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Hugh Hewitt: Ron Howard discusses Richard Nixon and his Oscar nominated film, Frost/Nixon
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2009 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:19 AM PST by EveningStar

HH: If you’ve listened to this program, you know that I worked for Richard Nixon from 1978-1980, and then again from ’89-’91. I knew him pretty well, I knew him very well in those years. So when Frost/Nixon came out, I sort of was going to be skeptical. What would they do with Jack Brennan? What would they do with the old man? And I loved it. Joining me now to discuss it, Ron Howard, the director/producer of it. Ron, welcome back, good to talk to you.

RH: Thank you, good to talk to you, Hugh.

HH: Congratulations on the movie. What did you learn about Nixon that you didn’t know when you started?

(Excerpt) Read more at hughhewitt.townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aworkoffiction; fakebutaccurate; frostnixon; hollywood; hollywoodreds; hughhewitt; nixon; revisionisthistory; ronhoward; talkradio

1 posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:19 AM PST by EveningStar
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To: sauropod

read


2 posted on 01/28/2009 10:26:52 AM PST by sauropod (An expression of deep worry and concern failed to cross either of Zaphod's faces - hitchhiker's guid)
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To: EveningStar
So let me ask you about the controversial part, which is the conversation between Nixon and Frost which the Nixon people say does not happen, didn’t happen in real life.

RH: Right.

HH: Why use that device?

RH: Well, we said, of course, we say it didn’t happen. I mean, it’s an example of creative license, but creative license born out of research and a desire to offer a more comprehensive sense of both of these characters.And of course, the president was known for some of these rambling, late night phone calls, and not that he was any kind of a heavy drinker, but by all accounts, very light-headed. And you know, I mean if he had a couple of drinks, and if he was taking any sleep medication or anything like that, which he was also, would sometimes do, these calls, he wouldn’t always remember them the next day. And so when Peter Morgan bumped into that in the research, he was looking for a way to have a really personal confrontation between he and Frost off the record that would allow him as the writer, and us as the audience, to really understand that as different as these guys were in personality and outward appearances, they had so much in common.

A bit stilted "plot device". "he was drunk and called him and used expressions that showed he was uncomfortable..."

3 posted on 01/28/2009 10:37:59 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal imigration)
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To: EveningStar
Pretty good interview with Ronnie. I liked that he recognized that Nixon was truly smart. I see the characterization of presidents this way:

Eisenhower -- dumb and boring
Kennedy -- god-like
Johnson -- Good man, overwhelmed by Vietnam, sad story, let's forget about him.
Nixon -- can't call him dumb, so let's call him evil.
Ford -- Dumb.
Carter -- Brilliant.
Reagan -- Dumb
Bush I -- Dumb.
Clinton -- Brilliant.
Bush II -- Dumb.
Obama -- Brilliant.

All the Democrats are brilliant. All the Republicans are dumb -- the only exception is Nixon. They couldn't call him dumb, so they called him evil and hated him all the more.

4 posted on 01/28/2009 10:40:48 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: EveningStar

Ronnie’s a good Goebbels propagandist (he was during the election.)


5 posted on 01/28/2009 10:42:39 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I would amend your description. Bush II - dumbest man ever born (until the next republican is elected).


6 posted on 01/28/2009 10:43:17 AM PST by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Don't forget:

Sarah Palin -- Dumb.
7 posted on 01/28/2009 10:44:22 AM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: goodnesswins

I try to cut Ron a bit of slack because he directed Apollo 13, one of my favorite movies.


8 posted on 01/28/2009 10:45:58 AM PST by Doohickey (The more cynical you become, the better off you'll be.)
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To: keepitreal

I agree. I thought about making a very similar point by listing Carter, Clinton and Obama each as “The most brilliant man ever elected president”. The portrayal of these people by the press is just cartoony. It still staggers me that a guy with a degree from Yale, an MBA from Harvard, a man who can fly a jet, with a successful track record in state-level politics and in business, who runs two successful campaigns for president, can be portrayed as the dumbest man ever born. But there it is.


