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Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | February 01, 2009 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 02/01/2009 8:02:02 PM PST by Man50D

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IMHO the following provision in the bill is the key.

(f) Cooperative Agreement for Joint Use of Existing Military Installations- If an existing military installation other than a closed military installation is designated as a national emergency center, not later than 180 days after the date of designation, the Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of Defense shall enter into a cooperative agreement to provide for the establishment of the national emergency center.

This provision will allow BO and the socialists in Congress to close military bases consequently removing them from the military authority and thereby weakening the military,ending free speech and creating a stronger centralized form of government.
51 posted on 02/01/2009 8:27:14 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: screaminsunshine

FEMA Camps already exist.


52 posted on 02/01/2009 8:27:53 PM PST by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: Kimberly GG

lol He does not have that good a rep. If he put up links to back up his assertions, it may help.


53 posted on 02/01/2009 8:28:06 PM PST by DBrow
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To: allmost

Hastings was once kicked out of office, I think. Rush should have a ball with this little tidbit. New Dachau? New Bergen-Belson?


54 posted on 02/01/2009 8:28:41 PM PST by pankot
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To: pankot

Take your pick here. I’m not going and that’s all I know.


55 posted on 02/01/2009 8:29:16 PM PST by allmost
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To: trumandogz

I’ve heard that now and then. Where are they? I would not want to be near one.


56 posted on 02/01/2009 8:29:25 PM PST by DBrow
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To: pankot

“Hastings was once kicked out of office, I think. “

I think he is an impeached judge.


57 posted on 02/01/2009 8:30:04 PM PST by DBrow
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To: LucyT

ping


59 posted on 02/01/2009 8:30:46 PM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to defend liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-200)
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To: WellyP

yep he is.


60 posted on 02/01/2009 8:30:56 PM PST by television is just wrong
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To: Man50D

Choips like a joick, don’t he?


61 posted on 02/01/2009 8:31:13 PM PST by Waco
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To: television is just wrong
this is NOT satire.

No, it's WND. Satire is just as likely to be true, but at least it's funny.

63 posted on 02/01/2009 8:38:41 PM PST by ReignOfError
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To: allmost

Reeducation camps...


64 posted on 02/01/2009 8:40:25 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: ReignOfError
No, it's WND. Satire is just as likely to be true, but at least it's funny.

Are you serious????? Read the bill in post #27. There is nothing funny about this legislation! It's meant to prevent any dissent against socialism!
65 posted on 02/01/2009 8:41:01 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: television is just wrong

You said — “this is NOT satire.”

But some of the comments posted here might as well be satire and mental derangement... LOL...


66 posted on 02/01/2009 8:41:59 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Man50D
Rep. Hastings has been trying for a few years.

"Under Representative Hastings' legislation, National Emergency Centers would be located on military bases with a preference wherever possible for those installations closed during the most recent Base Realignment and Closures (BRAC) Commission recommendations."

That was H.R. 1796 in 2007

.. and again this year. Two sources

Here

and here. H. R. 645 22 Jan. 2009

I guess it's all how you think these camps can be used. Ostensibly these are to have facilities ready in case of another Katrina. Hmm, I wonder if my freezing hillbilly kin would be allowed in -- even if they did not vote for Obama.

67 posted on 02/01/2009 8:43:07 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: pepperhead; allmost

You said — “Reeducation camps...”

That’s simply *tinfoil* conspiracy talk and mental derangement...

For quite a while, now..., it’s been made absolutely clear by all in government that the next major terrorist attack is not a matter of *if* — but *when*. And so, when it does come, it could be a major nuclear or biological attack, with outbreaks of Islamic terrorism mixed in and around the country (in addition to the major attack).

I would *expect* to see a major metropolitan area *wiped out* by either a biological weapon or a nuclear weapon of some sort.

Therefore, the establishment of “National Emergency Centers to house an entire metropolitan area of refugees (yes, “refugees” in our country) will be absolutely necessary.

