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What's good for Rush Limbaugh is bad for Republicans
National Post ^ | David Frum

Posted on 01/29/2009 9:48:49 PM PST by indcons

Gallup's latest polling reveals the continuing collapse of the Republican party's base vote. The news is so very bad that there will be only one possible response from GOP party leadership and our radio talkers: Ignore it.

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Instead, our congressmen talk to and about Rush Limbaugh like Old Bolsheviks praising Comrade Stalin at their show trials. Rush is right! We see eye to eye with Rush! There is no truth outside Rush!

Rush and Hannity and O’Reilly and Ann Coulter and the others have their place and their role. They spoke for an important section of public opinion, and it is a section our party needs. But it is only a section, and not the whole. The more the party allows them to become our public face, the more embattled and endangered the party becomes.

The relationship between these radio talkers and the larger Republican and conservative world has become parasitic and antagonistic. They flourish and profit to the extent they can polarize and radicalize. The GOP will recover only to the extent that it moderates and reaches out. They benefit from controversies that position them as the leaders and designated speakers for conservative America. But the more visible they become, the more our party is shoved to the margins and rendered unelectable. What is good for Rush is bad for the GOP, and what is good for the GOP is bad for Rush.

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Barf Alert
1 posted on 01/29/2009 9:48:49 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons
David Frum , DC insider rhino elitist alert !
2 posted on 01/29/2009 9:49:58 PM PST by ncalburt (Read all about)
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To: indcons

To me Rush is Charles De Gaulle without all the french stuff.


3 posted on 01/29/2009 9:50:03 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: indcons

What’s good for Rush Limbaugh is best for Americans.


4 posted on 01/29/2009 9:51:21 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaNation: Tax cheat sworn in as Treasury Secretary --- you can't make this stuff up !!!)
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To: indcons

Sad to say, but, fruck fum.


5 posted on 01/29/2009 9:51:22 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: indcons

The Barf Alert should be posted alongside the title. Now you made me read 10 lines of this crap..


6 posted on 01/29/2009 9:51:22 PM PST by libh8er
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To: indcons

So sayeth Mr. “axis-of-evil”.


7 posted on 01/29/2009 9:52:10 PM PST by SeeSharp
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To: indcons
Instead, our congressmen talk to and about Rush Limbaugh like Old Bolsheviks praising Comrade Stalin at their show trials. Rush is right! We see eye to eye with Rush! There is no truth outside Rush! ??? Since3 when did the GOP ever listen to Rush?
8 posted on 01/29/2009 9:52:26 PM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: indcons
The GOP will recover only to the extent that it moderates and reaches out.

Frum is just another, "Hey, a little bit of cancer won't kill you," scumbag.
Ignore him.

9 posted on 01/29/2009 9:52:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Oh, how I wish one wouldn’t get banned for saying what you want to say, cause I feel the exact same way.


10 posted on 01/29/2009 9:53:10 PM PST by NinoFan
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To: indcons

Frum is an Obama Republican I guess


11 posted on 01/29/2009 9:53:21 PM PST by GeronL (Had the flu. Not well yet.)
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To: indcons

From reminds me of Hitler in his last days: he imagines entire divisions of moderates who do not exist.


12 posted on 01/29/2009 9:53:43 PM PST by RobbyS (ECCE homo)
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To: indcons
Instead, our congressmen talk to and about Rush Limbaugh like Old Bolsheviks praising Comrade Stalin at their show trials. Rush is right!

Is he on crack? Has any elected official ever praised or mentioned Rush Limbaugh. (Until Obama)

13 posted on 01/29/2009 9:54:03 PM PST by nickcarraway (Are the Good Times Really Over?)
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To: indcons

his new site is aimed at one thing, destroying the conservative wing of the GOP.


14 posted on 01/29/2009 9:54:21 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Seen the comments from Frum’s site about Sarah Palin. The New Majority’s posters hate Palin as much as the Huffington Post.


15 posted on 01/29/2009 9:56:29 PM PST by yongin
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To: RobbyS

Great analogy


16 posted on 01/29/2009 9:57:29 PM PST by indcons (An eye for an eye; a tooth for a tooth.)
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To: Porterville
"To me Rush is Charles De Gaulle without all the french stuff."

How do figure that?

17 posted on 01/29/2009 9:57:34 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

“his new site is aimed at one thing, destroying the conservative wing of the GOP.”

That’s been Frum’s style ever since the little carpetbagger oozed his way over the Canadian border.


