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Eluana Transferred Late Tuesday Night to Clinic for Death by Dehydration
LifeSiteNews ^ | 2/3/09 | Hilary White

Posted on 02/03/2009 11:07:44 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: JustaDumbBlonde; wagglebee
Since you've pinged your cabal...

This is the Terri's Dailies Thread, it is a caucus thread, and Wagglebee pings those of us who have requested to be on the Terri's Dailies Ping List.

I suggest you direct your complaints about the pro-life nature this thread to Jim Robinson, and not to his guests who are merely following his rules, not dictating them.

151 posted on 02/09/2009 10:04:49 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb; wagglebee
"I suggest you direct your complaints about the pro-life nature this thread to Jim Robinson,..."

I have absolutely no problem whatsoever with the pro-life nature of this thread, nor did I ever indicate that I did, therefore I have no need to complain to Jim Robinson. However, I assure you that if I ever feel the need to take a comment/problem/solution/suggestion to Jim, I certainly will. I was responding to wagglebee's post #146, and that post only. Is it the rules of this forum that y'all be pinged when wagglebee is posting to me about something that I posted? When did this begin?

For the record, it is possible to be pro-life without being a zealot about it. You attract nobody to your side by calling them and assuming that you are more righteous than anyone else.

152 posted on 02/09/2009 10:23:59 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; BykrBayb

correction in the second paragraph: by calling them names


153 posted on 02/09/2009 10:25:25 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

LOL ~ You are the one doing the name calling. Then you post a correction to your name calling, with a comment about name calling. Do you have any idea how ridiculous that is?


154 posted on 02/09/2009 10:29:07 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
The correction was not a comment, but the addition of a word to a comment already posted. I sincerely apologize for trying to complete the sentence.

No more ridiculous than you insisting that you were pinged because it was forum rules. LOL!

155 posted on 02/09/2009 10:46:31 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

If I had said what you have falsely accused me of saying, that would have been ridiculous.

Why can’t anyone support killing innocent people like Eluana and Terri, and be honest about it at the same time?


156 posted on 02/09/2009 10:52:09 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
"Why can’t anyone support killing innocent people like Eluana and Terri, and be honest about it at the same time?"

Don't have a clue Bayb. I don't support killing anyone.

157 posted on 02/09/2009 10:56:58 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Then you’re not very good at advocating for Eluana and other potential victims to live.

No, I don’t believe you support the right to life for people whose lives you deem worthless. I don’t believe you’re being honest at all.


158 posted on 02/09/2009 11:02:31 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
"No, I don’t believe you support the right to life for people whose lives you deem worthless. I don’t believe you’re being honest at all."

I never said that any of these folks are 'worthless' -- that is a total fabrication -- and I don't care what you believe about me. Good night.

159 posted on 02/09/2009 11:13:39 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

I believe you adhere to the position you promote.

I’m not ashamed to admit that I support the right of innocent people to not be deprived of the basic necessities of life. I don’t argue in favor of my views, and then deny having those views when confronted about it.

Why can’t you come right out with it, and state plain and simple, without any of the games, what it is you truly believe? Why must you hide behind dishonest wordplay? You argued against Eluana’s right to food and water, while cleverly avoiding accurately stating your position. If you’re too ashamed to admit that you supported the killing of Eluana, why did you spend so much time and energy supporting that position?

Just admit which side you’re on. If you truly believe you’re on the right side, why can’t you admit which side you’re on? If you truly believe it was right to kill Eluana, why can’t you admit it?


160 posted on 02/09/2009 11:26:58 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

I did not argue against Eluana’s right to food and water. Period.


161 posted on 02/09/2009 11:50:53 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of the Free Because of the Brave)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

So you were against depriving her of food and water?

You can’t give a straight honest answer, can you? You can’t proudly proclaim which side you’re on, can you?


162 posted on 02/09/2009 11:55:15 PM PST by BykrBayb (May God have mercy on our souls. ~ Þ)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


163 posted on 02/10/2009 7:02:39 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Rest in Peace Eluana

Italian Prime Minister Berlusconi has said that he holds the communist president partly to blame for Eluana's death and it looks like the justice ministry might investigate further.

Two threads by me.

