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House Republicans Hold Firm (On Stimulus spending. Finally, a party worth supporting)
Powerline ^ | Jan 28,2009 | John Hindraker

Posted on 01/28/2009 7:36:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Congratulations to the House Republicans: all 177 voted against the Democrats' pork-fest bill. Eleven Democrats joined the Republicans in rejecting Nancy Pelosi's fiscal insanity, which, the Congressional Budget Office confirmed yesterday, would actually cost $1.1 trillion.

The Republicans put together their own stimulus package; they say that, using Christina Romer's methodology--she will be the Chairman of Obama's Council of Economic Advisers--their program will create 6.2 million jobs.

Whether that's right or not, the Republicans' plan, unlike the Democrats', was actually geared to job creation. Here are a few highlights. The Republican proposal would:

* Reduce the lowest individual tax rates from 15 percent to 10 percent and from 10 percent to five percent.

* Allow small businesses a tax deduction up to 20 percent of income.

* Finance a $7,500 credit for home-buyers who put down at least 5 percent.

* Expand Net Operating Loss carryback rules to give companies that have been profitable in the past but are now losing money prompt infusions of cash.

* Provide an above-the-line tax deduction for private health insurance to equalize tax treatment between those who have employer-sponsored health plans and those who don't.

For the Republicans, this vote is an important first step toward reclaiming the mantle of small(er) government and fiscal responsibility.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; bho44; bhostimulus; gop; gophousetakeover2010; hindraker; pork
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Now it remains to be seen how the GOP Senators will vote. If they all vote like the Lower House did, the GOP just might have hope after all.
1 posted on 01/28/2009 7:36:53 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
I wouldn't count on the Senate GOP to be as bold in opposing this bailout pork-laden spend-fest. You got a lot of good GOPers like DeMint, Bunning, Inhofe, etc. But then you also have McCain, Graham, Snowe, Specter, and their ilk. I'm predicting it passes the Senate tomorrow with something like a 75-25 vote.
2 posted on 01/28/2009 7:39:41 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: SeekAndFind

Encouraging developments. Stay away from these waves of disastrous legislation.


3 posted on 01/28/2009 7:40:31 PM PST by allmost
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To: allmost

Maybe they are actually listening to the common sense of Rush. Why would any Republican put their name on this failure?


4 posted on 01/28/2009 7:42:25 PM PST by dandiegirl
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To: SeekAndFind

Thank you for the editorial in the headline. 100% correct. Called my R congresscritter today and thanked him and the caucus.


5 posted on 01/28/2009 7:43:30 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Dissent is Patriotic. Palin 2012!)
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To: SeekAndFind

You mean a lot of the same RINO’s who actually set these socialists bailouts in motion by giving the democrats cover with the first bailout. They helped open a Pandora;s box, in which this country may never recover.

Nice that there are now anti bailouts. Would have been better to never help open this pandora’s box in the first place.


6 posted on 01/28/2009 7:43:36 PM PST by tennmountainman
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To: SeekAndFind

The democrats and their media lapdogs will lambaste the GOP for going along with the Wall Street bailout months ago, and now opposing the “main street bailout” - 10 bucks language of just this sort will appear all over the MSM. Honestly, they will have a point - it’s an unforgivable inconsistency - yet things will get better. They already have less than two years to set themselves up as Zero’s opposition, they better get moving if they expect to have any hope of making gains in the midterm elections.


7 posted on 01/28/2009 7:44:56 PM PST by eclecticEel (The liberal's sense of compassion begins and ends with their own person.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Better hold until the after conference finally vote.
8 posted on 01/28/2009 7:45:49 PM PST by org.whodat (Conservatives don't vote for Bailouts for Super-Rich Bankers! Republicans do!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Who are the 11 Democrats who voted “no” on this monstrosity ?


10 posted on 01/28/2009 7:46:48 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: eclecticEel

Already happening - R’s are now “just being partisan” when America wants them to work with the “popular president” they elected.


11 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:07 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

“I wouldn’t count on the Senate GOP to be as bold in opposing this bailout pork-laden spend-fest.”

It’s less a stimulus than a pork-laden spend-fest for pet Democratic causes and industries. Republicans only vote for pork-laden bills that support their own causes and industries.