The wording of the bill...

SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.

(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure—
(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;

(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;

(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and

(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.

(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.

(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be—

(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;

(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;

(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;

(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;

(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;

(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:

(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and

(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and

(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.


68 posted on 02/01/2009 8:44:23 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: pepperhead
They’de have to destroy the general area in order for the people to go there voluntarily en masse.
69 posted on 02/01/2009 8:45:12 PM PST by allmost
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To: Star Traveler

I like your take on it much better Star Traveler. Which branch abides by these laws again?


70 posted on 02/01/2009 8:47:32 PM PST by allmost
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To: eclecticEel; television is just wrong

You said — “No, but it’s written by Corsi, so it might as well be. I’ll wait for a more reliable source before I descend into my bunker.”

The building of these disaster centers is real — and — the “derangement” exhibited by some comments here are “real” [derangement] too.

It seems Free Republic has degenerated into a significant group of obsessive/compulsive people specializing in various “derangement syndromes”... centering on all sorts of “conspiracies”... LOL..

I posted the wording of the bill below, just above...


71 posted on 02/01/2009 8:47:43 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: DBrow

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3010


72 posted on 02/01/2009 8:48:09 PM PST by AirForceMom (Locked and loaded, and sharpening my pitchfork.)
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To: television is just wrong

You said — “check out the HR bill it is for real and started by a Florida Democrat.”

And it’s something that is “long overdue” and should have been done in the Bush Administration. It’s just too bad it has taken so long to get this stuff in order...


73 posted on 02/01/2009 8:49:05 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Scotswife
is this real or is this typical whacko ranting from worldnutdaily?

That's what I was thinking. This can never happen in the U. S. Get a grip people. They can't throw you in prison for posts on freerepublic.... Wait, someone is knocking on my door. Who could that be at this hour?

74 posted on 02/01/2009 8:49:36 PM PST by Know et al (Everything I know I read in the newspaper and that's the reason for my ignorance: Will Rogers)
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To: gidget7

You said — “How bout looking up the bill. Would be a good place to start.”

I posted some of the wording to the bill up above...


75 posted on 02/01/2009 8:50:03 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Morgana
“Japanese-American Internment Camps”

Also German-American and Italians-Americans were interned. Although not in as large numbers.

Interesting side note.

While liberal icons such as FDR, Earl Warren were enthusiastic supporter of denying Japanese-Americans of their civil rights, Arch villain of liberals and boogie man of the Left, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover was on notice that this was unnecessary and did not support interment.

76 posted on 02/01/2009 8:52:04 PM PST by RedMonqey
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To: Clint Williams

You said — “Prepare to be incarcerated with registered sex offenders. At least until you’re led off to the gas chambers.”

That’s baloney. This is something that was *long overdue* and should have been in place a long time ago. The Bush Administration should have completed several of them, but didn’t even start. That’s a failure on their part...

This is for the coming major terrorist attack for one thing, and then secondly, it will also serve as a place where people could have gone to, when the New Orleans disaster happened. But, it wasn’t there at that time. Hopefully these centers will be in place and fully ready in short order.

The next major terrorist attack will most likely involve a major metro area being nuked or a biological weapon being dropped on it. The two major terrorist groups in the United States are Hezbollah and Hamas — both being funded by Iran...


77 posted on 02/01/2009 8:53:44 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: allmost

You asked — “I like your take on it much better Star Traveler. Which branch abides by these laws again?”

If it’s a disaster of the size of a major terrorist attack, wiping out several major metropolitan areas, you could be talking about martial law. Then it would be FEMA operating under whatever those laws would be at the time.

Otherwise, in a disaster like that of New Orleans, again it would be FEMA, but under more limited powers than an overwhelming national disaster like a major terrorist attack.


78 posted on 02/01/2009 8:56:28 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Man50D

I hope this will help folks here to understand what is happening and perhaps why Congressman Hastings has proposed this legislation.