Italian Premier Blames President for Eluana Englaro's Death, Vatican Responds

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- In the day following the euthanasia death of Eluana Englaro, the disabled woman in a similar condition as Terri Schiavo, top political leaders are blaming one another for her death. Meanwhile, the Vatican has responded to Englaro's death and the Catholic Church says patients need more protections.

Englaro died on Monday after four days of partial starvation and dehydration after a medical clinic agreed to follow a court order allowing her father to take her life.

On Tuesday, Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said Englaro was "killed" and blamed President Giorgio Napolitano for her death because he refused to sign an emergency order to allow her food and water.

"Eluana did not die a natural death," Berlusconi told the Libero daily newspaper. "She was killed."

"Napolitano made a serious mistake," another paper quoted Berlusconi as saying. He lamented that the Italian parliament was not able to approve another measure in time to save her.

Englaro was "the only citizen to be condemned to death," he said, and added that the decision by the medical clinic to stop feeding her amounted to euthanasia, which is illegal in Italy. . .

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Charges May Not Come in Eluana Englaro Case, Medical Hearing on Thursday

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- Local authorities and officials in the Udine region of Italy are unsure whether the medical staff who removed Eluana Englaro's feeding tube will face any hearings or charges in connection with her euthanasia death. Englaro died on Monday after four days of starvation and dehydration.

Her death was ordered by an Italian appeals court after her father Beppino had spent the better part of a decade fighting to take her life.

Englaro was expected to live two weeks but she succumbed to the starvation after only four days.

Prior to the removal of her feeding tube, national officials indicated they would prosecute the staff of any medical center that would remove it and cause her death.

On Tuesday, in the chaotic fallout from Englaro's death, the Udine prosecutor's office has ordered an autopsy on Englaro's body.

Public prosecutor in nearby Trieste, Beniamino Deidda, told the Italian news agency ANSA, ''For the moment we have no news from the commission of any crime."

Meanwhile, the Udine branch of the Italian Medical Association is planning a hearing on Thursday to establish whether disciplinary proceedings should go ahead for the medical team that removed her feeding tube. . .

"We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest."

164 posted on 02/10/2009 5:24:04 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser
The Russian Orthodox Church is calling euthanasia exactly what it is.

Thread by GonzoII.

Advocates of legalizing euthanasia impose “new totalitarianism” on society,- Moscow Patriarchate

Moscow, February 10, Interfax – The Russian Orthodox Church stands against euthanasia as “a form of suicide.”

“Suggestions to legalize euthanasia drive us away from freedom. It’s strange to hear such appeals to new forms of totalitarianism, imposing of certain attitude to new form of suicide at legislative level from some human rights advocates,” acting Secretary of the Moscow Patriarchate Department for External Church Relations Fr. Georgy Ryabykh told Interfax-Religion on Tuesday.

He believes that advocates of euthanasia “push a person to commit suicide,” while today there works a principle of “voluntary choice” on the question. According to Fr. Georgy, when the Church doesn’t accept euthanasia and considers it “a form of suicide,” thus it “expresses greater respect to human freedom than some human rights advocates, who demand a legislative permission for this action.”

The priest reminds that today legislation doesn’t prohibit euthanasia, people themselves take decision whether to commit suicide or not and consequently “some countries, including prosperous ones, are concerned with the increasing number of suicides.” The Church position, Fr. Georgy believes, “appeals to human conscience.”

“If the right on euthanasia is secured, it will impose certain restrictions on society. For example, doctors will be obliged to do it according to the law, even if they don’t wish. Besides, if we bring this question to the legal sphere, we provoke the tendency to suicides in society,” the interviewee of the agency said. . .

165 posted on 02/10/2009 5:27:31 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Caleb1411; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser
Caleb1411 has posted an editorial by our great friend Judie Brown about the hypocrisy of the Catholics in name only.

‘Pro-Abortion’ Cokie Roberts Merits No Award from Catholic College

A series of events over the past few days have brought to light, once again, how difficult it is for some people who call themselves Catholic to practice the faith they claim as their own.

At the same time, these events have confirmed the strength and courage required of those who not only wish to be identified as Catholic, but are also willing to step out in faith, go against the tide and actually make a difference for the Lord in this otherwise abysmal world of ours.

