Posted on 02/01/2009 6:09:06 PM PST by ETL
Springsteen's Homage to Pete Seeger
By Tom Moon
World Cafe, April 25, 2006 - On the new collection We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions, Bruce Springsteen honors the folk music tradition that has inspired many of his own compositions over the years. All the tracks on the new album are standards closely associated with folk icon Pete Seeger.
Springsteen assembled large ensemble of acoustic musicians to flavor the proceedings with everything from accordion to tuba. Rock critic Tom Moon talks with host David Dye about why he reacted so strongly and positively towards this latest offering by The Boss.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5360791
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"We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration At The Lincoln Memorial"
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/4Jfw6fON_zH/One+Obama+Inaugural+Celebration+Lincoln+Memorial/1NNi5cTZF2d/Bruce+Springsteen
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetwork.org:
Profile: PETE SEEGER
*Musician, folksinger, songwriter, and political activist
*Joined the Communist Party in 1942
*"I'm still a Communist" -- Pete Seeger, 2004
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1619
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NYT Writer Corrects Record: Pete Seeger 'Only' 40 Years Late in Denouncing Stalin
By P.J. Gladnick
2007-09-02
The New York Times has now corrected [1] a "smear" about Pete Seeger being 50 years too late in denouncing Stalin. Thanks to the intrepid research of Times reporter Daniel J. Wakin, the record has now been set straight. Pete Seeger was only about 40 years too late in criticizing Stalin.
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2007/09/02/ny-times-writer-corrects-record-pete-seeger-only-40-years-late-denounc
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"Seeger was antiwar during the period of the Nazi-Soviet Pact; pro-war after the Soviet Union was the ally of the United States; and anti-war during the years of the Cold War and Vietnam. To Nichols -a rather dense left-winger -it is good form to acknowledge that perhaps 'Stalin was a bad guy,' and then simply get over it, and move on to campaign for very American socialist causes." --Ronald Radosh (former communist)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=01133F31-CE9A-40BC-B797-47CBB0023EF4
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"... on April 22, 1970, [the very first] Earth Day was held, one of the most remarkable happenings in the history of democracy... "
--American Heritage Magazine, October 1993
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Earth Day, April 22, 1970:
"The nationwide event included opposition to the Vietnam War on the agenda, but this was thought to detract for the environmental message.
Pete Seeger was a keynote speaker and performer at the event held in Washington DC."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Day#Earth_Day_1970
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Vladimir Lenin
Владимир Ильич Ленин
Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars
In office: November 8, 1917 – January 21, 1924
Born April 22, 1870
Died January 21, 1924
Political party Bolshevik Party
Profession Politician, revolutionary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin
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Earth Day founded on Lenin's 100th birthday? --yeah, it's a "coincidence". LOL!
Crap.
He’s just a rock musician; if you don’t like what he says, turn the volume down.
As long as he’s singing, he’s almost as good as Bob Seger...
Good grief.
When Springsteen runs for office is when I’ll give a feces about his politics.
As far as Seeger goes, his singing has brought joy to many misunderstood people, including Joe Stalin and many American Communists. What are the lives of the 50-60 million non-and less-than-enthusiastic communists slaughtered by the Soviets? I am sure you can see that it is but a small price to pay for bringing the communist utopian message to the unwashed.
Just glad he ain’t my boss.
I partially grew up listening to the guy, I new he was a lefty because he hated Reagan back then, but he kept a lid on it for the most part, but when he went full on moonbat I microwaved all my CDs from him and would never put a nickel in his pocket again.
He disgusts me. There is only so much you can handle sometimes.
I’m sure he has no problem with his music becoming “the people’s” music, right?
We can copy it without paying him now, right?
If culture was so unimportant, the communists wouldn’t have made such a point of capturing it.
People don’t seem to get it or care. That’s why we are where we are.
Crap. I'm just a FR poster; if you don't like this thread I posted, click on a different one.
There are a LOT of dopes, even on the right, who play Springsteen's "Born in the USA" on the 4th of July and other patriotic occasions. They actually think it's a pro-American song.
LOL! I don't think so (assuming we would want to copy any of em).
I generally don’t pay much attention to celebs who are incapable of speaking in complete sentances.
Certainly back in the day there where. I remember the Reagan campaign tried to use it for an ad in 1984.
“The Boss” loudly campaigned for “change” for John Kerry in 2004, then recently went whole hog for Obama, claiming that Bush “destroyed lives” and lied to start a war, etc. It was so gratifying to have such a Great American for the Superbowl halftime celebration tonight. /not
no kiddin’
why not “Just Shut Up and Sing” for Ted Nugent, Charlie Daniels?
