Skip to comments.Bill creates detention camps in U.S. for 'emergencies'
Posted on 02/01/2009 8:02:02 PM PST by Man50D
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FEMA Camps already exist.
lol He does not have that good a rep. If he put up links to back up his assertions, it may help.
Hastings was once kicked out of office, I think. Rush should have a ball with this little tidbit. New Dachau? New Bergen-Belson?
Take your pick here. I’m not going and that’s all I know.
I’ve heard that now and then. Where are they? I would not want to be near one.
“Hastings was once kicked out of office, I think. “
I think he is an impeached judge.
yep he is.
Choips like a joick, don’t he?
No, it's WND. Satire is just as likely to be true, but at least it's funny.
You said — “this is NOT satire.”
But some of the comments posted here might as well be satire and mental derangement... LOL...
"Under Representative Hastings' legislation, National Emergency Centers would be located on military bases with a preference wherever possible for those installations closed during the most recent Base Realignment and Closures (BRAC) Commission recommendations."
That was H.R. 1796 in 2007
.. and again this year. Two sources
I guess it's all how you think these camps can be used. Ostensibly these are to have facilities ready in case of another Katrina. Hmm, I wonder if my freezing hillbilly kin would be allowed in -- even if they did not vote for Obama.
You said — “Reeducation camps...”
That’s simply *tinfoil* conspiracy talk and mental derangement...
For quite a while, now..., its been made absolutely clear by all in government that the next major terrorist attack is not a matter of *if* but *when*. And so, when it does come, it could be a major nuclear or biological attack, with outbreaks of Islamic terrorism mixed in and around the country (in addition to the major attack).
I would *expect* to see a major metropolitan area *wiped out* by either a biological weapon or a nuclear weapon of some sort.
Therefore, the establishment of National Emergency Centers to house an entire metropolitan area of refugees (yes, refugees in our country) will be absolutely necessary.
The wording of the bill...
SEC. 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.
(a) In General- In accordance with the requirements of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall establish not fewer than 6 national emergency centers on military installations.
(b) Purpose of National Emergency Centers- The purpose of a national emergency center shall be to use existing infrastructure
(1) to provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due to an emergency or major disaster;
(2) to provide centralized locations for the purposes of training and ensuring the coordination of Federal, State, and local first responders;
(3) to provide centralized locations to improve the coordination of preparedness, response, and recovery efforts of government, private, and not-for-profit entities and faith-based organizations; and
(4) to meet other appropriate needs, as determined by the Secretary of Homeland Security.
SEC. 3. DESIGNATION OF MILITARY INSTALLATIONS AS NATIONAL EMERGENCY CENTERS.
(a) In General- Not later than 60 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, shall designate not fewer than 6 military installations as sites for the establishment of national emergency centers.
(b) Minimum Requirements- A site designated as a national emergency center shall be
(1) capable of meeting for an extended period of time the housing, health, transportation, education, public works, humanitarian and other transition needs of a large number of individuals affected by an emergency or major disaster;
(2) environmentally safe and shall not pose a health risk to individuals who may use the center;
(3) capable of being scaled up or down to accommodate major disaster preparedness and response drills, operations, and procedures;
(4) capable of housing existing permanent structures necessary to meet training and first responders coordination requirements during nondisaster periods;
(5) capable of hosting the infrastructure necessary to rapidly adjust to temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance needs;
(6) required to consist of a complete operations command center, including 2 state-of-the art command and control centers that will comprise a 24/7 operations watch center as follows:
(A) one of the command and control centers shall be in full ready mode; and
(B) the other shall be used daily for training; and
(7) easily accessible at all times and be able to facilitate handicapped and medical facilities, including during an emergency or major disaster.
I like your take on it much better Star Traveler. Which branch abides by these laws again?
You said — “No, but it’s written by Corsi, so it might as well be. I’ll wait for a more reliable source before I descend into my bunker.”