Today, for example, at a Philadelphia-area Catholic college, Cabrini by name, the annual Ivy Young Willis Award for Contributions to Public Affairs, will be bestowed on pro-abortion commentator Cokie Roberts. . .

166 posted on 02/10/2009 5:30:22 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

May God bless the loved ones.


167 posted on 02/10/2009 8:53:03 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

An indepth investigation and charges will be the only way to make sure the message is clear. If they fail to do either, it will be like placing the stamp of approval on it and there will be more of these to follow.


168 posted on 02/10/2009 9:18:42 PM PST by MountainFlower (There but by the grace of God go I.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Rest in Peace Eluana

The murderers have released portions of the medical log and the autopsy seems to indicate that Eluana died of dehydration.

Two threads by me.

Medical Center's Log Shows Starvation Took Toll on Eluana Englaro Quickly

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- The log from the medical center whose staff began the process of starving and dehydrating Eluana Englaro to death shows it took its toll on the disabled woman quickly. Englaro suffered from the effects of the withdrawal of food and water more rapidly than similar patients and died faster as well.

“Monday afternoon, temperature rises. Mucous membranes dry. Nurses spray lips with water droplets," the log read on Monday. A few hours later, Englaro died.

The Italian daily newspaper Corriere Della Sera says a "distress log" accompanied Englaro's medical records during the final days of her life.

The newspaper indicated the Italian nuns who took care of Englaro prior to her arrival at the medical center where she was deprived of food and water did a good job because she arrived in a very healthy condition. . .

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Eluana Englaro Autopsy Claims No Wrongdoing in Starvation, Euthanasia Death

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- The results of the autopsy conducted on Eluana Englaro following her euthanasia death via starvation and dehydration claim no wrongdoing. The autopsy reveals no signs of foul play even though Englaro died quickly from the withdrawal of food and water as opposed to dying over a two week process as Terri Schiavo did.

Englaro died on Monday following four days of staff at her medical center denying her nutrition she had received from a feeding tube.

The disabled woman had been in a minimally conscious state for 17 years following an automobile accident at the age of 21 and her father had won a court ruling allowing him to kill her.

Some anti-euthanasia advocates were concerned that something had been done to hasten her death faster than would have been normal. Also, Englaro's own neurologist and medical team indicated they expected her to live for two weeks following the initial deprivation of food and water.

But preliminary results from the autopsy found that she died of a cardio-respiratory failure due to dehydration, police sources told Reuters. . .

"We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest."

169 posted on 02/11/2009 4:02:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII; All
The Pope has stated the truth in the simplest and clearest terms.

Thread by GonzoII.

Pope: Life is not a disposable good

Vatican City (AsiaNews) - "Man's life is not a disposable good, but a treasure to be preserved and cared for with as much attentiveness as possible, from the moment of its beginning to its ultimate and natural fulfillment." This is the warning expressed today by Benedict XVI for the World Day of the Sick, in his greetings to those at St. Peter's Basilica who took part this afternoon in the Mass celebrated by Cardinal Javier Lozano Barragán, president of the Pontifical Council for the Pastoral Care of Health Care Workers. . .

170 posted on 02/11/2009 4:06:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser
This story is just too shocking for words.

Thread by me.

Forced Abortion, Rape Victim Comes Forward After Abortionist Given Slap on the Wrist

DETROIT, Mich., February 11, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Outraged by what she considers a meaningless sentence and remarks by an attorney that she says are insulting and untrue, a former patient of Womancare, a Detroit-area abortion facility, has come forward to tell of her abortion experience with owner, abortionist Alberto Hodari.

Jennifer McCoy's hair-raising account of a forced abortion and the non-reporting of child sexual abuse that allowed her rapist to continue abusing her is part of an investigative report about Hodari's legal problems released today by the pro-life group Operation Rescue. (Click here to read: http://www.operationrescue.org/archives/forced-abortion-rape...)

Womancare, Inc. was last week given six months probation on one count of illegally disposing of abortion records. Eleven other counts have been dismissed. Womancare was charged after Citizens for a Pro-Life Society discovered abortion records along with the remains of aborted babies that had been illegally dumped in the clinic's trash, and reported their findings to the authorities. The Health Department chose not to pursue charges for the illegal disposal of human remains, however.

After the sentencing, Hodari's attorney, Victor Norris, told the press that Hodari had "never had any licensing violations or criminal allegations."