Pretty much it’s “Shut Up and Sing” ...unless I like your message.
Please just go away.
“I generally don’t pay much attention to celebs who are incapable of speaking in complete sentances.”
I don’t know if Bruce speaks in complete “sentences”.
Betcha he spell it though.
For every Ted Nugent or Charlie Daniels, there are at least 50 left-wing performers like Springsteen. That’s 50 times the influence on American culture.
If Bruce loves communism so much, he needs to prove it by distributing his assets back to the people. My gut tells me he’s worth close to a billion by now.
So, let all the conservative singers speak but only 2% of the liberal ones.
That should even it out, yes?
I wonder if Pete ever told Bruce of the “stories of John Doe” and his support of Hitler until Adoph attacked good old Uncle Joe
I wonder if Pete ever told Bruce of the “stories of John Doe” and his support of Hitler until Adoph attacked good old Uncle Joe
The more they speak out, the more they reveal what asses they are. The only problem is they get a LOT more favorable coverage in the MSM than those rare few pro-American entertainers.
Bruce is to 70’s 80’s rock fans what the Dixie Chicks are to country music fans.
They alienate half their customer base every time they condescend to impart some of their socio-economic-political wisdom on the world.
That said, if you saw the Boss on the Superbowl half time show it was like watching your great grandfather trying to get down in ghetto town.
He looked and sounded like he was ready to have a stroke right there in the stadium.
But fortunately, for the medical team, he was able to finish the set.
He wouldn't have needed to hear it from Pete. It's all in the public record.
"Seeger was antiwar during the period of the Nazi-Soviet Pact; pro-war after the Soviet Union was the ally of the United States; and anti-war during the years of the Cold War and Vietnam. To Nichols -a rather dense left-winger -it is good form to acknowledge that perhaps 'Stalin was a bad guy,' and then simply get over it, and move on to campaign for very American socialist causes." --Ronald Radosh (former communist)
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=01133F31-CE9A-40BC-B797-47CBB0023EF4
Who? Me or Springsteen? :)
“They alienate half their customer base every time they condescend to impart some of their socio-economic-political wisdom on the world.”
So, you’d advise Ted Nugent to “shut up and sing”?
Nice strawman. Nobody said anything about “letting” anyone do anything. They voice their opinions, we voice ours. You have a problem with that?
Before rock music became hyper-politicized, Nugent did “shut up and play”. Only after the entire industry allowed itself to become a megaphone for the political left did Nugent start speaking out and standing up.
There is no comparison.
Springstein was amazing tonight! Only because he performed musically and didn’t give us his political opinion...And, that is all I will ever pay for.
Urban Dictionary:
1. sentance
a string of words that does not satisfy the grammatical rules of a language
I now use the Urban Diktionary cause I want to be one wif our president.
Seeger and Springsteen are 2 of the biggest NOTHINGS I have ever seen. I’m more impressed with a hang nail.
Why do you feel the need to defend this anti-American POS, Bruce Springsteen? Your responses would be more appropriate on DU than FR.
IMO, the word 'amazing' has lost nearly all of its meaning in recent years. People use it to describe just about everything these days.
Well out of the last 3 Super bowl games I have to say that Springstien out did the Stones, Tom Petty and for God’s sake that mess that Janet Jackson created a few years back. At 59, Springstien did good...Because he performed and did not preach his politics for once.
Springsteen was denouncing Reagan on stage shortly after election night in 1980. It’s nothing his fans don’t already know about him.
Why Springsteen and his tribal grunting have ever been popular, I’ll never figure out! Give me the Beatles, U2, or Paul McCartney ANY day!
As to Seeger .. he’s just a misguided folk singer. No harm in that. It’s not like anyone takes his politics seriously.
Agreeance. "Amazing" is the new, favorite buzzword of like, sorority girls. When I hear someone use it in a sentence, I automatically discount their opinion!
As to Springsteen .. he was just as crappy as ever. If he'd actually try opening his mouth when he sings, he might not sound like some Indian .. oops .. Native American, doing some kind of tribal grunting. And the beginning where he laid on the ground holding the mike stand in the air between his legs .. was he doing some kind of free ad for Vagra?!
Hey Bruce: The 80's called .. they DON'T want their music back!
“Springstein was amazing tonight!”
Really? I thought he was pathetic. He wasn’t in good enough physical shape to sing his songs without becoming so winded that he had to skip phrases.
Additionally, he was using every trick in the book to hide the fact that he’s losing his voice and can’t hit the high hard ones any more.
