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Boehner to GOP: Vote against stimulus
The poltico ^ | 1-2709 | PATRICK O'CONNOR & JONATHAN MARTIN

Posted on 01/27/2009 9:01:13 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71

It was the love affair that could never be, President Barack Obama and congressional Republicans.

The two sides came together en masse Tuesday for the first time since Obama took the oath of office. Despite the niceties, both sides walked away spurned.

In many ways, Obama told the assembled Republicans everything they would want to hear, according to people in the meetings.

He promised to make tough spending choices in his first budget blueprint — “everyone will have to take a haircut,” he said. He told them he wouldn’t increase the size of government just to increase the size of government. He even teased House Minority Leader John A. Boehner about his golf swing.

Likewise, Republicans left the meeting with kind words for the president — but still resolved to oppose him on the floor Wednesday when Democrats bring his massive economic stimulus plan up for a vote.

Beneath the polite give and take between the new president and the newly disempowered Republican caucus, there was a sense that Obama’s honeymoon had already begun to ebb. For the first time, it seems, congressional Republicans, shut out of power and seemingly cowed by the harsh verdict of voters and wild popularity of the new president, are finding their voice, rallying in large numbers against the centerpiece of Obama’s agenda.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 111th; bhostimulus; boehner; gop; obama; stimulus
It's about time! Why wasn't Boehner talking like this when Paulson bailout came to a vote????
1 posted on 01/27/2009 9:01:13 PM PST by AmericanSphinx71
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To: AmericanSphinx71

It would be nice if they were resolved to oppose him. They haven’t so far.


2 posted on 01/27/2009 9:03:34 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (Welcome to Obama's America... Be afraid, be very afraid)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

We’ll see if the Republicans grew a spine, or if this is just a dream sequence.


3 posted on 01/27/2009 9:06:20 PM PST by This Just In (Support Christian Homeschoolers)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

There’s probably not enough money for Boehners lobbyist inorder for hi to sign off.


4 posted on 01/27/2009 9:06:27 PM PST by Tempest (Greed is putting money before PEOPLE.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

Congress has already proved they can’t provide decent oversight for these ridiculous bailouts ——— no more stimulus fiascos.


5 posted on 01/27/2009 9:06:37 PM PST by cowdog77 ("Here on earth all nations hate each other, and every one of them hates the Jew.")
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To: AmericanSphinx71

If the GOP votes for a bill with ACORN money in it, they are finished as a party.


6 posted on 01/27/2009 9:07:16 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
Why wasn't Boehner talking like this when Paulson bailout came to a vote????

Because Bush was a Republican.

There is no principle involved in any of these guys votes, its just oppose the other guy.

Of course he should have been saying this to Paulson but its easier to keep the home team fans happy than lead on principle

7 posted on 01/27/2009 9:08:50 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: AmericanSphinx71

I’ll believe this when the vote is recorded in the Congressional Record.


8 posted on 01/27/2009 9:11:01 PM PST by txnativegop (God Bless America! (NRA-Endowment))
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To: AmericanSphinx71
U. S. Senate

U. S. House of Representatives

Contact Obama WhiteHouse – Warning—responses will be tracked on WhiteHouse.gov

9 posted on 01/27/2009 9:11:12 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

The GOP needs to just say, NO! Let the ‘RATS have full credit for the coming disaster (they created, IMHO). The ‘RATS wanted total control of the country. They’ve got it. Why be token GOPers just going along with this fiasco in a phony “spirit of bipartisanship.” STAND UP AND SAY NO!!!!! Remember what the ‘RATS and their media toadies always say, “Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.” Let’s be patriotic and say, NO!


10 posted on 01/27/2009 9:11:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I wish it was 20 January 2013. I've had enough of this crap already.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
Because the Paulson bailout was sold to the American people as loans to be paid back with interest. I remember hearing that we, the people, would actually likely be making money on the bailout from September. This new bailout is just a free money giveaway to the people who sent money to 0bama’s campaign. We will be paying for it for decades.
11 posted on 01/27/2009 9:15:02 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: AmericanSphinx71
Boehner grows a pair of gonads! Film at 11:00!
12 posted on 01/27/2009 9:15:13 PM PST by April Lexington (Study the constitution so you know what they are taking away!)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

Sheesh! It’s about dang time the PUBS got the stick out of their rear end and really listened to the fraud and the RAT party throwing their weight around.