Operation Rescue's report tells a very different story. It reveals that Hodari has a record of 49 documented lawsuits, including four abortion-related deaths.

McCoy has told her own story about the abortionist, hoping that Hodari will be exposed and his dangerous abortion practice put to an end.

According to McCoy's testimony, she was 16-years old in 1988 when she discovered that she was pregnant, news that she says she welcomed since she believed that she was in love with her baby's father. She says she had no thought of abortion because she believed it was wrong.

However, the baby's father was her 39-year old high school ROTC teacher, who was married and had a family of his own, including a daughter that was Jennifer's age. Their relationship qualified as statutory rape.

Jennifer's mother found out about the relationship, but instead of reporting her daughter's sexual abuse to the authorities, she called the teacher and threatened to expose him if he did not help her persuade Jennifer to have an abortion. Jennifer was taken by her rapist to one of Hodari's clinics in Southgate under the pretense of receiving prenatal care. "I didn't even know what an abortion clinic was," she said.

Once at the clinic, she was asked to sign some papers. McCoy says she signed all the parts related to medical care, but refused to sign anything that discussed abortion. "That's not why I'm here," she says she repeatedly told the clinic staff.

Jennifer was then given an ultrasound examination. She asked to see her baby, but her request was refused. "It really isn't necessary," she was told.

She was placed in an examination room, and after a long wait, Hodari entered the room. She told him that she was just there for an exam. She had been told by the clinic staff that she had to get an exam in order to determine how far along she was.

Hodari began the exam. "Then all of a sudden I was in excruciating pain," Jennifer recalled. "I tried to sit up, and I heard a machine turn on, like a vacuum, and I realized what was going on."

"I tried to get up from the table. I actually tried to sit up, and he pushed me back down on the table and told me if I moved I could die. It would be over in five minutes and I could go on with my life. I was scared to death at that point that what he said was true, and so all I could do is lay there and cry."

Jennifer then left the clinic and headed straight to the Southgate Police Department, just up the street from the abortion mill, to file charges against Hodari for aborting her baby against her will. . .

171 posted on 02/11/2009 4:08:54 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Sadly, this is hardly rare!

Evidence of a Planned Parenthood sting exposing their
failure to report sexual abuse of an underage girl by an
adult male was taken to Colorado’s Republican AG, John
Suthers’ office several years ago.

We were told nothing could be done.


172 posted on 02/11/2009 4:36:12 PM PST by Lesforlife
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To: Lesforlife

Big Murder pays off a lot of people to look the other way.


173 posted on 02/11/2009 4:41:14 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I am so sad. We are coming up on the anniversary of Terri’s dehydration/starvation. The world has gone mad.


174 posted on 02/11/2009 7:36:43 PM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


175 posted on 02/11/2009 8:22:27 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Saundra Duffy
I am so sad. We are coming up on the anniversary of Terri’s dehydration/starvation. The world has gone mad.

And I fear that it's going to get A LOT worse.

176 posted on 02/12/2009 4:08:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Rest in Peace Eluana

Thread by me on Eluana's funeral and statements by the Vatican and a pro-life doctors group.

Eluana Englaro Buried in Catholic Funeral Today, Doctors Group Condemns Death

Rome, Italy (LifeNews.com) -- Eluana Englaro, the disabled woman who was killed via a starvation and dehydration euthanasia death on Monday, will receive a Catholic burial today. Meanwhile, a Catholic doctors' group is condemning her death saying that her father was wrong to seek a court ruling to kill her.

Englaro will be buried today in a Christian ceremony despite the wishes of her father. Beppino Englaro had originally wanted Eluana cremated but he gave in to the wishes of other family members.

Beppino was not a believer and his daughter's suffering reinforced his lack of faith, but the London Times indicates other members of Elunana's family, including her uncle Armando, wanted a religious ceremony.

~snip~

Elunana's death continues to be condemned by Catholic leaders.

Father Federico Lombardi, the Vatican spokesman, said that the "sadness of the circumstances surrounding the death of Eluana Englaro must spur us on to search for effective ways to serve life."

“Eluana did not die on her own; rather she was killed by those who deprived her of food and water. Hers was certainly not a natural death," he added.

Simon Castellvi, the president of the International Federation of Associations of Catholic Doctors, also condemned the death in a statement.