The good news is the money, the debt, isn’t to be incurred in a year, unlike the bailout money.

Bad news is it is a grabbag of money for the Chicago Crew to dole out.

What happened is the Democrats followed Bush’s example on “crisis mongering” to get a bill quickly through, and adopted the rubric “stimulus” to hide it further.


13 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:10 PM PST by Shermy ("The whole world has financed the United States, ...they have a reciprocal debt with the planet.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Now the Republicans should sponsor a bill. Total expenditure $1.00 just to make it legal. Stimulus for the president salary to reverse the ‘Obama Law of Deminishing Returns.’


14 posted on 01/28/2009 7:48:49 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: tennmountainman

Well said....... should have never voted for any of this to begin with!

This bill economically rapes our children for very questionable benefit and I hope the RINO’s in the Senate shock us and oppose it.


15 posted on 01/28/2009 7:49:07 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Good post on how Rush hammering that Congressman sorts of help get the troops to get focused.

The GOP needs to show a chart of the S&P 500 since June 2008 when O wond the nomination. October when McCain was down in the polls and day after election.

The freepin truth is the economy has been destroyed because Americans with money are terrified of him and OBAMA TANKED THE ECONOMY - ZERO confidence in him

Wake up GOP and get the word out.


16 posted on 01/28/2009 7:51:29 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I wouldn't count on the Senate GOP to be as bold in opposing this bailout pork-laden spend-fest.

If they're wise, they would all VOTE AS ONE AGAINST the stimulus package. What advantage do they have in co-owning a sure to be pork laden bill that does virtually nothing for the economy ?

They don't have the numbers to overturn the Dems anyway, so, might as well make them OWN this mistake and tell their country later -- I TOLD YOU SO -- when it doesn't work ( as it surely won't).
17 posted on 01/28/2009 7:53:05 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: tennmountainman
Would have been better to never help open this pandora’s box in the first place.

Better late than never. And when you're AGAINST SOMETHING, be sure to propose something CONSTRUCTIVE as a better alternative to what's out there. You can't simply be against something. The people also want to know what you are FOR.
18 posted on 01/28/2009 7:54:50 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Does anyone know who were the eleven Democrats?
Boyd (FL)
Bright (AL)
Cooper (TN)
Ellsworth (IN)
Griffith (AL)
Kanjorski (PA)
Kratovil (MD)
Minnick (ID)
Peterson (MN)
Shuler (NC)
Taylor (MS)


19 posted on 01/28/2009 7:55:39 PM PST by The Chief (I'm a Volunteer Fire Fighter!)
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To: thereisno
republicans are a joke. They are history and will now disappear.

Well, I'll say that this unified vote against a VERY BAD BILL tells me that there is a glimmer of hope.
20 posted on 01/28/2009 7:55:57 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Off the top of my head.

Gene Taylor
Heath Schuler
Brad Ellisworth
The two Alabama rodents
Jim Cooper of Nashville


21 posted on 01/28/2009 7:57:10 PM PST by yongin
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To: SeekAndFind

GOP bump


22 posted on 01/28/2009 8:05:59 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: SeekAndFind

A day late and a dollar short for Republicans.


23 posted on 01/28/2009 8:06:35 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Far, far too little... far, far, far too late.

Mike


24 posted on 01/28/2009 8:07:53 PM PST by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: yongin; The Chief; NewRomeTacitus; wardaddy; Blood of Tyrants; Impy; Clemenza

Thank you.

I’m shocked, Cooper is my Rep. and he voted the right way. He is NOT a Conservative. In fact, he was a HUGH & SERIES False Messiah supporter when all but the moonbat Cohen in Memphis were for Hillary. Wonder what got into him.


25 posted on 01/28/2009 8:09:39 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: The Chief

Kratovil? I’m shocked


26 posted on 01/28/2009 8:15:51 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist

All but two, Cooper and Kanjorski, sit in GOP-leaning districts, so they can’t afford to go moonbat at this point. Kratovil knows he’s in a heavy GOP seat (drawn to corral and elect a Republican in order to keep 6 other MD seats Dem) and only won by a fraction of a percent because the RINO incumbent sabotaged the Conservative who bounced him in the primary and endorsed the rodent.


27 posted on 01/28/2009 8:19:30 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: dandiegirl

“Maybe they are actually listening to the common sense of Rush. Why would any Republican put their name on this failure?”

