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"Progressive" San Francisco's murder rate and dismal unsolved murders gets international attention
Examiner.com/San Francisco ^ | 01/28/2009 | Arthur Bruzzone

Posted on 01/28/2009 8:23:16 AM PST by PrairieFireConservative

San Francisco’s much maligned homicide clearance rate is in the spotlight as the French government has stepped into a cold case murder occurring in the city two years ago.

The inquiry comes on the heels of the “unusual” case of a Jewish activist who managed to fall through to his death via a disabled elevator shaft.

San Francisco’s 800 plus unsolved murders rate ranks as one of the highest in the nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: bluezones; coldcases; crimerate; murders; sanfrancisco; sf
The crime rate in progressive San Francisco is now an international embarrassment - The French government has had to step in to solve the case of French citizen who the local police said committed suicide... but no weapon has been found. San Francisco just cut the number of homicide investigators due to budget cuts.. brillant!
1 posted on 01/28/2009 8:23:16 AM PST by PrairieFireConservative
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To: PrairieFireConservative

Did Monk quit?


2 posted on 01/28/2009 8:25:01 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: PrairieFireConservative

Paging Inspector Callahan! LOL.

What a joke San Fran is.


3 posted on 01/28/2009 8:25:33 AM PST by rom (Obama '12 slogan: Let's keep on hopin'!)
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To: PrairieFireConservative

progressive MEANS failed, stupid policies, encouraging crime, etc.


4 posted on 01/28/2009 8:26:15 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out
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To: PrairieFireConservative

I believe it is “judgmental” and “hateful” to actually blame someone for a murder.

Sow....Reap.


5 posted on 01/28/2009 8:27:00 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: rom; All

Could anyone imagine Inspector Callahan working on San Fran today?


6 posted on 01/28/2009 8:32:38 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (If guns cause crime, then all of mine are defective.)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Nope first time he pulls out his 44 he would be thrown off the force..


7 posted on 01/28/2009 8:36:15 AM PST by GSP.FAN
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To: PrairieFireConservative
The other day the Austrian guy who's the UN's torture guy called our attention to the various UN statements on what torture is about and who gets it and who doesn't.

Anyway, getting beyond his bizarre beliefs about panties on heads and so on, I looked up several things he'd written that are elsewhere on the net.

One of those was a discussion of what a nationstate must do regarding private individuals who undertake to torture people. It turns out the Head of State and other government officials, et al (e.g. Cabinet members, Representatives, Senators, Governors, Mayors ~ even mayors and city council members of San Francisco) can be held accountable in international tribunals for such things.

No doubt murder is "torture" by anyone's definition, and there you have 800 unsolved murders in San Francisco and apparantly no one wants to solve them or do anything to prevent more of them.

Just adding up the numbers here we got Newsome (the mayor), Pelosi (the Congress critter), Boxer and Feinstein (Senators), Schwarzenegger (Governor) and Obama (President) who can logically be held accountable for this sad state of affairs and handed over to an international tribunal for trial.

I say GO FOR IT!@

8 posted on 01/28/2009 8:38:53 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: PrairieFireConservative

Maybe all the Rump Rangers should carry real guns.


9 posted on 01/28/2009 8:46:39 AM PST by DogBarkTree (Sometimes you have to let it go in order to get a Grip.)
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To: PrairieFireConservative
Golly, what could possibly be wrong with the SFPD?


10 posted on 01/28/2009 8:47:52 AM PST by skeeter
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To: PrairieFireConservative

“They are NOT murderers! They are adherents of Alternative Hunting!”


11 posted on 01/28/2009 8:48:06 AM PST by pabianice
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To: PrairieFireConservative

SF sounds reminds me of the Bahamas and Aruba.


12 posted on 01/28/2009 8:50:55 AM PST by Jane Austen (Boycott the Bahamas!)
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To: PrairieFireConservative; Red in Blue PA; rom; muawiyah; skeeter
The crime rate in progressive San Francisco is now an international embarrassment

You ought to see other major cities in other states. Most major cities in other states make San Francisco look safe.

Here is one mid-western city for example.

Kansas City and San Francisco Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People

Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

Kansas City, MO San Francisco, CA National
Murder: 25 11.5 7
Forcible Rape: 71.62 20.64 32.2
Robbery: 456 517.1 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 891.1 326.4 336.5
Burglary: 1650.8 866.5 813.2
Larceny Theft: 4057.4 3202.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 1230.4 889.4 501.5

13 posted on 01/28/2009 9:20:23 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2
I'm familiar with these stats.

Point is SF, which used to be comparatively crime free, is trending in the wrong direction under the clowns currently in charge.

14 posted on 01/28/2009 9:22:56 AM PST by skeeter
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To: PrairieFireConservative

This is what happens when the liberals make the police department a subject for social experimentation and then totally handcuff it with political correctness. Just watch what Obama and company is going to do to the military!


15 posted on 01/28/2009 9:23:33 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: PrairieFireConservative
"San Francisco’s 800 plus unsolved murders rate ranks as one of the highest in the nation."

what the hell does that mean?

16 posted on 01/28/2009 9:23:37 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: PrairieFireConservative

There is no mystery in that case.

The murdered guy was Jewish and he was going to Arabic classes taught by muslims, at one of which he was pushed down an elevator.

The only question is: which if the savages did it?