True. I love a lot of music and I assume most of these artists I like have big problems. Some died very young others were hopeless idealists...but I don’t listen to them for their politics. Musicians don’t have to be rational folks...that’s the other side of the brain.
Yeah, Bruce isn’t exactly a great musicians from what I’ve heard.
In case you aren't aware, people with Seeger's 'no harm in that', 'misguided politics' have just taken control of the White House.
Give me the Beatles, U2, or Paul McCartney ANY day!
Speaking of misguided politics...
The Lost John Lennon Interview
"Power to the People"
TA (interviewer): In a way you were even thinking about politics when you seemed to be knocking revolution?
JL (Lennon): Ah, sure, 'Revolution' . There were two versions of that song but the underground left only picked up on the one that said 'count me out'. The original version which ends up on the LP said 'count me in' too; I put in both because I wasn't sure. There was a third version that was just abstract, musique concrete, kind of loops and that, people screaming. I thought I was painting in sound a picture of revolution--but I made a mistake, you know. The mistake was that it was anti-revolution.
On the version released as a single I said 'when you talk about destruction you can count me out'. I didn't want to get killed. I didn't really know that much about the Maoists, but I just knew that they seemed to be so few and yet they painted themselves green and stood in front of the police waiting to get picked off. I just thought it was unsubtle, you know. I thought the original Communist revolutionaries coordinated themselves a bit better and didn't go around shouting about it. That was how I felt--I was really asking a question. As someone from the working class I was always interested in Russia and China and everything that related to the working class, even though I was playing the capitalist game.
http://beatlesnumber9.com/lostlennon.html
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John Lennon lyrics - Power To The People
Album: Shaved Fish
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Say you want a revolution
We better get on right away
Well you get on your feet
And out on the street
Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
A million workers working for nothing
You better give 'em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into town
Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
I gotta ask you comrades and brothers
How do you treat you own woman back home
She got to be herself
So she can free herself
Singing power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Now, now, now, now
Oh well, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Yeah, power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people
Power to the people, right on
http://johnlennon.lyrics.info/powertothepeople.html
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John Lennon
Imagine
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world...
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
“Yeah, Bruce isn’t exactly a great musicians from what I’ve heard.”
Can’t really say as I remember watching the Woodstock 2 thing in 94 and being shocked that Bob Dylan could not play with his band. They were struggling to try and keep him coherent. It was really bizarre.
But Dylan is a great songwriter regardless.
Now Bruce I can’t really say. He has an old and loyal following in NJ and at one time back in his youth I heard he won a guitarist of the year award for the state. Don’t know if that’s true but I remember hearing it.
Now I don’t love his political perspective as it’s full of holes but I think he has been a voice of the blue collar guy in NJ and that has carried him far. His love of Seeger the communists I could do without as well.
But hey, 10th Avenue Freezeout was great last night and Clarence sounded super.
I despise his politics also, but for crying out loud, the man isn’t 24 anymore. I
I used to be a big Springsteen fan. He could never hit the high hard ones. I liked him when his music was fun. Now it’s all depressing songs about the downtrodden that we should help. If I wanted to be depressed I’d talk to my family not pay money to go to a show or buy a CD.
Wouldn’t this have been more appropriate when The Seeger Sessions came out?
I thought he did pretty good last night. Better as the set went on. I don’t care for his politics, but those weren’t on display last night. He is coming to town in April and I’m thinking about going. I wonder how political he will be in Oklahoma.
I saw him do a chord change that was breathtaking in its musical complexity and required him to move his fingers at least twice. I also found out that he is fatter than Johnny Cash, since he didn't quite fit in to the costume he obviously picked up at the Cash Estate Yard Sale.
The knee-slide? Slinging the guitar around his neck? Wow! Or at least Sham-Wow!
He had Pete Seeger up on stage with him at Obama's friggin inaugural!
"We Are One: The Obama Inaugural Celebration At The Lincoln Memorial"
http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/4Jfw6fON_zH/One+Obama+Inaugural+Celebration+Lincoln+Memorial/1NNi5cTZF2d/Bruce+Springsteen
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetwork.org:
Profile: PETE SEEGER
*Musician, folksinger, songwriter, and political activist
*Joined the Communist Party in 1942
*"I'm still a Communist" -- Pete Seeger, 2004
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/individualProfile.asp?indid=1619
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I saw all of that the first time you posted it. Still an old dude at one concert for one song isn’t as high profile as when he released an entire album of the man’s work. Regardless of his political beliefs he is a pretty influential figure in music.
Excellent point - good way to look at it.
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