The building of these disaster centers is real — and — the “derangement” exhibited by some comments here are “real” [derangement] too.
It seems Free Republic has degenerated into a significant group of obsessive/compulsive people specializing in various “derangement syndromes”... centering on all sorts of “conspiracies”... LOL..
I posted the wording of the bill below, just above...
You said — “check out the HR bill it is for real and started by a Florida Democrat.”
And it’s something that is “long overdue” and should have been done in the Bush Administration. It’s just too bad it has taken so long to get this stuff in order...
That's what I was thinking. This can never happen in the U. S. Get a grip people. They can't throw you in prison for posts on freerepublic.... Wait, someone is knocking on my door. Who could that be at this hour?
You said — “How bout looking up the bill. Would be a good place to start.”
I posted some of the wording to the bill up above...
Also German-American and Italians-Americans were interned. Although not in as large numbers.
Interesting side note.
While liberal icons such as FDR, Earl Warren were enthusiastic supporter of denying Japanese-Americans of their civil rights, Arch villain of liberals and boogie man of the Left, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover was on notice that this was unnecessary and did not support interment.
You said — “Prepare to be incarcerated with registered sex offenders. At least until youre led off to the gas chambers.”
That’s baloney. This is something that was *long overdue* and should have been in place a long time ago. The Bush Administration should have completed several of them, but didn’t even start. That’s a failure on their part...
This is for the coming major terrorist attack for one thing, and then secondly, it will also serve as a place where people could have gone to, when the New Orleans disaster happened. But, it wasnt there at that time. Hopefully these centers will be in place and fully ready in short order.
The next major terrorist attack will most likely involve a major metro area being nuked or a biological weapon being dropped on it. The two major terrorist groups in the United States are Hezbollah and Hamas both being funded by Iran...
You asked — “I like your take on it much better Star Traveler. Which branch abides by these laws again?”
If it’s a disaster of the size of a major terrorist attack, wiping out several major metropolitan areas, you could be talking about martial law. Then it would be FEMA operating under whatever those laws would be at the time.
Otherwise, in a disaster like that of New Orleans, again it would be FEMA, but under more limited powers than an overwhelming national disaster like a major terrorist attack.
I hope this will help folks here to understand what is happening and perhaps why Congressman Hastings has proposed this legislation.
Yesterday a blog called Market-ticker.org, written by Karl Denninger, posted the referenced article below (I’ve provided a pertinent excerpt). He predicts that our nation is on the edge of a complete financial collapse. You can bet that our government knows that too.
There are three generations of welfare families living in inner cities which have relied on that check in the mail, and they’ll be desperate when the money no longer comes to them. Our government is bankrupt - there is no money in its coffers and borrowing from abroad will not help.
Read this article and understand what is happening. Do not despair but be prepared.
“Here It Comes”, by Karl Denninger, Saturday, Jan. 31, 2009
“Government must be prepared to provide the basic necessities of life for at least five to ten million Americans and possibly as many as fifty-million - one in six. As I have noted before this means barracks-style places to sleep, food, clothing and basic medical care. HUNGRY, HOMELESS AND UNEMPLOYED PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS.”
(view Free Republic’s posting on this discussion) here:
That’s what I was thinking as well. Technically.
This is not FEMA. It is Homeland Security.
These are the “Secret Haliburton Detention Camps” that libs kept fantasizing that Bush was building, brought to life by thier own fascist Democrat leaders..
And they will remain UTTERLY SILENT about it.
You said — “Thats what I was thinking as well. Technically.”
For all intents and purposes, during a major attack that would shut down a major part of the country and paralyze everyone else — FEMA *would be* the government from that point forward...
That’s just the way it’s been designed and made to operate.
Hi Star Traveler! See my post at #79. Has a link to an article you may find interesting, if you haven’t read it already.
The author discusses camps in relation to a complete financial collapse of USA.
[quote] If a Dirty Bomb Goes off in a Neighborhood Near You . . .