17 posted on 01/28/2009 9:26:25 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag fire.)
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To: PrairieFireConservative

When the SF mayor puts out ‘public service’ announcements that they welcome ALL illegal aliens and refuses to let LEO’s even question the gangbangers....extreme crime is what you get.

Michelle Malkin » San Francisco values: Another illegal alien ...
San Francisco values: Another illegal alien sanctuary travesty. ... interpretation of San Francisco’s sanctuary law, which bars the city from cooperating in ...
michellemalkin.com/2008/08/21/san-francisco-values-another-illegal-alien-sanctuary-travesty/


18 posted on 01/28/2009 9:28:33 AM PST by AuntB (The right to vote in America: Blacks 1870; Women 1920; Native Americans 1925; Foreigners 2008)
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To: skeeter

You ought to see major cities like St. Louis...It makes San Francisco look like a walk through a church picnic on a clear spring day.


19 posted on 01/28/2009 9:30:23 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: PrairieFireConservative

You know you’re in trouble when Inspector Clouseau has to take over your case.


20 posted on 01/28/2009 9:40:12 AM PST by sportutegrl
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To: dragnet2
The issue isn't the murder or crime rate, but the fact that San Francisco's government has decided to NOT INVESTIGATE the murders.

This is state sponsorship of private terrorism according to UN standards (murder being torture, and San Fran being the "state" that's not bothering to investigate to solve cases or prevent murder).

No wonder France is looking into this!

Obama should be putting San Francisco on the State Department's "Watch List" and warning government employees to not visit the place.

21 posted on 01/28/2009 9:41:21 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: dragnet2

either the graph or the table is wrong on robbery


22 posted on 01/28/2009 9:43:52 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget (July 4, 2009 see you there))
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To: muawiyah
Four of the Police Department's 20 homicide inspectors are near or at the maximum number of overtime hours they may log during the fiscal year that ends June 30, officials say. As a result, their bosses have told them they can investigate only cases they already have and can't work new ones.

Hey, it’s open season in San Fransicko.

23 posted on 01/28/2009 9:45:57 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: muawiyah; PrairieFireConservative
The issue isn't the murder or crime rate, but the fact that San Francisco's government has decided to NOT INVESTIGATE the murders.

Perhaps you should read and examine the posts a little closer prior to typing or commenting.

In #13 I was responding to "PrairieFireConservative" statement below.

""The crime rate in progressive San Francisco is now an international embarrassment""

That is why I commented that San Francisco's crime rates are actually very small in comparison to major cities in other states.

24 posted on 01/28/2009 9:47:14 AM PST by dragnet2
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To: PrairieFireConservative
The French government has had to step in to solve the case of French citizen who the local police said committed suicide... but no weapon has been found.

What did the French Do?

Do you have any links to articles?

25 posted on 01/28/2009 9:56:43 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: dragnet2

“You ought to see major cities like St. Louis...It makes San Francisco look like a walk through a church picnic on a clear spring day.”

The “city” of St. Louis crime rate is due almost entirely to the black population. The surrounding mostly white suburbs are as safe as nearly anywhere in the country.

Does the hideously expensive city of San Francisco have a large black ghetto? Certainly not on the scale of St. Louis.

Therein lies the difference.


26 posted on 01/28/2009 10:02:00 AM PST by EyeGuy
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To: dragnet2
Still, ignore the headline. The article was about murders not being investigated ~ and that's what was stirring up the French head of state!

Whether the rates are too high or too low, there's not enough information in the article to determine that ~ but even if they're low, that's no reason to give up investigating crime!

Besides, I think the mayor and his council should be imprisoned anyway, and this torture angle fits the bill for getting that accomplished.

27 posted on 01/28/2009 10:12:51 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Red in Blue PA
Could anyone imagine Inspector Callahan working on San Fran today?

- Violation: Possesion of non-issued weapon
- Violation: Use of term "hammerhead" violates City proclamation of non-judgemental language
- Violation: Damage to school bus roof caused by use of non-approved pursuit procedure, to be taken out of salary
- Violation: 1973 Ford LTD exceeds current EPA emission limits
- Violation: Many violations of SFPD mobile-pursuit directives
- Violation: Insensitivity toward Asian-American partner

etc...

28 posted on 01/28/2009 12:23:31 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: EyeGuy
You ought to see major cities like St. Louis...It makes San Francisco look like a walk through a church picnic on a clear spring day.

The “city” of St. Louis crime rate is due almost entirely to the black population. Therein lies the difference.

Hmmm.

Los Angeles for example has well over *double* the black population of St. Louis, yet the crime in St. Louis is considerably worse than Los Angeles.

As a matter of fact, St. Louis exceeds Los Angeles in every single major crime category than Los Angeles, and LA has over double the black population than St. Louis.

St. Louis and Los Angeles Comparative Crime Ratios per 100,000 People Latest 2006 Crimes per 100,000 People:

St. Louis, MO Los Angeles, CA National
Murder: 37.2 12.4 7
Forcible Rape: 97.15 27.3 32.2
Robbery: 907.2 370 205.8
Aggravated Assault: 1439.1 377.2 336.5
Burglary: 2453.3 524.8 813.2
Larceny Theft: 6802.4 1539.2 2601.7
Vehicle Theft: 2492.2 654.4 501.5

29 posted on 01/28/2009 9:28:24 PM PST by dragnet2
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