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Understanding Hollister v Soetoro a/k/a Obama, Biden
Obama Crimes ^ | January 31, 2009 | Sven Magnussen

Posted on 01/31/2009 8:09:07 PM PST by SvenMagnussen

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To: SvenMagnussen
Obama can't release any papers showing he was born in the US because he wasn't!

Simply releasing certified documents could have cleared this up months ago.

We have a fraudulent pretender living in the White House.

There is no other reasonable explanation for his continued refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.

21 posted on 01/31/2009 10:47:09 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: SvenMagnussen
So, if I understand this correctly, Hollister is a member of the armed forces, and he is suing to find out if Soetoro/Obama is a lawful president, because, as a member of the armed forces, Hollister may in the future have to perform duties and/or follow orders given by Soetoro/Obama. Hollister’s “asset” is his military status.

If that is what this case says, I think it's a good idea. Technically, since noon on January 20th, everything the military has done, all orders followed, are from Soetoro/Obama. If he is not a lawful president, then the military has acted illegally (is that right?). What a can of worms that could open!

22 posted on 02/01/2009 4:57:49 AM PST by Humal
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To: Humal

It’s important to understand that Hollister is not claiming injury due to fraud or misrepresentation. Also, Hollister is not seeking compensation or recovery of funds due to fraud or misrepresentation.

Hollister is asking the Court to hear witnesses and examine the evidence to determine who is the rightful person to receive the asset he now holds. His asset is his duty to sacrifice liberty if recalled by order of the Commander in Chief.

As pointed out in the filing, the Court has held assets in Interpleader cases can be intangible assets with a minimum value of $500 or more.


23 posted on 02/01/2009 6:12:06 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Change is coming!)
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To: maine-iac7

Who is it?


24 posted on 02/01/2009 6:16:42 AM PST by angcat ("When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe".)
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To: hoosierham

He has released a valid birth certificate.


25 posted on 02/01/2009 6:19:26 AM PST by mlo
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To: hoosierham
There is no other reasonable explanation for his continued refusal to produce a valid birth certificate.

And if he WERE born in Honolulu but his real father is not the coal black, round headed Kenyan that he looks nothing like, but is his Indonesian "step" father, whom he does resemble - not to mention the Indonesian man in Jakarta, the VERY city he lived and went to school in when under the name Barry Soetoro?

Is the refusal to show his BC to cover up his true heritage, not where he was born?

it would be even more alike compared to a photo of 'Barry' at the same age 34...

Wonder why little barry's mom married Soetoro, an Indonesian, and moved with him to Jakarta?

wonder wonder wonder. Sometimes the eye can see more than the brain...

Barack Sr.

As Someone on the net wrote:

"A friend of mine theorizes that Barry is really half Indonesian and half white.

Obama Sr was a willing beard or duped into thinking Barry was his. [willing, maybe, because it would be helpful to have an "American" child?]

The real father was Lolo or another Indonesian foreign student from the U of Hawaii. [After her divorce, Dunham married Indonesian student Lolo Soetoro, who was attending college in Hawaii.]

The mother seemed to be all about Indonesia and Pakistan her whole life.

Once Barry left Hawaii ( after finding his original birth certificate-pg 26, Dreams from My Father ), his friends, roommates and travel destinations were not African based, but, Indonesian and Pakistani based. This picture validates that his theory is entirely plausible. " [he recalls: Of his early childhood, "That my father looked nothing like the people around me — that he was black as pitch…”

“ Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 for five years, and then in 1977 went back to Indonesia, where she worked as an anthropological field worker. She stayed there most of the rest of her life,…” wikipedia]

young barry with his granparents

and his younger Indonesian lookalike


26 posted on 02/01/2009 7:38:34 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: angcat
Who is it?

See post 18 and 26

27 posted on 02/01/2009 7:40:06 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: SvenMagnussen
a photo of barry's Indonesian sister - daughter of his mother and Lolo Soetoro - resemblance?
28 posted on 02/01/2009 7:50:05 AM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: mlo
He has released a valid birth certificate.

He released a document verifying his eligibility only on the internet. Has anyone responsible for verifying his eligibility ever seen the actual document?

The document he posted on the internet is suspected to be a forgery. What has Obama (Mr transparency) done to show that it is not a forgery?

29 posted on 02/01/2009 7:51:55 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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To: TruthWillWin

Pay mlo no mind, he/she is a fraud on this issue and probably gets paid to defend his master.


30 posted on 02/01/2009 8:53:32 AM PST by Uncle Sham
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To: mlo
He has not;else it would be used as evidence in these court cases to refute the assertations.Instead,they are dismissed on legal lack of standings and other technicalities.

A badly hacked copy of a questionable Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii has ben posted on the internet.

A few dollars and weeks will get a state issued and stamped,verifiable birth certificate copy from most any place in the U.S.,even from "backwards" Kentucky .

Barack Hussein Obama is a con man,a huckster, a fraud perpetrated on the Presidency of these United States.

31 posted on 02/01/2009 10:42:55 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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"He has not;else it would be used as evidence in these court cases to refute the assertations.Instead,they are dismissed on legal lack of standings and other technicalities."

That's not the way it works. The evidence would be produced if a case was ever heard. Since they have not been, it is not produced.

"A badly hacked copy of a questionable Certificate of Live Birth from Hawaii has ben posted on the internet."

There is nothing "badly hacked" about it.

"A few dollars and weeks will get a state issued and stamped,verifiable birth certificate copy from most any place in the U.S.,even from "backwards" Kentucky."

And if you ask Hawaii to do that, what you get is precisely the document that was scanned and posted on the internet.

All this birther stuff is made up arguments with made up facts. It's a myth. The reality is Obama was born in Honolulu and he won the election because the economy sucked. In four years, if the economy still sucks, he'll lose. Some of us have such a hard time accepting that we're willing to sound like the "Bush was selected not elected" crowd. This stuff is no more true than that was.

32 posted on 02/01/2009 8:48:01 PM PST by mlo
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33 posted on 02/01/2009 8:52:43 PM PST by IrishPennant (Patriotism is strongest when accompanied by bad politics, loyal FRiends and great whiskey)
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To: coon2000
Does anyone have an approximate dollar figure in what Hussein has spent so far on legal teams to keep his COLB from being viewed?

Of course not.

No one can possibly know that. Since the law in Hawaii is that no one except Obama can get it, and no court has ordered him to do so, he probably has had to spend almost nothing.

The "millions of dollars" fantasy is like the "travel to Pakistan forbidden to Americans" lie - just made up out of whole cloth.

34 posted on 02/04/2009 4:29:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Tom Daschle's favorite tune: "Baby you can drive my car")
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I assumed he at least had to have lawyers address the lawsuits, did he not?


35 posted on 02/04/2009 7:43:54 AM PST by coon2000
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