January 30, 2009
Don't you Feel Safe Now?
Go to your local Emergency Center established on a military base. HR 645, known as the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act sponsored by Rep. Hastings, will create and provide temporary housing, medical, and humanitarian assistance to individuals and families dislocated due an emergency or major disaster, to the tune of 180 million the first year.
Take a read for yourself and let me know what you think of this bill! I am not sure I want to place the security and sustenance of my family in the hands of Big Bubby! America has always had natural disasters and Americans, being as resourceful as they are, have always gotten through it. Why would we need the government to set up camps to take care of us now? Why not leave these issues in our hands?
At the end of World War I, America suffered through during the third greatest plague in the history of mankind taking over 21 million lives world wide. It was known as the Spanish Flu of 1918, where about 550,000 Americans died in a 16 week period. We got through it without camps based on military bases!
Do not forget that it was the military service men and women who suffered the worse during this pandemic because they were locked on a military base in such close and contagious quarters!
World War II, FDR set up camps on military bases to provide temporary housing, and medical, to Americans of Japanese descent. Were still screaming about that!
DO NOT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT. If I were you, I would remember how the Katrina disaster was dealt with by FEMA and then prep your own family! You are ultimately responsible for your own life, and not big bubby! Then call your representatives and demand they vote NO on this potentially disastrous bill that can seriously infringe on your Rights and Freedoms.[/quote]
You said — “The author discusses camps in relation to a complete financial collapse of USA.”
Yes, that would be another kind of “disaster” too — wouldn’t it...
I’ll have to take a look at what he thinks would happen. If it’s a total, literal, financial, and non-functioning governmental collapse of the country, “all bets are off” — at that point in time... LOL...
I would rather see a major terrorist attack than that...
Did it fn’ look like I was serious with the “...”. Do you go around calling everyone mentally deranged?
Yep, but it’s been a *very long time* in the making and it did not come around just in Bush’s time or Clinton’s time...
You said — “Did it fn look like I was serious with the .... Do you go around calling everyone mentally deranged?”
I said that in terms of “re-education camps” ... and if that doesn’t apply to you, simply ignore it and it’s *not* to you. [ a lot of comments that I make are to be applied “as the shoe fits”... so to speak...]
BUT, I do know that it does apply to some posters and “deranged” applies there...
I don’t get your point, what is the law dear subjugate.
Sorry I got a nasty habit of answering post directed to me.
The left has no problem with sex offenders. They will probably be our captors.
LOL..., yes, I know I posted it to you... but I was hoping that all people would read it “as the shoe fits”... :-)
I propose to create this "detention" place right next door to Rep. Hasting's residence...
Wouldnt want to be you! Except I am. Uh oh. And a homeschooling pastor’s wife to boot. We are in trouble!
You asked — “I dont get your point, what is the law dear subjugate.”
Are you asking what are the FEMA powers in the event of a national emergency?
Ummm..., use the word “dictator” for a one-word explanation... I think they run just about everything in the country at that point in time, if it comes about.
If you are asking about all the laws that have been written granting FEMA all these powers, that’s another matter. I would have to take a “leave of absence” to come up with the documentation on that... LOL...
Ambiguous? Nope. That is a blank check issued by an unelected official on our dime, to be used however he/she sees fit.
I do not place much faith in Government, which lately is a ravenous creature, devouring the rights and treasure of the people and our posterity, but this requires a level of trust in that institution I reserve for God himself. Power has a nasty habit of being the instrument by which even the most well-intentioned are corrupted.
I remember back during the Clinton administration, the then president was supposedly plotting to overthrow the Constitution and make himself lifetime dictator. Y2K was going to be the catalyst that would allow him to impose martial law and hence seize power for himself. I personally knew people that bought into this line of thinking. I wonder if they look back at their erstwhile beliefs and feel embarrassed - as they should - or if they’ve moved on to a new conspiracy theory.