13 posted on 01/27/2009 9:15:17 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Tempest
“everyone will have to take a haircut,” he said. He told them he wouldn’t increase the size of government just to increase the size of government."

We'll see.

Can the GOP figure the language out?

Take a haircut?
Whether you want/like it or not!

The gummint will be swollen with 'legitimate' , absolutely needed and we'd better do it NOW, program employees. No large budget because no one will be making a hell of a lot.

14 posted on 01/27/2009 9:18:08 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

SOP for the GOP. Close the gate after the cows are out.


15 posted on 01/27/2009 9:19:24 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: April Lexington
"Boehner grows a pair of gonads"

Not too big a pair though. He didn't want to re-engineer his golf swing.

16 posted on 01/27/2009 9:24:16 PM PST by libs_kma (F.U.B.O.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
It was understood that, at all costs, the banks could not be allowed to fail. The operation was sloppy and the results have been less than perfect but it looks like most of the patients will live.
17 posted on 01/27/2009 9:27:49 PM PST by WellyP
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To: AmericanSphinx71

Republicans are only for big government when they’re the ones that run it.


18 posted on 01/27/2009 9:30:36 PM PST by CautiouslyHopeful
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To: knarf

I wish the banks would take a haircut, instead they’re off buying private jets with our tax dollars.


19 posted on 01/27/2009 9:38:08 PM PST by Tempest (Greed is putting money before PEOPLE.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
Why wasn't Boehner talking like this when Paulson bailout came to a vote????

HE WAS! Boehner called the original TARP deal a “crap sandwich,” a phrase Michelle Malkin has used incessently since then for the whole bailout extravanganza.

We need to cut our GOP leaders some slack. The media does the best job they can to make them look like fools and even mostly-smart folks can look bad when the press is after them.

So folks, please dont shoot first and ask questions later. If you arent sure, google and/or call them first to find out their real position.

20 posted on 01/27/2009 9:48:03 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

We need the GOP Senators to put together a FILIBUSTER and shut down the stimulus bill down, so they go back and rewrite it. We can do that with 41 unified Senate Republicans, its a long shot, but doable if every GOP Senator gets on board.

Without a principled conservative opposition to the already excessive liberalism of Obama and the Democrats, the Republicans will have no credibility in 2010. Now is the time to take a stand and filibuster this bad bill.

There are specific demands that must be made:

#1 - filibuster against any spending that occurs after this fiscal year, and insist spending be done later in appropriations for next year; 100% of spending should be focussed SOLELY on this year and out-year spending should be in followup appropriations as conditions warrant. Why tie the USA to trillion dollar debt now for spending that will occur well after the recession is over?

#2 - no spending unless all tax laws are extended until 2013; in short, by raising taxes in 2010, the Democrats are cutting the economy off at the knees; they are killing, not stimulating, the economy; filibuster any bill that does not include delaying the increase in taxes.

#3 - No money for ACORN, for Planned Parenthood, for general pet projects that simply add to Government spending; filibuster any bill that has offensive, wasteful, non-stimulus spending; filibuster any bill that has pork and earmarks.

#4 - Filibuster any bill that is not at least 50% tax rate reductions, ie, real tax cuts; only tax rate reductions and/or direct tax cuts, such as allowing 100% expensing in 2009 of depreciable expenses, would incentivize the private sector.

THERE SHOULD BE 100% REPUBLICAN SUPPORT FOR THIS POSITION.


21 posted on 01/27/2009 9:51:48 PM PST by WOSG (Oppose the bailouts, boondoggles, big Government -)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

boehner looks like he fell asleep during sex.


22 posted on 01/27/2009 10:02:57 PM PST by ken21 (the only thing we have to fear is fdr deja vu.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

At this point, I’ll take even this tiny victory....


23 posted on 01/27/2009 10:18:38 PM PST by Tzimisce (http://groups.myspace.com/nailthemessiah)
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To: WellyP
It was understood that, at all costs, the banks could not be allowed to fail.

What wasn't understood is that this goal was, of course, impossible.

L

24 posted on 01/27/2009 10:22:31 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

I hear the pork in the bill is beyond belief.

Someone needs to publish it.


25 posted on 01/27/2009 10:45:11 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Wiseghy

“I hear the pork in the bill is beyond belief.

Someone needs to publish it.”