“Neither as doctors, nor as Christians nor as persons can we accept what was done to Eluana. A human being can never be left without food. Eluana was alive and they killed her," he said.

“Eluana could breath, eat, swallow and smile. And now she is longer in the land of the living,” Castellvi added. “We perfectly understand the suffering of the father. Eluana was like a little child who needs to be cared for. But Eluana was alive. To deny her nourishment and sedate her to the end, when she had no pain, is simply and candidly murder."

"Nothing or nobody can justify withdrawing her nourishment and administering a sedative to her, clearly in order to mercilessly accelerate the end of her days,” the doctors group continued.

“We condemn in the strongest terms the physical elimination of Eluana and we trust the leaders of countries will see the right to life as the basis for living together in peace," the physician concluded.

"We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest."

177 posted on 02/12/2009 4:15:35 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: SErtelt; All
Steven Ertelt has posted a thread/story on Zero's pro-death choice for Solicitor General.

Pro-Life Groups Oppose Pro-Abortion Obama Pick for Solicitor General

Washington, DC -- Pro-life groups are up in arms about yet another pro-abortion nominee President Barack Obama has put forward for a leadership position in the Justice Department. Obama wants abortion advocate Elena Kagan to serve as Solicitor General, the attorney who represents the government before the Supreme Court. . .

178 posted on 02/12/2009 4:18:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser
The ability of some people to lie to themselves is staggering.

Thread by me.

Priest/Catholic U President: "Abortion is Not an Infallible Teaching"

WINDSOR, Ontario, February 12, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The President of the Catholic Assumption University of Windsor told LifeSiteNews.com (LSN) in an interview today that the Catholic Church's position on abortion "is not an infallible teaching."

Fr. Paul Rennick, who is also Vice Chancellor of the school, gave the remarks when LSN sought comment regarding the school's decision to invite Cokie Roberts, a pro-abortion Catholic news analyst who has criticized the Church for preaching against homosexuality and contraception, to address the school as part of the "Christian Culture" lecture series. 

Fr. Rennick told LSN that he had "personally vetted" the selection of Roberts and chose her because she was "a woman of faith," a "well known Catholic" and "successful as an individual Christian."

LSN asked Fr. Rennick, "Do you think there is a possibility of scandal from the fact that she has professed very pro-abortion views and has criticized Catholic bishops for teaching Church doctrine on homosexuality and contraception?"  The President of the Catholic University replied, "No, I don't."

Asked to elaborate, Fr. Rennick said: "If you look at the catholic population, you'll find a whole variety of positions on all of those topics.  It seems to me that disagreement on a particular position doesn't disqualify one from being a Catholic.  Unless, of course, that position is whether Jesus is the Christ."

"Abortion is not an infallible teaching.  It never has been proclaimed infallibly," he said.  "This attempt to put everything that the Church teaches in this one set of categories, it seems to me, is not a proper Catholic position, not according to the history of our church," he added. . .

179 posted on 02/12/2009 4:21:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


180 posted on 02/12/2009 9:44:40 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Coleus; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ..
If EVER there was an opportunity for the Catholic Church to make it crystal clear that being pro-abortion is unacceptable this is it!

Thread by Coleus.

Pro-Abortion Nancy Pelosi to Meet Pope - HLI Says "Excommunicate the Speaker"

Reports have surfaced that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a self-avowed "Catholic" adamant abortion supporter, intends to head a delegation to Euope that will meet with Pope Benedict XVI. Today the Drudge Report headlined a report by Rep. John Culberson (R-TX) on Houston's KSEV radio that Pelosi hopes to pass the federal economic stimulus bill in time for her join the group, which reportedly leaves Friday evening.

According to Il Tempo, Pelosi will arrive in Rome Sunday afternoon, her first visit to the city since becoming Speaker of the House. It has not been determined when Ms. Pelosi plans to meet the Pope. Speaker Pelosi has drawn severe criticism from Catholic leaders for her misrepresentation of Catholic doctrine in light of her extreme pro-abortion position. . .

181 posted on 02/14/2009 4:09:36 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
The RINOs are seeking to totally destroy the GOP and conservatism.

Thread by me.