Yup.


28 posted on 01/28/2009 8:26:03 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: SeekAndFind; xsmommy; tioga
Wow! Big-time restrictions on how Congress can piss away our $819 Billion! I now quote from the Bill (a.k.a. "The Mother of All Buffoonery Act of 2009", or, simply "Porkapalooza"):

“None of the funds appropriated or otherwise made available in this Act may be used for any casino or other gambling establishment, aquarium, zoo, golf course, or swimming pool.”

Although, to be fair, there is NO restriction on FLUSHING YOUR MONEY DOWN A TOILET.

http://readthestimulus.org/

29 posted on 01/28/2009 8:30:19 PM PST by TheGrimReaper (Charter Member: Armed Conservative Resistance)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only problem would be if the economy actually does get better and Obama convinces people it was the stimulus package.........then the GOP will look really bad.

However, luckily the stimulus will fail since it has nothing to do with the economy....


30 posted on 01/28/2009 8:34:47 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not a chance in hell this will be defeated.Come on,they all voted for the last one and it was wackier than this bailout.Over 30 percent of this bill is pork and no politician will say no.Please let me know if I turn out to be wrong.


31 posted on 01/28/2009 8:47:38 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am affraid its too little too late.They should have been doing this for years but went along with bemocrat bush and this is where we are.


32 posted on 01/28/2009 8:52:25 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yea, but Kratovil has always been a liberal Rat. He must be reading different tea leaves than I thought.


33 posted on 01/28/2009 8:52:41 PM PST by Nonstatist
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To: Nonstatist

He won’t be reelected in that district voting hard-left. He’s got to point to votes like this at reelection time and tell the constituents he did the right thing. He probably won’t win reelection, but this is the best way for him to try.


34 posted on 01/28/2009 8:56:09 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
If any GOP Senators vote for this bill, Conservatives must defeat them when they are up for reelection. The House sent a message and we must back them up.
35 posted on 01/28/2009 8:59:23 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bail out)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d like to think this was a principled vote, I really would.

But most of the GOP congress critters have already shown that their principles don’t include fiscal conservatism.

My guess is that they held together on this vote; because they are starting to realize that their conservative base is completely disgusted with them, because a no vote was made easier because “porkulus” doesn’t include many goodies for them anyway, and because they’re angry at the dem house leadership for completely shutting them out of the process (and the goodies).

I really do hope I’m wrong because the GOP is the only hope we have in the near term, but I have to believe that for the most part they’re still the spineless bunch of Rinos we’ve come to know and hate.


36 posted on 01/28/2009 9:12:00 PM PST by Swing_Thought (BHO: new lead engineer of the US socialism express)
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To: The Chief
Peterson (MN)

Maybe there's a glimmer of hope for my state after all.

37 posted on 01/28/2009 9:15:10 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Kudos to the House and Senate GOP. Considering that they don't have visible leadership, they're doing pretty well overall.

I think the 0bama 'stimulus' package will be recognized as poison by most everybody eventually. It's good that Legislative Branch Republicans are avoiding it like the plague. Let the idiot Democrats take all the 'credit'.

38 posted on 01/28/2009 9:19:56 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I oppose more tax cuts for the poor. These are the people who voted for Obama. They are voting themselves the treasury. They are directly taking money from me and everyone else who is not a slacker.

Everyone benefits from living in the USA. The idea that 50% or 60% of people contribute nothing and only take is horrible.

The Republicans are pandering with that part of this proposal. “Lets see who can give more bread and circus’s to the masses” is not a worthy Republican position.


39 posted on 01/28/2009 9:22:27 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: SeekAndFind

BTTT good GOP news. I thought those pretending democrat conservatives would NOT vote for this in a larger number...


40 posted on 01/28/2009 9:29:23 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I’m shocked, Cooper is my Rep. and he voted the right way. He is NOT a Conservative. In fact, he was a HUGH & SERIES False Messiah supporter when all but the moonbat Cohen in Memphis were for Hillary. Wonder what got into him.

I was about to ask you about Cooper. I'm stunned that it wasn't Lincoln Davis, Bart Gordon, or John Tanner that dissented. Actually, the fact that only 11 Dems voted against it must show they're not all that apprehensive about putting their names on this bill. Might come back to bite them later on!