9 posted on 01/28/2009 10:47:09 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Reagan was simultaneously mule-dumb and brilliantly cunning and evil.

Somehow, using their dented liberal brains, it made perfect sense that he could be both at the same time.

10 posted on 01/28/2009 10:49:22 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: goodnesswins

He and his daddy andy are both red commies.

LLS


11 posted on 01/28/2009 10:50:00 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussein will NEVER be my president... NEVER!)
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To: Doohickey

I NO LONGER give slack....these people are helping this nation march toward socialism/communism....they are to be SCORNED...if not worse.


12 posted on 01/28/2009 10:51:23 AM PST by goodnesswins (Tell the truth - GOEBBELIZATION (propaganda) is what many voters suffer from.....)
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To: a fool in paradise

I heard the interview yesterday. Hugh is good at drawing people out.

Sadly, most people who see this movie will believe every word of it.


13 posted on 01/28/2009 10:59:58 AM PST by EveningStar (Socialism in the USA began in 1933. In 2009 it kicked into warp drive.)
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To: EveningStar
Sadly, most people who see this movie will believe every word of it.

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OTOH, nobody will see this pos who doesn't already believe every word of it.

14 posted on 01/28/2009 11:04:29 AM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: EveningStar

Interesting to read that Ron Howard claims to have voted for Nixon (only he knows for sure and such a claim could be used to brush off his critics), that he knows that Nixon put a number of socially “progressive” programs (and judicial nomination) into place, and yet still decries his politics (claiming that Frank Langella was politically opposite, does that mean that he OPPOSED the socially progressive issues Nixon supported?).

I guess it’s just the “Republican half” of Nixon that was evil.

Perhaps he should do a film investigating LBJ’s own corruption and abuse of power.


15 posted on 01/28/2009 11:04:57 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal imigration)
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To: Doohickey
He slurred the contracting companies in Apollo 13 and got flack from Gene Krantz about it but he held his ground with his fake but accurate embellishment.
16 posted on 01/28/2009 11:06:23 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal imigration)
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To: Doohickey
he directed Apollo 13, one of my favorite movies.

Mine too...but if you listen to the dialog very carefully, Howard does have a couple of throw away lines that are jabs at what he perceives as conservative positions.

17 posted on 01/28/2009 11:06:53 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (All the oil's in Texas...but all the dipsticks are in Washington, DC.)
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To: EveningStar

I watched the Nixon/Frost interviews on TV. The movie is BS. Pretty much nobody cared at the time and nothing interesting came out of them.


18 posted on 01/28/2009 11:07:25 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Jimmy Carter ALSO pronounced the word nuclear as “nukular” and he served on a nuclear submarine.


19 posted on 01/28/2009 11:08:39 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Obama thinks spending tax $ on abortions in Mexico helps more than controlling illegal imigration)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“The portrayal of these people by the press is just cartoony.”

So true. Unfortunately, those “brilliant” liberals buy it. I had a conversation with a hopelessly liberal person this week (a person with an advanced degree, thus uber-brilliant). When discussing moving Gitmo’s finest to Supermax, I argued that with the porous southern border, it would be very easy for terrorists to come up to CO, and take an elementary school hostage to try to extort the release of their buddies. This person said that if that happened it was still worth the loss so that we live up to our Constitutional principles (from a lawyer, no less). I’m still speechless.


20 posted on 01/28/2009 11:14:26 AM PST by keepitreal (Obama brings change: an international crisis (terrorism) within 6 months)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Liberals are the real mouthbreathers. Their only guage for measuring intelligence in others is whether or not they agree with them. They are very adept at recognizing evil, however. Each and every one is evil to the core — Ron Howard being in the forefront.


