Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Creationist cosmologies explain the anomalous acceleration of Pioneer spacecraft
CMI ^ | Dr. Russell Humphreys

Posted on 01/30/2009 5:47:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 last
To: 1000 silverlings; ToGodBeTheGlory; metmom; Fichori
Well as much as I admire your passionate take on theology, it's not "earth" that's at the center of the universe, in theology

Can't agree with that. - The universe is the creation, and God exists outside of the creation. Earth is the physical center, and the reason for all the rest that lies beyond it. The physical creation is temporary, and when we transcend the physical, then God will be indeed the center for all of us.

41 posted on 02/01/2009 6:32:49 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
God constantly sustains the universe by His Word and though it is created, He is still the source of it. It does not, and cannot exist apart from Him. Our reality that includes the earth is just a dimension and spiritual reality is a dimension as well. Not everyone is within the latter and furthermore no one knows where the boundaries to the spiritual lie, Jesus said it is within.

The spiritual Jerusalem is the mother of all the spiritual and it comes down from Heaven, intersecting this dimension, as above, so below.

Spiritual man's relationship to God is at the center of where the 2 Jerusalems meet, above and below.

42 posted on 02/01/2009 9:39:21 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings

Sounds remarkably similar to the new age mumbo-jumbo that the drug users spout.

Regardless, it is in no way a disproof of the statements that you originally disputed.


43 posted on 02/02/2009 6:59:25 AM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: tacticalogic

LOL...no you and a few others stick out like sore thumbs.


44 posted on 02/02/2009 8:30:58 AM PST by tpanther (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing---Edmund Burke)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor

I see you have never studies the Hebrew scriptures, lol


45 posted on 02/02/2009 10:00:28 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts
ping

46 posted on 02/02/2009 10:02:22 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 78:35 And they remembered that God was their ROCK, And the Most High God their Redeemer.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: tpanther

Care to name names, or is that enemies list supposed to be a secret?


47 posted on 02/02/2009 10:31:13 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 44 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
Or if you are unfamiliar with the OT theology, try the new.

Hebrews 1:1

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

48 posted on 02/02/2009 11:12:52 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor
As above,so below

Hebrews 8:5

Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.

49 posted on 02/02/2009 11:21:04 AM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings

None of this is relevant to the subject at hand.

Why the shuffle and smoke screen?


50 posted on 02/02/2009 1:20:09 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: editor-surveyor; Dr. Eckleburg
Shuffle and smoke screen? I have supported everything I said in describing this present reality with the theology presented in the bible. Do you know what "theology" is?

You appear to think that God created the earth and walked away, that all there is is some sort of physical existence, the earth, sun and stars, that has no ongoing connection to the living God. What does He do, sit out there and look at it all day?

The bible says that He sustains it constantly with His Word. That He gave the blueprint patterns for worship (spiritual reality) to Moses based on the temple in Heaven. Jesus said His kingdom was within us,and was not of this world (spiritual reality).That the Heavenly Jerusalem (spiritual reality) is the mother of us all.

Sorry to upset your little world but there's more to existence than pie in the sky dispensationalism.

51 posted on 02/02/2009 1:35:54 PM PST by 1000 silverlings (Everything that deceives also enchants: Plato)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: 1000 silverlings
"Sorry to upset your little world but there's more to existence than pie in the sky dispensationalism."

I can see that you'd love to believe that, but it marks you as one of the "foolish virgins."

The clear prophecies contained in the Lord's "appointed times" require that we be awake, and prepared for the exact time of each fulfillment. Your hollow theology precludes that awareness, and replaces it with new-agey fluff, and gnostic confusion.

No, you've not upset my world, but you have exposed to all that are aware of his exqusite prophecies the grim vapor of yours.

52 posted on 02/02/2009 7:08:42 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 51 | View Replies]

To: GodGunsGuts

this is TOWARD The Sun, from outbound craft. I think the phrasing is confusing some people.

...an ‘apparent anomalous, constant, acceleration acting on the spacecraft with a magnitude ~8.5×10−8 cm/s2 , directed towards the Sun.’...

It is a deceleration, since the craft are moving away from the sun. It looks to me like someone has this backwards. (like all the creationist cosmologists)


53 posted on 02/08/2009 8:14:56 PM PST by Tulkas
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Tulkas

==It is a deceleration, since the craft are moving away from the sun. It looks to me like someone has this backwards.

That someone is you.


54 posted on 02/08/2009 8:29:40 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 53 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-54 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson