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For anyone who is hungry or eating poorly, I have a secret to share. (Hussein's America)
2/01/09 | Unknown

Posted on 02/01/2009 5:26:12 PM PST by Libloather

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To: Libloather

There is not one single person in the United States too poor to eat well.

Anyone who says otherwise is a liar.


51 posted on 02/01/2009 7:31:42 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (They moved my pie.)
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To: JoeProBono
I absolutely agree!

Food is a basic right for anybody who wants to earn it.

2 Thess 3:10

10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
KJV

Note that it says "would not"; not CAN NOT.

52 posted on 02/01/2009 7:32:34 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Arthur McGowan
> In most places, you aren’t trespassing if it isn’t posted, or you aren’t told to get off.
> Also, it’s not illegal unless you’re caught.

Your first statement wouldn't hold water in any court. The second statement is so absurd, it's almost Clinton-esque.

53 posted on 02/01/2009 7:33:00 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Paved Paradise
so being out at 11 p.m. foraging for food isn’t going to be very good for the sleep cycle.

Where I came from, they called that "coon hunting"!

54 posted on 02/01/2009 7:39:37 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: Dust in the Wind
We don't wait for them to ask. We know they are broke and want to preserve their dignity.

A lot of the jobs have been small.

However, I will say this: From past experience, not everyone is to be trusted.

But, one man in particular, is the son of a deceased friend of ours. If we needed him in the middle of the night, he'd be here.

Besides the lack of work for people who are not slackers, we are hearing that these low interest rates have cut into the dividends of seniors. They are having a hard time stretching their money - and don't you think the government knows it ...

55 posted on 02/01/2009 7:41:45 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: AUsome Joy
Does anyone have a recipe for a Depression era desert that was delicious - I think it was Chocolate Sundae Pudding. You put the dry ingredients in a baking pan, then pour boiling water into a corner of the pan and bake. You get a chocolate cake with a creamy chocolate topping.
56 posted on 02/01/2009 7:47:17 PM PST by ArmyTeach (You have a Republic, Madam, if you can keep it...)
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To: lakey

To go back even further, my parents used to tell stories from the Depression about *rent parties*. The people who needed rent money would make a huge pot of spaghetti, everyone who could would bring something and there was a jar for the rent. If you could put something in, you did. If you had nothing, you could still come and eat.

For those looking to stretch their money as far as possible, try Aldi’s. It looked to me like small canner lines. The expiration dates were all good, sometimes 18 months out for beets or potatoes. The paper goods are perhaps one step down from Sam’s Members Mark line, but as cheap as you’ll find...TP starting at about .40/roll, for example. Some items were the same as Walmart, others matched brand name sales in other stores in the area that week. Some were obviously good deal special purchases. Produce was so-so; price and quality is much better at one of the local grocery stores. But for canned goods and paper and cleaning aids like vinegar, it was as cheap and as good for the price as I have seen. No bags, a refundable quarter for the cart and, since I was told it was cash only, that’s what I did, but I saw some state subsidy cards being used. I will go back, now that I have an idea of their inventory and prices. I will also try and check out the specials when I have a chance. Mostly frozen dinner items, like pizza, but maybe 1/3 off the discount grocery stores. I think they are owned by the same people who own Trader Joe’s.


57 posted on 02/01/2009 7:53:21 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: lakey

To go back even further, my parents used to tell stories from the Depression about *rent parties*. The people who needed rent money would make a huge pot of spaghetti, everyone who could would bring something and there was a jar for the rent. If you could put something in, you did. If you had nothing, you could still come and eat.

For those looking to stretch their money as far as possible, try Aldi’s. It looked to me like small canner lines. The expiration dates were all good, sometimes 18 months out for beets or potatoes. The paper goods are perhaps one step down from Sam’s Members Mark line, but as cheap as you’ll find...TP starting at about .40/roll, for example. Some items were the same as Walmart, others matched brand name sales in other stores in the area that week. Some were obviously good deal special purchases. Produce was so-so; price and quality is much better at one of the local grocery stores. But for canned goods and paper and cleaning aids like vinegar, it was as cheap and as good for the price as I have seen. No bags, a refundable quarter for the cart and, since I was told it was cash only, that’s what I did, but I saw some state subsidy cards being used. I will go back, now that I have an idea of their inventory and prices. I will also try and check out the specials when I have a chance. Mostly frozen dinner items, like pizza, but maybe 1/3 off the discount grocery stores. I think they are owned by the same people who own Trader Joe’s.


58 posted on 02/01/2009 7:54:05 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: reformedliberal

Sorry for the double. Hiccups,


59 posted on 02/01/2009 7:57:23 PM PST by reformedliberal
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To: combat_boots
My parents lived thru the Great Depression. I learned frugality from the experts! And they taught us all (5 sons) to take care of ourselves. We all know how to cook quite well. When I was in USAF basic training, I thought it odd that they taught you how to make hospital corners when sheeting a bed. My mom taught me that in early grade school!

Dad taught us how to garden, even using the alley for growing okra. He taught us how to call up quail and shoot them with a .22.

I remember my Grandmother churning butter in the kitchen at her house out in the piney woods of East Texas. We'd go get eggs from the chicken coop every day.

I try to instill these things in my kids (daughter 9, son 7). I want them to be indepentant as we were taught. My brothers and I are a generation from the past. I wish more were...

60 posted on 02/01/2009 7:57:23 PM PST by Antoninus II
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To: ArmyTeach

I don’t know that recipe but my mother made a delicious chocolate pudding using cornstarch, not flour. You could probably get the recipe online.


61 posted on 02/01/2009 7:59:21 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: lakey
My husband and I look for work around our home for out-of-work people.

Be careful with that. Remember Elizabeth Smart. She was the young girl kidnapped by a handyman her father had given work to.

This isn't like the Depression - many out of work people are out of work for a reason.

62 posted on 02/01/2009 8:00:18 PM PST by speekinout
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To: Libloather

My local food bank works with the local grocery stores to process imperfect and near-expired food in a more orderly fashion than at 2:00am with flashlights.

http://www.nhfoodbank.org/


63 posted on 02/01/2009 8:02:36 PM PST by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: reformedliberal

http://www.angelfoodministries.com/

Angel Food Ministries
You can get a box of groceries to feed a family of 4 for a week for 30.00. They buy in such volume that they can provide about 65.00 worth of food for the 30.00 price. A friend of ours who volunteers there says there are no applications or checks, anyone can purchase. She said many of the members of her church buy from the ministry and use the savings to help others. They donate the money they save to other outreach ministries.


64 posted on 02/01/2009 8:06:45 PM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.)
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To: reformedliberal
With all fingers and toes, I couldn't count the number of friends who have eaten spagetti at my house. LOL

There's another good one my son loves - use macaroni. He used to call the chopped up hamburger "little meatballs." Garlic salt and salted butter is the key. Unfortunately, I am salt-restricted now.

We live too far from everything. It would cost a lot to drive down to Phoenix - I don't particularly care for Sam's Club.

If you have a sunny window, you can grow tomatoes inside. Kind of messy but... I've also grown beets in the house during the wintertime.

65 posted on 02/01/2009 8:09:41 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

The things that really are wasted, just in the U.S.-yikes!”

If you really want to get mad- volunteer to work in your area school cafeteria.

The kids eligible for a free breakfast are very wasteful, and the lunch program is equally wasted. Local schools here in Reno area are supposedly even “sending home 2 bagged lunches” for kids the teachers and staff deem to be “not getting decent food at home”. I say take the kids away or re-hab the parents, or take steps to stop the mothers from having more who will end up in the same status.

No evidence if this food really gets eaten, but there are more of your tax dollars flying away.


66 posted on 02/01/2009 8:10:41 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: JoeProBono

This is your brain on drugs-—the aftermath.


67 posted on 02/01/2009 8:11:36 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ArmyTeach

Sunday Chocolate Pudding Cake

Cook Time: 40 minutes
Ingredients:
1 cup flour
3/4 cup granulated sugar
3 tablespoons cocoa
2 teaspoons baking powder
1/4 teaspoon salt
1/2 cup milk
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
1 teaspoon vanilla
3/4 cup brown sugar
1/4 cup cocoa
1 3/4 cups boiling water
Preparation:
Directions for chocolate Pudding Cake
Heat oven to 350°. In a mixing bowl, stir together flour, sugar, 3 tablespoons cocoa, baking powder and salt. With a fork, mix in milk, oil and vanilla. Spread the batter evenly in a lightly buttered 9-inch square baking pan. Combine brown sugar and 1/4 cup cocoa; sprinkle over the batter. Slowly pour boiling hot water over the batter and brown sugar-cocoa mixture. Bake chocolate pudding cake for 40 minutes. Let chocolate pudding cake stand for 5 minutes. Spoon into dessert dishes or cut into squares. Top chocolate pudding cake with ice cream or whipped topping.


68 posted on 02/01/2009 8:13:46 PM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Years ago, the Imperial Valley lettuce fields had a bumper crop. Good news for consumers? Not hardly.

The DISTRIBUTOR owners of the crop, since these crops are already sold before planting, were ‘harvesting’ every third head initially; that was later changed to every fourth head.

The farmer was still paid the contracted prices, and the produce companies stil owned what was left in the fields. Not even the farmer was legally allowed to pick a single head for their own kitchen use.

It all had to do with optimal control of price. Pick “too much”, and the income from those “extra” heads would drop the price just enough to not increase profit. Pick “too little”, and the false scarcity would drive prices too high to sell at an increased profit.

They have professionals who calculate this optimal profit/harvest down to the last pound practically, and that much and no more is picked; the rest is left to rot or to be plowed under; sometimes entire fields or orchards...but the farmer was still paid his base payment.

Same with any produce, be it onions, potatoes, or berries, or orchard fruits and nuts.

OTOH, small farmers, who do not deal with the major packers, have to sell any and all to whatever markets are available to them.