Pro-Abortion Republican Groups Announce New Partnership to Weaken GOP

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- Two pro-abortion Republican groups have announced a newly-formed partnership designed to weaken the long-standing pro-life platform the GOP maintains. The Republican Majority for Choice and the WISH List (Women in the Senate and House) hope to team up to drag the party to the left.

Colleen Parro, the head of the Republican National Coalition for Life tells LifeNews.com about the new effort.

"Feeling scorned after eighteen years of trying and failing to remove the pro-life language from the Republican national platform, and with the last three Republican presidential administrations [taking a pro-life stance], pro-choice Republican women are trying to make a come-back," Parro said. . .

182 posted on 02/14/2009 4:14:53 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: NYer; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
The problem is that Zero is actually happy that an American baby/burden is murdered every 25 seconds.

Thread by NYer.

Obama Receives Red Envelopes

ebruary 12, 2009 5:25:35 PM by NYer

Red Envelope Project

A grassroots initiative to express moral outrage over President Obama’s administration’s promotion of abortion is garnering much Internet attention.

Just as American revolutionaries used tea to protest the action’s of the British government, those concerned with life are utilizing the power of red envelopes to protest abortion.

Supporters have been encouraged to send an empty red envelope to President Obama, symbolizing a single child who died because of abortion.

On the back of each envelope, is a handwritten message that reads: “This envelope represents one child who died in abortion. It is empty because that life was unable to offer anything to the world. Responsibility begins with conception.”

183 posted on 02/14/2009 4:18:49 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: tcg; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
Forty-six years ago, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. was jailed in Birmingham for peacefully protesting civil rights atrocities and it seems that Birmingham hasn't changed one bit.

Thread by tcg.

Pro-Life Workers Arrested in Birmingham, It’s a Sad Day for Human and Civil Rights 2/13/2009

Blythe told Catholic Online that one officer approached her, saying the group was trespassing. She responded by explaining that they were on a public sidewalk and simply exercising their constitutional rights. The officer responded, “You just can’t be here.”

Not long after that she was stopped from her videotaping and placed in the back of a squad car. Another young woman was also placed next to her whose handcuffs were so tight she was crying out in pain. Police were unresponsive to pleas from Blythe to loosen the woman’s handcuffs.

One member of the group, Rev. Henry “Bud” Shaver, a 30 year-old youth minister, was not only handcuffed but had his feet shackled at the jail. Earlier, when he was arrested near the high school campus he was told by police that the sidewalk was not public property for “non-citizens of Birmingham.”

The intervention by the Birmingham Police Department began when a campus officer called them after the Survivors declined to leave the area. The group explained as they knew they had a right to stand on the sidewalk, which allegedly made no impression on the officer. . .

185 posted on 02/14/2009 4:29:23 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
The murder with indignity crowd has issued a seven point plan to kill the "useless eaters."

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Wesley J. Smith: Compassion and Choices "Seven Principles" to Death on Demand

Compassion and Choices (formerly Hemlock Society) is the abundantly funded, prime mover and shaker for the assisted suicide movement in the USA. It unquestionably had a good year in 2008 with the passage of I-1000 in Washington and the imposition of a fundamental state constitutional right to "die with dignity" in Montana. It has now issued its "Seven Principles" to "improve end-of-life care and expand patient choices." A clear and literal reading of these "principles," demonstrate that the goal is an essential death on demand. . .

186 posted on 02/14/2009 4:31:53 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
The death ghouls think they can use Eluana's death to convince even more Italians that death is an obligation.

Thread by me.

Italian Left Launches "Living Wills" Euthanasia Campaign in the Wake of Eluana Englaro Crisis

ROME, February 13, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Italian legislators are said to be quietly dropping a proposed measure that would have prohibited the withdrawal of food and hydration from comatose patients after the death of Eluana Englaro.

While Eluana herself was being buried in a Catholic ceremony in her native village of Lecco, the Italian government turned its attention to pending legislation on "living wills" that many fear will usher in a legal situation that will make cases such as hers more common. Direct euthanasia remains illegal in Italy, but the removal of food and hydration remains a contested issue, and no direct action was taken in the case of Eluana to stop her killing.

Although under Italian law a patient, or a patient's guardian, can refuse treatment, it remains to be seen if food and hydration will be regarded as medical treatment under the new law, which is heavily favored by the left.