See the text of the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (H.R.1424) and more information about the bill at the Financial Services Committee at http://www.house.gov/


26 posted on 01/27/2009 11:00:34 PM PST by yellowroses (a Yankee in Texas)
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To: VRWC For Truth
If the GOP votes for a bill with ACORN money in it, they are finished as a party.

There's enough money for ACORN to install thousands of community organizers and politicians to take significant control of this country. This bill does nothing more than make Obama's reelection a certainty.

The fact that Obama's using it in this manner is tyrannical. It totally undermines the principles of democracy.

27 posted on 01/27/2009 11:50:08 PM PST by TheThinker (Shame and guilt mongering is the Left's favorite tool of control.)
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To: AmericanSphinx71
It's about time! Why wasn't Boehner talking like this when Paulson bailout came to a vote????

he was...I recall the press release whereby he even asked for a special prosecutor to be assigned to investigate matters around fannie mae/et al...the republicans are dealing with the same politics in the House right now they dealt with during the bailout 'hearings' - being shut out of all dealings/meetings and getting very very little press about it imo moo jmo

28 posted on 01/27/2009 11:57:55 PM PST by blueplum
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To: sneakers

bttt


29 posted on 01/27/2009 11:58:21 PM PST by sneakers
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To: TheThinker
The fact that Obama's using it in this manner is tyrannical. It totally undermines the principles of democracy.

Just like all those (excessive) Executive Orders.

Well, a new specific prayer for tonight: that this bill fails.

30 posted on 01/28/2009 12:01:58 AM PST by thecodont
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To: knarf

“everyone will have to take a haircut,” he said. He told them he wouldn’t increase the size of government just to increase the size of government.”

No, of course not. It’ll be for the Greater Good, or The Children, God help us.


31 posted on 01/28/2009 12:33:26 AM PST by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: montanajoe

Bingo....i wish everybody on FR thought this way....but most will now start rooting for the team.


32 posted on 01/28/2009 12:48:45 AM PST by chasio649 (no longer sick of it all ...)
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To: Wiseghy
Someone needs to publish it.

It's right here: Read the Stimulus

It's an anti-stimulus site -- the actual bill, analysis and more.

33 posted on 01/28/2009 1:09:46 AM PST by browardchad
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To: AmericanSphinx71
Obama first sold us the idea of the Stimulus on the premise that it would be used for repairing and rebuilding America's infrastructure. We immediately thought of the broken bridges and fractured freeways in our cities. Surprise! Only 4% of the 800 billion would be used for those things. The rest? Pork!

So I say we contact our congressmen and demand that, after setting aside the 32 billion for bridges and freeways, the rest should be divided among the 139 million people who filed tax returns in 2007. That comes to about $5525 that each taxpayer would be reimbursed. I know there are many filers who pay no actual tax, or very little. It doesn't matter. Those are the ones who will spend their refunds with the greatest abandon. Even if they merely used it to pay down their credit cards, no matter. The point is that 139 million people would do much less harm with all that money than 535 congressmen padding their pockets and those of their cronies.

34 posted on 01/28/2009 1:23:57 AM PST by giotto
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To: AmericanSphinx71
He promised to make tough spending choices in his first budget blueprint — “everyone will have to take a haircut,” he said.

I've never heard this phrase. Is it regional or some Kenyan thing?

Anyway, I'm doubtful that the Republicans have the spine to stand up against this idiotic "stimulation" package.

35 posted on 01/28/2009 1:27:55 AM PST by Allegra ( VOTE, Iraqis! Election Day, Saturday, January 31, 2009)
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To: AmericanSphinx71

Maybe the Republicans need to mix things up a little. As in Boehmer stepping aside and allowing someone else a crack at it?


36 posted on 01/28/2009 7:08:43 AM PST by Leep
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To: txflake; basil

KLBJ had Senator Kay B. Hutchison and Rep. John R. Carter on this morning. Both are voting against the respective bills. I haven’t heard what Representative Lamar S. Smith will do, but I expect him to do the same.


37 posted on 01/28/2009 7:49:10 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dissent is patriotic - Hussein is not and will never be my president.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

I haven’t heard, either. I didn’t hear the radio program this am—but sounds good.


38 posted on 01/28/2009 8:04:09 AM PST by basil ( It's time to eliminate all "Gun Free Zones")
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