Enough not only for replacement roof, but also to upgrade to 30 year shingles.


35 posted on 01/27/2009 9:27:03 AM PST by henkster (When I was young I was told anyone could be President. Now I believe it.)
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To: conservativebabe

Reluctance to pay claims subsequent the hurricane season in 2004-5.

Rates doubled and tripled across the state, partially due to the artificial increase in property value due to temporary spikes in demand and unavailability.

Taxes doubled.

Non owner occupied and non primary residences became almost uninsurable.

And I left the state.


36 posted on 01/27/2009 9:28:58 AM PST by Eagle Eye (Libs- If you don't have to play the rules then neither do we...THINK ABOUT IT!)
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To: Fawn

Years ago they refused to write Automobile policies in California. It was right when I was trying to get insurance and they refused me. A year later they were cold calling and begging for my business. No way, if you can’t come through when I need you, I don’t ever need you.


37 posted on 01/27/2009 9:29:40 AM PST by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter(the Godfather of Terror) allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: mgc1122
A big part of any private business’s problems like insurers are the bureaucrats and politicians...

I am going to assume that you have no idea what the homeowners insurance situation was like in Florida the last 3 years or so.

Homeowners policies were either being shed by companies, the companies were going bankrupt right and left, or companies were not writing policies and doubling rates year after year. Things were very uncertain for a long time. When you could get insurance at all, the restrictions would leave you without coverage in many scenarios, and the riders required to get decent coverage meant double, triple, or even quadruple what you paid only last month. It was really scary.

Things are more stable now in the market, but it has been a bumpy, expensive ride. All of my insurance business was with State Farm. When State Farm dumped me, I dumped every policy that I had with them. I actually felt bad for the Agent, but I was not going to be played for a chump.

I urge anyone with State Farm insurance in Florida to dump them. After 20 years, they will never see another dime from me.

38 posted on 01/27/2009 9:31:34 AM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: danamco

Bill Nelson is an idiot as is RINO Mel Martinez and RINO Gov Charlie Crist.


39 posted on 01/27/2009 9:34:07 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Travis T. OJustice
Now you are jinxed.

Fortunately for us, it doesn't seem to work like that.

Before Hurricane Anrew, it had been 25 years since a hurricane scored a direct hit on Miami Dade County. The trade off seems to be that when we DO get one after a lengthy period of time, it's going to be a biggie....

40 posted on 01/27/2009 9:34:27 AM PST by ExSoldier (Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on dinner. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote.)
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