18 posted on 01/29/2009 9:58:32 PM PST by Pelham (Beheading is just a different way of expressing ones relational milieu)
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To: libh8er

“The Barf Alert should be posted alongside the title. Now you made me read 10 lines of this crap..”

Consider it “Interpretive Headline Reading 101” (no disclaimer needed). Besides, you’d miss the comments.

Nice pic on homepage btw


19 posted on 01/29/2009 9:58:33 PM PST by This_far
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To: yongin

I read them... and made some pointed replies to them as well.


20 posted on 01/29/2009 10:01:15 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: indcons

The attack dogs have gotten their orders.

And according to Craig Ferguson Rush is just a fat DJ, junkie.

Rush is right again!


21 posted on 01/29/2009 10:01:46 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism, it's the new black.)
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To: indcons

No.

What’s good for Rush is good for the republican party, conservatives, and the rest of the country.

Fixed this liberal douchebag headline.


22 posted on 01/29/2009 10:02:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: indcons

Frum is a queer little man.


23 posted on 01/29/2009 10:02:35 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: indcons

I’m pretty sure that he, Kathleen and the rest of their merry band could never write another column and not one person would ever notice let alone care.


24 posted on 01/29/2009 10:02:52 PM PST by Soul Seeker (Gov. Sarah on Palin '08 -- President Sarah Palin '12)
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To: indcons
"The GOP will recover only to the extent that it moderates and reaches out."

No, the GOP will recover only to the extent that it embraces conservative values/policy. "Moderates" (like Frum) apparently didn't learn a damn thing from McCain getting trounced. The lesson: RINO Road is the path to oblivion.

25 posted on 01/29/2009 10:04:46 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Soul Seeker

I’m confused..

How can nearly 2 million blacks get into Washington DC in sub zero temps in 1 day, when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans in 85 degree weather, with four days notice?

Curious...the media would not bring this up...but I thought it was an interesting question.


26 posted on 01/29/2009 10:07:21 PM PST by Bobbisox (ALL AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE FREEPER...and COMPLETELY DUMBFOUNDED!)
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To: indcons

Of course to the Frums and Parkers of the world the only way the Republican Party can survive is to run far left, promise payouts to everyone, raise taxes and pay lip service to “inclusion”.

All will be right with the world then.


27 posted on 01/29/2009 10:07:56 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Close Gitmo now! Send them to Alcatraz!)
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To: indcons

Yet another Washington liberal telling Americans that conservatism is bad.


28 posted on 01/29/2009 10:08:24 PM PST by 3niner (Hoover turned a recession into a depression, FDR turned it into The Great Depression)
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To: indcons

The GOP would do extremely well to stop their “bipartisanship” crap and get back to core principles. The best way to do that is to listen to EXACTLY what Rush says. If they don’t, I see a grassroots revolt within the party.


29 posted on 01/29/2009 10:10:20 PM PST by dware (3 prohibited topics in mixed company: politics, religion and operating systems...)
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To: indcons

Uh, we don’t care about the Republican party if they don’t advance our values.


30 posted on 01/29/2009 10:10:39 PM PST by Mr. Peabody
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To: indcons

Wowsers!! Frum is picking up on Obama’s tactic and is leading a good old fashioned smear campaign against Rush!!

Rush must have the Obamessiah quivering under the covers at night!! Along with Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, Neal Boortz, Tom Sullivan, Walter Williams, etc., etc., etc.

So, our Dear Leader can talk the talk, he just can’t walk the walk.


31 posted on 01/29/2009 10:11:05 PM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: indcons

Frum, go eat your own feces. And die.


32 posted on 01/29/2009 10:11:15 PM PST by Attention Surplus Disorder (Mr. Bernanke, have you started working on your book about the second GREATER depression?")
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To: Porterville

How’s that?


34 posted on 01/29/2009 10:11:52 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (Actually, it all started back in Mayberry. Helen Crump was a traveler and Floyd, well, you know...)
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To: indcons

Mr. Frum is confused as to which party is most likely to praise Stalin.


35 posted on 01/29/2009 10:12:43 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: blackbart.223

He is our leader in exile since we have a bunch of Vichy Republicans in congress.

Rush Limbaugh, our conservative poliitical leader, ruling outside of idiot contolled DC.


36 posted on 01/29/2009 10:12:55 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: Bobbisox
I’m confused..

How can nearly 2 million blacks get into Washington DC in sub zero temps in 1 day, when 200,000 couldn’t get out of New Orleans in 85 degree weather, with four days notice?

Yours is a good kind of confusion.

