Skip to comments.After suspension for nodding at Obama, drum major quits
Posted on 01/28/2009 11:13:11 AM PST by SERKIT
(CNN) -- An Ohio man who was suspended as the drum major of a band for giving President Obama a nod during last week's inaugural parade is calling it quits. John Coleman resigned from the Cleveland Firefighters Memorial Pipes & Drums a week after the parade in Washington. Publicity about his suspension had gotten to be too much, he told CNN affiliate WEWS.
"It's come to a point where I don't want embarrassment anymore between the pipe band and myself," Coleman, who is a firefighter, told WEWS on Tuesday.
Coleman was seen during the nationally televised January 20 parade nodding toward the new president while marching with the band. A few steps later, he appeared to wave briefly.
He told WEWS that as the band was marching past the grandstand where Obama was sitting, he made eye contact with the president.
"Contact was made with our eyes both together and he smiled and waved at the band," he told the station. "And just as a gesture, I nodded my head. I gave him a slight wave and went on."
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Oh, I feel so sorry the drum major. BABY.
He would've turned to stone anyway.
The band over-reacted on this. I appreciate their desire for military precision but they are not the military and the gent acknowledged the President. Not doing so would have been rude.
Sounds like something under Stalin, Chavez or Castro. I did not read the story. Was he a Obot who fawns over the Ober Mullah Furher?
Poor Democrat baby. I really feel sorry for him. /sarc
Or a pillar of salt.
Given the groveling lately I’m amazed he wasn’t flogged.
Rules are rules. It’s a private organization, and if they have rules about breaking formation and he broke formation, he is subject to whatever legal discipline the organization wants to mete out. Do I think it’s a bit silly? Yeah, but I didn’t join. He did. See Rule 1 above.
Too bad 0’bummer doesn’t quit for being nodded at.
Yeah, if it were the PICCOLO player that winked or nodded, I can see it, but he was the LEADER of the band, and ‘in behalf of all of them’ he was recognizing a new leader of the land. Go figure. Wearing skirts probably after so many years has turned them into girlys.
I seem to recall that many years ago the NY Daily News had a front page photo of a NYARNG soldier in formation in the St Patrick Day Parade tipping his helmet to the Mayor. I don’t think he quit, nor do I recall any followups as to what disciplinary action was taken. Geeez, Joe Stalin waved at this marchers and I believe they waved at him. Hillary? as President? “Eyes left”!! would be the order.
I don’t get it. As the drum major, it’s no big deal as far as I can see. If the band as a group did not think Obama should be honored at the inaguration, they shouldn’t have gone to begin with.
I’m surprised that anyone thinks the band can’t have or enforce rules. He wasn’t tossed out, he was suspended. Then, he quite. If one is not willing to follow the rules, one should not join an organization. He sounds like an “I’ll take my toys and go home” sort.
I want that hat ....
They can choose to enforce whatever rules they follow, I don’t have a beef about that. Just don’t be a rules-are-rules, zero tolerance non-thinking kind of guy. YOu know darn well that there are always exceptions to rules and that some rules are enforced much more than others. Gimme a break. You don’t think if the rest of the squad came under microscope scrutiny they would not have found ANY other technical rule violations that they could have gotten rid of someone?
“I want that hat .... “ Is that all you took away from this thread? I almost lost my coffee when I read your post.
I can always count on reason and logical thought from you.
I want that hat ...
Yeah, then you could get a job at Pizza Hut as a delivery boy. lol...
Well, you can say that if you want, but he has been with the band for 17 years. Marching in the inaugeration most likely was the highlight or should have been the highlight of his career with the band. No matter what we may think of 0bama. This organization almost didn’t even make it there without fundraising.
Where was "The Stork" when we needed him?
Eyes left ... noted zero, eyes front, then left again .. (thinking perhaps he should salute .. in a sense, he WAS in uniform) and gave a half-hearted salute (probably NOT a zero supporter), eyes front and continued marching.
All eye and hand gestures were in keeping with military bearing .... because THAT'S what we're talking about here ... Not rules and/or regs ... but military bearing.
And the man bore himself as well as any other LEADER could/would to an empty suit.
THAT'S what I saw.
n' I'm stickin' TO it !
And so, in 17 years he didn’t know what their protocol was?
(I don't know what that has do with anything, I just like the phrase...)
He’s too damn fat to be a fireman.
Sadly, the Stork offed himself back in 1980.
Holy Smokes! Is that Goldfinger or Phatbastard?
Well, you outrank me, sir. (-:
All I’m saying is that if the organization has a rule about not acknowledging anyone or anything while in formation, and he violated that rule, it’s completely within the organization’s authority to enforce its own rule. I didn’t intend to convey that every rule must be obeyed to the letter by everybody everywhere allatime. That’s what discretion is for; HOWEVER, it’s the folks in charge of the DABC who exercise the discretion, not we. Us. Whatever.
See my post 36 - I don’t think we have any baseline disagreements. And Mahatma, remember that anybody who outranks you and uses it to his/her advantage ain’t worth following.
I'm an extremely sick individual .. ask Mrs. Eggman if you don't believe me
I agree with you. Your initial post came across a little heavy on the rules-are-rules we will not tolerate any violation, kind of way. I am also sure they also could have found other violations, however small, that other members did that day while marching that could have been something they could have enforced the rules on.
He needs 2 straps — one for each chin....
So you are standing outside of Buckingham Palace, in full regalia doing your guard duty. You acknowledge no one as thousands a people a year make silly faces at you and try to get you to change your facial expression. Because on that day, that is your job.
The Queen’s carriage stops in front of you and the Queen, feeling a tad randy tosses you a wave and a wink. You wink back and take a couple of fingers off the rifle and give a little hand genture.
My bet is before the week is out, you are serving eels and mash somewhere, wishing you kept your eyes front and your mouth shut.
Guy blew protocol. Should have ignored the tingle running up his leg.
What is the difference between what he did and what small unit leaders do everyday in the Marine Corps? When a unit marches past a senior officer, the unit leader will salute the officer on behalf of his unit, and offer a crisp "Good morning, sir." It is polite and correct, no matter what the unit leader might think about the officer on a personal level.
I cannot imagine how anyone would object to what he did. The drum major has my respect for doing the right thing -- no matter what others think and no matter what the cost. After all, isn't that the essence of character?
I dig it. I wasn’t being sarcastic. When I see the “Colonel, USAFR” I know it’s going to be a reasoned and logical comment. Sometimes I think I’m the only reasonable person in the room, that’s why I come to FR to verify that I’m not crazy and to read comments from folks that are more knowledgeable than myself. Reason and logic rarely win FRiends, but here I can always count on it being heard at least.
If I'm a member of the Household Division then the Queen is my CO and if she wants to wave at me expecting a response then I'd be well-advised to give her a response lest I'd prefer to be stationed on South Georgia Island for the rest of my enlistment.
True. And I've never stood on the way of a bad officer who is determined to make a fatal (to their career, at least) mistake. (-:
If the Queen addresses a soldier, he’d damned well better answer her. In fact, the Windsors are noted (and appreciated) for personally acknowledging the soldiers who protect them — much like the gracious Bushes have always done. A polite “Yes, m’am” and a subdued smile is a routine and proper response — and I would pity any one of the Queen’s officers who dared to punish a lad for returning her greeting.
"A good drummer is better than no drummer at all" -- Chet Baker
What’s wrong with him nodding to Obama? I don’t see anything wrong with that.
Just an example of how the LibDems (IAFF) can eat their own. I say “MORE COW BELL!!!!!”