21 posted on 01/28/2009 11:14:39 AM PST by Dionysius
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To: EveningStar
Really resisted going to see this even though I admire Ron Howard's work. Saw the TV trailers and was very upset that Howard and Langella chose to play Nixon as a caricature the entire movie. In the theater there were only a few of us that laughed at the lines that would favor Nixon but the theater died laughing for every anti-Nixon ploy.

Went with another friend(conservative) and his son. Now mind you, this boy is around conservatives all the time except when he is in a charter christian high school. After the movie we went to get a bite to eat but my purpose was to hear the young man's impression of the movie. He thought that the movie was good and he felt that Nixon was a buffoon(his words). When we went over the movie it was amazing how much of the movie he thought was fact and not artistic license. We tried to explain the truth. He seemed slightly skeptical until I told him that the part that Sam Rockwell plays was how I felt about Nixon in those exact days and months leading up to the resignation and for some time after. The point that we tried to stress to him was that history has a present and a future. Most times history is best judged with the passage of time so that events and people can be put in their proper perspective.

22 posted on 01/28/2009 11:16:03 AM PST by Cyman
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To: EveningStar
I mean, it’s an example of creative license, but creative license born out of research and a desire to offer a more comprehensive sense of both of these characters.


Howard strikes me as really a sort of nasty person. It seems like every time he makes a movie there's some controversy regarding facts and biographies.
23 posted on 01/28/2009 11:16:54 AM PST by macamadamia (Life is a continuation of war by other means.)
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To: Antoninus
"Don't forget: Sarah Palin - - Dumb."

Wow!

When did she get elected president? I musta missed that news flash.

24 posted on 01/28/2009 11:26:06 AM PST by diogenes ghost
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To: EveningStar

This was disgusting. I thought Hewitt was going to tongue him as they embraced. Howard is a disgusting liberal hack. And his brother is the original UGLY!


25 posted on 01/28/2009 12:30:48 PM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: Poser
I am old enough to remember the Nixon Watergate investigations on TV. Today I often wonder, what is that Nixon did that Clinton did not? Nixon was essentially accused of covering up a petty burglary committed by others.
Did he lie? Yes, but so did Clinton.
Did he suborn perjury? Yes he did, but so did Clinton.
Did he interfere with an investigation?: Yes he did ,but so did Clinton.
Was he guilty of the underlying act that triggered the investigation? No, but Clinton was.
The Washington establishment warned us for years about the evil of the cover up; right up until Clinton engaged in one, then it didn't matter anymore. I eagerly await Opie’s examination of the evil Clinton.
26 posted on 01/28/2009 12:34:39 PM PST by Old North State
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To: Doc Savage
Howard is a disgusting liberal hack. And his brother is the original UGLY!

You do know his brother, Clint is more conservative than his brother...
27 posted on 01/28/2009 12:55:02 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: RedMonqey

Isn’t Hewitt friends with Clint Howard or at least has had him on the program several times?


28 posted on 01/28/2009 4:18:13 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: diogenes ghost
When did she get elected president? I musta missed that news flash.

2012. It was all over www.futurenews.com.
29 posted on 01/28/2009 9:21:31 PM PST by Antoninus (America didn't turn away from conservatism, they turned away from many who faked it. - Mark Sanford)
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To: Old North State

I would love to see a real documentary on the real “watergate” which was nothing more than an attempt to recover compromising photos of a prostitute.


30 posted on 01/29/2009 12:21:55 AM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi
Hi I remember the Nixon years. No Fox news no Rush no conservative except Buckley. No Internet only ABC,NBC,CBS. I am sure their reporting on Nixon was fair and unbiased. I think G.Gordon Liddy wrote a book about it. He was one of Nixons plumbers...(called that because it was their job to plug the leaks in the WH.) and he was one of the guys that actually did the break in of the Democrat headquarters in the Watergate Hotel. Nixon found out after the fact and tried to cover for them and failed... Liddy went to prison rather that rat out Nixon like some of the others in the inner circle did......John Dean for instance..I think thats the guy...
31 posted on 01/29/2009 12:43:15 AM PST by goat granny
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