Kanjorski doesn't have a GOP leaning seat, but he nearly got beat by Barletta last time, and is probably being a little careful.
41 posted on 01/28/2009 9:45:51 PM PST by Galactic Overlord-In-Chief (Russia invades Georgia? For a moment, I thought that was Red Dawn II)
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To: Galactic Overlord-In-Chief

I expected it would be Lincoln Davis. He’s an already-declared candidate for Governor next year (his House seat is more than likely to go Republican). He’s got to have lost his cotton-pickin’ mind if he thinks that vote is going to help him win in a state that thinks the False Messiah is even worse than AIDS. Cooper is just politically schizophrenic. I never know what the hell he is going to do, aside from just presuming he’ll vote to the left (he was to the left of Junior Ford, but when Steve Cohen succeeded him, Cooper lost his place as most lib, and nobody gets to the left of Cohen. He was proud of being a Marxist Moonbat in his decades in the TN legislature), so occasionally, he’ll surprise with a vote like this (presuming he didn’t vote that way accidentally).


42 posted on 01/28/2009 10:00:16 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats don’t want to help the economy or stimulate anything but their neo-fascist agenda.

One day, maybe, Americans will see that choosing “free” stuff over freedom was a terribly tragic mistake.

The worst part of it all is that the ones who will pay the highest price for this treason are still in pre-school or not even born.

What we are doing to children and future generations ought to make us all ashamed and sick to our stomachs.

This is America’s darkest hour in my opinion.


43 posted on 01/29/2009 12:21:12 AM PST by Boucheau
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To: SeekAndFind

It’s just one vote. Let’s not get too excited here. After all, these are the Republicans we are talking about.


44 posted on 01/29/2009 4:20:52 AM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; yongin

I surprised the GOP ranks held. Impressive. Watch the Senate ranks not follow suit.

Boyd (FL)
Bright (AL)
Cooper (TN) (where’s waldo)
Ellsworth (IN)
Griffith (AL)
Kanjorski (PA)
Kratovil (MD)
Minnick (ID)
Peterson (MN)
Shuler (IN)
Taylor (MS)

Boren (better than his daddy) voted aye I would thought he’d be a no if any rats were. Him an Taylor. Taylor obviously views switching parties as akin to switching sexual orientation or else he would have done it 10-15 years ago.


45 posted on 01/29/2009 4:41:55 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; yongin

Shuler=NC of course

Gearing up to challenge Burr probably.


46 posted on 01/29/2009 6:01:18 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: VRWC For Truth
If any GOP Senators vote for this bill, Conservatives must defeat them when they are up for reelection. The House sent a message and we must back them up.

I totally agree.

The problem is that, since Senate races are statewide, a lot of the time the only way a Republican can win is if they are a RINO (hate to say). I doubt a conservative could win in Maine, for instance. As for others from conservative states like McCain (AZ) and Graham (SC), there is simply no excuse for acting like a leftist, and these should endure a primary defeat at the next opportunity.

47 posted on 01/29/2009 6:09:32 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Nihil utile nisi quod honestum - Marcus Tullius Cicero)
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To: Jack Black
Everyone benefits from living in the USA. The idea that 50% or 60% of people contribute nothing and only take is horrible.

You, sir, are an insensitive, uncaring, evil conservative and I love you for that, man. 8^)

48 posted on 01/29/2009 6:16:13 AM PST by AngryJawa (Obama's Success is America's Failure)
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To: SeekAndFind
Provide an above-the-line tax deduction for private health insurance to equalize tax treatment between those who have employer-sponsored health plans and those who don't.

This is LONG overdue!
49 posted on 01/29/2009 6:22:17 AM PST by DarkSavant
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; Norman Bates; Clintonfatigued

Speaking of Senate races, Public Policy Polling (Dem polling Co) have released some polls about CO. The Bennet guy would easily beat Tancredo and Elway. Bennet also beats both McInnis and Suthers by six. Bill Owens beats Bennet, 44-41.

Ritter’s approval rating is at 47-40. In a rematch, Ritter beats Bob B, 46-40.

Sadly, CO remains in a Marxist Red state of mind.


50 posted on 01/29/2009 9:05:07 PM PST by yongin
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