Italian novelist Umberto Eco, in an article published in the left-leaning La Repubblica daily supporting the euthanasia push, wrote, "Now that this young woman is dead, we can talk about these problems without fear of behaving like a stalking jackal around a suffering body."

. . .

"We will not be silent.
We are your bad conscience.
The White Rose will give you no rest."

187 posted on 02/14/2009 4:35:20 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
Not surprisingly, the culture of death sounded no different 70 years ago than they do today.

MERCY DEATH LAW READY FOR ALBANY (2/14/39)


188 posted on 02/14/2009 4:56:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

Thanks for the ping!


189 posted on 02/14/2009 10:23:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: wagglebee

BUMP


190 posted on 02/15/2009 6:29:20 AM PST by Dante3
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To: wagglebee
RIP

At least the other relatives overruled the father about the funeral ceremony.

191 posted on 02/15/2009 6:32:57 AM PST by Dante3
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To: redk; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ...
A wonderful editorial by the father of a baby with Down Syndrome.

Thread by redk.

Down syndrome a modern-day death sentence

Claire will never read these words. But at least she is alive and brings joy to her many friends and family members. You see, Claire is a survivor. She survived one of the most ruthlessly effective extermination programs in modern times.

Claire has Down syndrome.

Most of her Down syndrome brothers and sisters never got to be born. In the United States, more than 90 percent of babies diagnosed with Down syndrome are aborted. (In some other countries this number reaches 95 percent.) But apparently this isn't enough for those who would eradicate these defective persons. The problem is that the current methods for diagnosing the Down defect are ultrasound, biochemical exams or amniocentesis. But amniocentesis is expensive, invasive and potentially harmful to mothers and ultrasound may not be accurate. . .

192 posted on 02/16/2009 3:41:38 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: narses; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; angelwings49; ..
The ability of the culture of death to lie to itself is staggering.

Thread by narses.

PLANNED PARENTHOOD: Good deeds documented

When I became a board member at Planned Parenthood of the Inland Northwest a few months ago, I was trained in my calling; but nothing could have prepared me for the letter to the editor by Hans Neumann of Spirit Lake that appeared on Tuesday, Jan. 27.

Mr. Neumann, whom I have not met, began with a rant, "Elections have consequences. We lost; they won, so they can do what they want for now."

As a clergyman for most of my adult life, I do not accept "them and us" divisions among and between people with differing views. Planned Parenthood supports keeping abortion legal because it protects women's health and lives. However, we never try to convince someone who opposes abortion they are wrong. Instead, we trust people and seek the middle ground. We understand that the only way to reduce the need for abortion is to ensure people have the family planning information and services they need to apply their own moral compasses and make their own decisions. . .

193 posted on 02/16/2009 3:45:24 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
I fear with Zero we will see more and more of this.

Thread by me.

Pro-life pastor prepares for sentencing

An Oakland, California, pastor could face jail time for expressing his pro-life views.

Pastor Walter Hoye ran into trouble with an abortion clinic while doing an informational picket. Dennis Howard, leader of The Movement for a Better America, believes Hoye is innocent.

"His approach was simply to carry a sign that said 'Jesus Loves You. Can We Help?' and offering those who wanted it some information about alternatives to abortion," Howard explains.

194 posted on 02/16/2009 3:48:55 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
This girl is amazing!

Thread by GonzoII.

12-Year-Old Stuns Pro-Choice Teacher and School with Pro-Life Presentation (On YouTube)

TORONTO, February 11, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - 12-year-old "Lia" of Toronto has become a star at her school and on Youtube with her five-minute pro-life speech, crafted for a school competition.  Despite discouragement and outright opposition, Lia's presentation was so well done that she reportedly won the contest she was told she would be disqualified from, due to the "controversial" message of her speech.

Lia's mother broke the story of her daughter's win in an e-mail to the Moral Outcry blog. LifeSiteNews.com attempts to contact Lia and her parents for comment were unreturned by press time. The speech, however, is available in its entirety on Youtube, where it has been viewed over 100,000 times and sparked a heated discussion. (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOR1wUqvJS4&feature=channel_page)

"What if I told you that right now, someone was choosing if you were gonna live or die?" begins the charismatic seventh-grader in a practice recording of the speech posted on Youtube.  "What if I told you that this choice wasn't based on what you could or couldn't do, what you'd done in the past, or what you would do in the future? And what if I told you, you could do nothing about it? 