Yesterday a blog called Market-ticker.org, written by Karl Denninger, posted the referenced article below (I’ve provided a pertinent excerpt). He predicts that our nation is on the edge of a complete financial collapse. You can bet that our government knows that too.

There are three generations of welfare families living in inner cities which have relied on that check in the mail, and they’ll be desperate when the money no longer comes to them. Our government is bankrupt - there is no money in its coffers and borrowing from abroad will not help.

Read this article and understand what is happening. Do not despair but be prepared.

“Here It Comes”, by Karl Denninger, Saturday, Jan. 31, 2009
http://market-ticker.org/
(excerpt)
“Government must be prepared to provide the basic necessities of life for at least five to ten million Americans and possibly as many as fifty-million - one in six. As I have noted before this means barracks-style places to sleep, food, clothing and basic medical care. HUNGRY, HOMELESS AND UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS.”

(view Free Republic’s posting on this discussion) here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2175802/posts


79 posted on 02/01/2009 8:58:46 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Star Traveler

That’s what I was thinking as well. Technically.


80 posted on 02/01/2009 8:59:48 PM PST by allmost
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To: trumandogz

This is not FEMA. It is Homeland Security.


81 posted on 02/01/2009 8:59:58 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: MeanGreen2008

These are the “Secret Haliburton Detention Camps” that libs kept fantasizing that Bush was building, brought to life by thier own fascist Democrat leaders..

And they will remain UTTERLY SILENT about it.


82 posted on 02/01/2009 9:02:38 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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To: allmost

You said — “That’s what I was thinking as well. Technically.”

For all intents and purposes, during a major attack that would shut down a major part of the country and paralyze everyone else — FEMA *would be* the government from that point forward...

That’s just the way it’s been designed and made to operate.


83 posted on 02/01/2009 9:03:54 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Hi Star Traveler! See my post at #79. Has a link to an article you may find interesting, if you haven’t read it already.

The author discusses camps in relation to a complete financial collapse of USA.


84 posted on 02/01/2009 9:04:32 PM PST by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!!)
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To: Man50D
I guess this is the excuse the are giving for this -- but remember the little brownshirts he plants to unleash in lieu of the military...and don't think, if he manages to sink us into a depression, people won't volunteer.

*********************************************** http://gto7.wordpress.com/2009/01/30/if-a-dirty-bomb-goes-off-in-a-neighborhood-near-you/

[quote] If a Dirty Bomb Goes off in a Neighborhood Near You . . .

January 30, 2009

Don't you Feel Safe Now?

Go to your local Emergency Center established on a military base. HR 645, known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act sponsored by Rep. Hastings, will create and ” provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due an emergency or major disaster,” to the tune of 180 million the first year.

Take a read for yourself and let me know what you think of this bill! I am not sure I want to place the security and sustenance of my family in the hands of Big Bubby! America has always had natural disasters and Americans, being as resourceful as they are, have always gotten through it. Why would we need the government to set up “camps” to take care of us now? Why not leave these issues in our hands?

At the end of World War I, America suffered through during the third greatest plague in the history of mankind taking over 21 million lives world wide. It was known as the Spanish Flu of 1918, where about 550,000 Americans died in a 16 week period. We got through it without “camps” based on military bases!

Do not forget that it was the military service men and women who suffered the worse during this pandemic because they were locked on a military base in such close and contagious quarters!

World War II, FDR set up “camps” on military bases to provide “temporary housing, and medical,” to Americans of Japanese descent. We’re still screaming about that!

DO NOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. If I were you, I would remember how the Katrina disaster was dealt with by FEMA and then prep your own family! You are ultimately responsible for your own life, and not big bubby! Then call your representatives and demand they vote NO on this potentially disastrous bill that can seriously infringe on your Rights and Freedoms.[/quote]

85 posted on 02/01/2009 9:06:20 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Man50D

INTREP


86 posted on 02/01/2009 9:06:33 PM PST by LiteKeeper (Beware of socialism in America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Star Traveler
That’s just the way it’s been designed and made to operate.
I don't like that.
87 posted on 02/01/2009 9:08:23 PM PST by allmost
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To: SatinDoll

You said — “The author discusses camps in relation to a complete financial collapse of USA.”