69 posted on 02/01/2009 8:14:01 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: speekinout
Do I ever remember Elizabeth Smart!

Don't you remember me? I was the one who challenged Jolly Green and Sherlock, among others. Neth Moul, the garageman, lied for law enforcement and Chief Dense finally, in the end, admitted it.

We NEVER heard Ed's 911 call. Quite unlike the Anthony case - over and over and over.

70 posted on 02/01/2009 8:17:18 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: lakey
I guess I need to pay more attention to the message boards in the local gathering spots. Or at some point put one on for myself. It is a wonderful thing to share in a way like you are doing.

There are many long time (10+ years) widows in this community. Their families and the churches seem to be doing the right thing here.

71 posted on 02/01/2009 8:25:56 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the cleanup crew.)
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To: count-your-change

And this kind of thing continuously happens all over the world. Now, how can any to all of world politics ever successfully become non-wasteful at any given point in the future, when everything else in the world that can possibly be wasted far to often is? “Do onto others as you want done onto you.” But, if an individual seriously has wasteful personal habits and yet seriously also wants all politicians to shrink the size of government, cut taxes, eliminate taxes, fully privatize everything involving the government, fully practice free market reforms on a variety of issues, etc., how can worldwide conservatism ever actually completely succeed at any given point in the future? The existence of socialism, communism, and all other forms of leftist politics also far too often successfully suppresses people from greatly improving upon their own government.


72 posted on 02/01/2009 8:29:01 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (Conservatives obey the rules. Leftists cheat. Who probably has the political advantage?)
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To: ArmyTeach

There actually used to be a mix for this at the grocery store. It was called Chocolate Pudding Cake. They also had a Lemon Pudding Cake. I once had the recipe for a good one, but just now I googled Chocolate Pudding Cake boiling water and several recipes came up. Here is a link to one version:

http://southernfood.about.com/od/chocolatecakes/r/bl30202a.htm

This is so good warm with vanilla ice cream.


73 posted on 02/01/2009 8:33:25 PM PST by AUsome Joy
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To: Libloather

Dry beans and cornbread, my friends, Dry beans and cornbread..


74 posted on 02/01/2009 8:50:32 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: hope
Put some long grain rice with that and the protein mix will be more complete.
75 posted on 02/01/2009 8:51:58 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the cleanup crew.)
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To: Dust in the Wind
The Roman Catholic Church in my little town is doing what they can. To my knowledge, they don't discriminate.

I'm not Catholic but I certainly support them.

There is so much we can gain from sharing - look on these troubled times as a blessing. I try.

76 posted on 02/01/2009 8:55:38 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: hope

Oh gad! My husband’s favorite meal.


77 posted on 02/01/2009 8:59:03 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: lakey
We've got food banks and ministerial alliances around these parts. It's all good.

Need to call it a night. God Bless

78 posted on 02/01/2009 9:00:21 PM PST by Dust in the Wind (Just part of the cleanup crew.)
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To: Dust in the Wind
Sweet dreams.

I have to get back to Alamo-Girl and betty boops books.

79 posted on 02/01/2009 9:07:34 PM PST by lakey (Politicians thrive on chaos. So, they create it!)
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To: lakey

LOL! it’s a main staple for surviving...


80 posted on 02/01/2009 9:09:12 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: Dust in the Wind

Yep...survival staple.


81 posted on 02/01/2009 9:10:04 PM PST by hope (in mourning)
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To: johnthebaptistmoore

I may be a bit thick, so could possibly be a tad clearer about what you expect me to understand from your reply?


82 posted on 02/01/2009 9:10:49 PM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Libloather

A while back I was waist deep leaning into my garbage can trying find something I’d accidentally tossed out. My neighbor saw me and shouted that if I was that hungry he’d feed me.


83 posted on 02/01/2009 9:14:18 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: Libloather

Why not just go to the local food shelf?


84 posted on 02/02/2009 5:01:45 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Lizavetta
I managed at a restaurant supply company for years. We donated all of our foods with damaged packaging to the local food shelf. There is really no reason to be throwing good food away.
85 posted on 02/02/2009 5:06:52 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: JoeProBono

Yeah and working is an obligation not an option.


86 posted on 02/02/2009 5:07:51 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: ApplegateRanch

I learned how to do price/supply optimization like you described in my business calculus class. It is done in every business.

If the companies you describe knew what they were doing, however, they would have secondary markets for their excess products. Just as an example, I work for a computer chip manufacturer. We used to pay to have our defective or excess wafers hauled away as hazardous waste (they contain lead etc). We now repurpose them as wafers to use in solar panels.

This is business 101.


87 posted on 02/02/2009 5:34:53 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

The law in Maryland is: If the property is not posted, and you aren’t told to get off the property by the owner, you aren’t trespassing.

I was once acquitted of trespassing at a Planned Parenthood because the director of murdering babies told us to get out—but the OWNER of the building wasn’t there.


88 posted on 02/02/2009 8:08:49 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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