"Fellow students and teachers, thousands of children are right now in that very situation.  Someone is choosing without even knowing them whether they are going to live or die.  That someone is their mother.  And that choice is abortion."

Lia, speaking easily and with sunny enthusiasm, fires off answers to several common objections in the brief speech. 

"Why do we think that just because a fetus can't talk or do what we do, it isn't a human being yet?"  She asks.  "Some babies are born after only five months.  Is this baby not human? 

"We would never say that. Yet abortions are performed on 5-month-old fetuses all the time.  Or do we only call them humans if they're wanted?

"Think about the child's rights, that were never given to it. No matter what rights the mother has, it doesn't mean we can deny the rights of the fetus," she said. "We must remember that with our rights and our choices come responsibilities, and we can't take someone else's rights away to avoid our responsibilities."

. . .

195 posted on 02/16/2009 3:51:29 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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Thanks for the ping!


196 posted on 02/16/2009 8:24:34 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: TaxachusettsMan; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
I would be shocked if the Pope were to say anything publicly, but I hope he reads Pelosi the riot act when they are in private.

Thread by TaxachusettsMan.

Pope-Pelosi Wednesday Meeting On

In news from another part of the Roman-American fray, it's been confirmed that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will meet Pope Benedict following Wednesday's General Audience as part of her Italian tour: On Monday at noon in Rome, the Vatican’s Press Office confirmed to [Catholic News Agency] that Pope Benedict will be receiving U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi in an audience at noon on Wednesday.

Pelosi, a self-proclaimed "ardent Catholic" who has sparked significant criticism from fellow Catholics in the U.S. for her pro-abortion views, arrived in Italy on Sunday for an eight-day official visit.... Although numerous reports have been published either confirming or denying that Pope Benedict would receive Pelosi in an audience, the Holy See’s Press Office confirmed to CNA on Monday at noon Rome time, that the Holy Father will receive the U.S. representative on Wednesday at midday.

197 posted on 02/17/2009 3:57:11 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII; Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; AlwaysFree; amdgmary; ...
It's a sad world we live in when something so obvious needs to be stated.

Thread by GonzoII.

Vatican: Food and water 'not medical treatment' says senior official

Rome, 17 Feb. (AKI) - A senior Vatican official on Monday weighed into the euthanasia debate currently raging in Italy following the death of a comatose Italian woman last week whose feeding tubes were removed. President of the Pontifical Academy for Life, Rino Fisichella, said that feeding patients is not a medical treatment but an inalienable human requirement.

"Food and water are not medical treatment,"Fisichella stated."

"Thousands of doctors and scientists share our belief that food and water are not medical treatment but an essential requirements for life which can never be eliminated," Fisichella stated.

While euthanasia is illegal in Italy, refusing medical treatment is not.

198 posted on 02/17/2009 3:59:50 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: GonzoII; BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
The BILLION PLUS dead babies worldwide in the past century should be proof enough.

Thread by GonzoII.

Spanish Medical Expert: Damage to Women Caused by Abortion is Scientifically Proven

GUATEMALA, February 16, 2009 (LifeSIteNews.com) - An eminent Spanish biologist and bioethicist recently gave an interview in Guatemala stating that science has proven the damaging effects of abortion on the victim's mother.

Dr. Natalia Lopez Moratalla has a master's degree in bioethics and a doctorate in biology, and is the former director of the Interfaculty Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at the University of Navarra Medical School in Spain. She currently acts as an advisor to Spain's parliamentary subcommittee studying the reform of the nation's abortion law.

199 posted on 02/17/2009 4:02:34 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: BykrBayb; floriduh voter; Lesforlife; 8mmMauser; All
This is just sickening.

Thread by me.

Mother of Baby in Florida Botched Abortion Case Speaks Out About Experience

Miami, FL (LifeNews.com) -- The mother of a baby who was killed in a tragic and bizarre botched abortion case is now speaking out about her experience and the lawsuit she filed against the abortion practitioner. Sycloria Williams gave an exclusive interview to the Florida Catholic after a medical board revoked the abortion practitioner's license. . .

200 posted on 02/17/2009 4:04:27 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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