Yes, that would be another kind of “disaster” too — wouldn’t it...

I’ll have to take a look at what he thinks would happen. If it’s a total, literal, financial, and non-functioning governmental collapse of the country, “all bets are off” — at that point in time... LOL...

I would rather see a major terrorist attack than that...


88 posted on 02/01/2009 9:09:00 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

Did it fn’ look like I was serious with the “...”. Do you go around calling everyone mentally deranged?


89 posted on 02/01/2009 9:09:10 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: allmost

Yep, but it’s been a *very long time* in the making and it did not come around just in Bush’s time or Clinton’s time...


90 posted on 02/01/2009 9:09:47 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: pepperhead

You said — “Did it fn’ look like I was serious with the “...”. Do you go around calling everyone mentally deranged?”

I said that in terms of “re-education camps” ... and if that doesn’t apply to you, simply ignore it and it’s *not* to you. [ a lot of comments that I make are to be applied “as the shoe fits”... so to speak...]

BUT, I do know that it does apply to some posters and “deranged” applies there...


91 posted on 02/01/2009 9:12:08 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Star Traveler

I don’t get your point, what is the law dear subjugate.


92 posted on 02/01/2009 9:12:54 PM PST by allmost
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To: Star Traveler

Sorry I got a nasty habit of answering post directed to me.


93 posted on 02/01/2009 9:14:15 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Clint Williams

The left has no problem with sex offenders. They will probably be our captors.


94 posted on 02/01/2009 9:15:18 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my kids.)
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To: pepperhead

LOL..., yes, I know I posted it to you... but I was hoping that all people would read it “as the shoe fits”... :-)


95 posted on 02/01/2009 9:16:59 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: Man50D
Rep. Alcee L. Hastings

I propose to create this "detention" place right next door to Rep. Hasting's residence...

96 posted on 02/01/2009 9:17:09 PM PST by John123 (The US may be going down the drain, but everyone else will drown first...)
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To: Gator113

Wouldnt want to be you! Except I am. Uh oh. And a homeschooling pastor’s wife to boot. We are in trouble!


97 posted on 02/01/2009 9:17:23 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (I home school because I have seen the village and I don't want it raising my kids.)
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To: allmost

You asked — “I don’t get your point, what is the law dear subjugate.”

Are you asking what are the FEMA powers in the event of a national emergency?

Ummm..., use the word “dictator” for a one-word explanation... I think they run just about everything in the country at that point in time, if it comes about.

If you are asking about all the laws that have been written granting FEMA all these powers, that’s another matter. I would have to take a “leave of absence” to come up with the documentation on that... LOL...


98 posted on 02/01/2009 9:19:48 PM PST by Star Traveler
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To: buccaneer81
and (4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.

Ambiguous? Nope. That is a blank check issued by an unelected official on our dime, to be used however he/she sees fit.

I do not place much faith in Government, which lately is a ravenous creature, devouring the rights and treasure of the people and our posterity, but this requires a level of trust in that institution I reserve for God himself. Power has a nasty habit of being the instrument by which even the most well-intentioned are corrupted.

99 posted on 02/01/2009 9:21:29 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Know et al

I remember back during the Clinton administration, the then president was supposedly plotting to overthrow the Constitution and make himself lifetime dictator. Y2K was going to be the catalyst that would allow him to impose martial law and hence seize power for himself. I personally knew people that bought into this line of thinking. I wonder if they look back at their erstwhile beliefs and feel embarrassed - as they should - or if they’ve moved on to a new conspiracy theory.


100 posted on 02/01/2009 9:22:03 PM PST by eclecticEel (Wall Street isn't a charity ... so why are we giving them money?)
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