37 posted on 01/29/2009 10:13:37 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Bobbisox

Good comment! I must memorize that for the next argument with the relatives.


38 posted on 01/29/2009 10:13:39 PM PST by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: blackbart.223

He is our leader in exile since we have a bunch of Vichy Republicans in congress.

Rush Limbaugh, our conservative poliitical leader, ruling outside of idiot contolled DC.

He is our poltical equivallent to De Gaulle in England.


39 posted on 01/29/2009 10:14:24 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: blackbart.223
He is our leader in exile since we have a bunch of Vichy Republicans in congress.

Rush Limbaugh, our conservative political leader, ruling outside of idiot controlled DC.

He is our political equivalent to De Gaulle in England.

40 posted on 01/29/2009 10:14:44 PM PST by Porterville ( I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum)
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To: indcons

David who?


41 posted on 01/29/2009 10:15:15 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Typical White Guy: Christian, Constitutionalist, Heterosexual, Redneck. (Let them eat arugula!))
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To: Lancey Howard

“Hey, a little bit of cancer won’t kill you,”

IT only takes one dormant cell to wake up and kill you. We need strong effective chemo to get rid of these malignant malevolent McRinos. Rush is the most effective pre-chemo treatment that I’ve seen. He wakes them up so we can knock them off.


42 posted on 01/29/2009 10:16:04 PM PST by A Strict Constructionist (Hitler advocated the nationalization of education, health care, transportation...)
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To: spyone

Frum acts as if John McCain were not the nominee! We ran a moderate who reached out to the left, the media and anyone else. And how did that turn out?

I would see Frum’s point if we ran an arch conservative. But the party ran just the opposite.


43 posted on 01/29/2009 10:17:06 PM PST by Patrick1 (conform and celebrate diversity¬Ö.or else!!!)
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To: indcons

In case Mr. Frum has been asleep at the wheel for awhile, we tried the moderate approach in an election in 2008 with an unprincipled and unweildy John McCain and got our lunches handed to us.

One would think we’d pursue something of a more principled stuff than the turncoat, wobbly-kneed mush offered by the center.


44 posted on 01/29/2009 10:17:19 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: VeniVidiVici

In their desperation to get the GOP to “reach out” they’re completely blind to the fact that when the electorate views the Donks and Elephants as indistinguishable the Donks win every single time, and that only when Republicans distinguish themselves by their adherence to conservative principles does the GOP flourish.


45 posted on 01/29/2009 10:17:33 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Porterville
"He is our political equivalent to De Gaulle in England."

Not quite. De Gualle was puss.

46 posted on 01/29/2009 10:17:47 PM PST by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: indcons

Does this guy remember the term “Reagan Democrats?” There were millions of them.


47 posted on 01/29/2009 10:18:07 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee ("A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.")
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To: indcons
Instead, our congressmen talk to and about Rush Limbaugh like Old Bolsheviks praising Comrade Stalin at their show trials. Rush is right! We see eye to eye with Rush! There is no truth outside Rush!

This is truly dishonest hyperbole.

First of all, when it comes to accusations like, "Old Bolsheviks praising Comrade Stalin", Frum needs to look towards the Dems and their messianic blind trust in Obama, not to mention that the Dems are trying to hitch America to a one-way ticket to a liberal social-economic gulag. What a stupid turn of a phrase.

And where are all these constant references to Rush by GOP pols? "There is no truth outside of Rush"? The only reason Republicans mention Rush is when they are asked to admonish Rush for some line that he said on his talk show.

Apparently Frum believes that we should simply swallow the stimilus bill that doesn't stimulate anything but in fact pays off and perpetuates a myriad of Dem-friendly constituencies. Thus Frum is asking the Republicans (and Rush) to support the bill that provides the knife that would very possibly create the death of the party by a thousand cuts...so as to prove we are moderate.

48 posted on 01/29/2009 10:20:03 PM PST by torchthemummy (My apologies if this post retreads on ground already covered!)
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To: indcons

Jealous much, Frum?

I especially like the quote: “Rush is right! We see eye to eye with Rush! There is no truth outside Rush!”

Ironic—all I seem to hear is Obama’s Right.....there is no Truth outside Obama”


49 posted on 01/29/2009 10:20:16 PM PST by GatorGirl (Proud member of the Gator Nation!)
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To: indcons

David Frum makes a good point. Why should we follow Rush Limbaugh when we can follow illegal alien, drug dealer, terrorist sympathizer Barack Obama.


50 posted on 01/29/2009 10:20:37 PM PST by exist
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