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F-35 to arrive at Shaw in 2017
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| January 29, 2009
| EMMA RATLIFF
Posted on 01/29/2009 7:29:27 AM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar
Nice, 17 years after the demonstrator first flew, over a decade after the first real model flew.
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:31:11 AM PST
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Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: Travis T. OJustice
Good thing the program was fast-tracked.
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:36:17 AM PST
by
Yo-Yo
To: Jet Jaguar
prognostics concept = “Dave, I’ve just picked up a fault in the AE-35 unit.”
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:36:23 AM PST
by
NonValueAdded
(Confidential to MSM: "Better Red than Read" is a failed business model.)
To: upchuck
To: Travis T. OJustice
By the time these are operational and deployed (in inadequate numbers), the technology will require significant overhaul.
I am in awe of how fast we generated aircraft during WWII.
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:41:01 AM PST
by
Never on my watch
( We need people in office who make their reputation by earning money - not spending it.)
To: Jet Jaguar
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:41:54 AM PST
by
null and void
(We are now in day 10 of our national holiday from reality.)
To: Jet Jaguar
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:42:00 AM PST
by
meandog
(The two named Bush get the bird from this hand!))
To: Jet Jaguar
If Barky doesn’t cancel it as being “too costly.” It would cut into our ability to bail everyone out. Everyone but Lockheed Martin. He will want the Chinese to buy them out.
To: Jet Jaguar
Remember when American industry could run-up a brand new fighter from drawing board to prototype to full-scale production in the tens of thousands in about 9 months?
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:42:26 AM PST
by
AngryJawa
(Obama's Success is America's Failure)
To: Never on my watch
Or Kelly Johnson’s skunk works. Good stuff!
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:42:54 AM PST
by
Travis T. OJustice
(Change is not a destination, just as hope is not a strategy.)
To: AngryJawa
Remember when American industry could run-up a brand new fighter from drawing board to prototype to full-scale production in the tens of thousands in about 9 months? Having Hitler and Tojo knocking at the door provided sufficient motivation - today we take lots of time to make sure the pork gets distributed to the "right" people.
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posted on
01/29/2009 7:51:23 AM PST
by
Mr. Jeeves
("One man's 'magic' is another man's engineering. 'Supernatural' is a null word." -- Robert Heinlein)
To: AngryJawa
“Remember when American industry could run-up a brand new fighter from drawing board to prototype to full-scale production in the tens of thousands in about 9 months?”
NO. Can you? If so, you're pretty darn old!
(Even in WWII it took longer than that.)
To: AngryJawa
“Remember when American industry could run-up a brand new fighter from drawing board to prototype to full-scale production in the tens of thousands in about 9 months?”
Well, let’s be honest here. The P-51 Mustang was a lot simpler fighter plane than the F-35 — no computers, no exotic materials, no interoperability requirements, simple structure, etc. The cause of these long lead times is the fact that everything is so complicated. These modern fighter planes so complex, it is amazing they work at all.
To: Jet Jaguar
2017? Thats coming in way late
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posted on
01/29/2009 8:17:20 AM PST
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valkyry1
To: valkyry1
I thought so too. 2011 was the last report.
To: Londo Molari
I'm not saying that producing an F-35 from scratch should take only 9 months. OTOH, it shouldn't take 20 years either.
They are obviously much more complicated, etc. But then again, our engineering and production capabilities are worlds more sophisticated than they were in 1944.
If one follows the money (which is always instructive), one would be pretty tempted to conclude the aerospace manufacturers were making an everlasting meal out of the project at the taxpayers expense, no?
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posted on
01/29/2009 8:26:43 AM PST
by
AngryJawa
(Obama's Success is America's Failure)
To: Travis T. OJustice
I don’t think they are going to be the first base to get them.
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posted on
01/29/2009 8:27:40 AM PST
by
TalonDJ
To: AngryJawa
Remember when American industry could run-up a brand new fighter from drawing board to prototype to full-scale production in the tens of thousands in about 9 months?
That was back when the plane went obsolete and was replaced within 4 years.
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posted on
01/29/2009 8:29:17 AM PST
by
TalonDJ
To: AngryJawa
They are obviously much more complicated, etc. But then again, our engineering and production capabilities are worlds more sophisticated than they were in 1944.
More 'sophisticated' does not mean faster. Back then aircraft testing was only one step better than 'lets wip one up and see if it does not crash when we try it'. If you study those times you will also see that for every sucessful fighter like they P-51 there were almost a dozen failed programs that never flew or were failures when they did fly. There are a lot of ways the modern programs are not efficient (I should get back to work) but comparing them to the programs of the 40's is apples and oranges.
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posted on
01/29/2009 8:34:26 AM PST
by
TalonDJ
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