(British) Poll reveals public doubts over Charles Darwin's theory of evolution

Telegraph ^ | January 31, 2009 | Jonathan Wynne-Jones

[GodGunsGuts]

Poll reveals public doubts over Charles Darwin's theory of evolution

Belief in creationism is widespread in Britain, according to a new survey.

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More than half of the public believe that the theory of evolution cannot explain the full complexity of life on Earth, and a "designer" must have lent a hand, the findings suggest.

And one in three believe that God created the world within the past 10,000 years.

The survey, by respected polling firm ComRes, will fuel the debate around evolution and creationism ahead of next week's 200th anniversary of the birth of Charles Darwin...

[Zack Nguyen]

Almost a century of liberal indoctrination on Darwinian evolution, and the left has failed miserably. People still want to believe there is more to the story than blind chance.

[GodGunsGuts]

LOL!

[GodGunsGuts]

Did you click the link and read Richard Dawkins reaction? LOL

[stormer]

I guess the limeys are dumber than I thought.

[valkyry1]

I was an early doubter of Darwins evolutionary beliefs (high school), and it was Darwin’s actual words in his writings that got me going to there.

All the latest and greatest ‘missing link hominids’ they trotted out only to withdraw them only sealed the deal for me.

[Tublecane]

“Poll reveals public doubts over Charles Darwin’s theory of evolution”

Bush’s fault.

[GodGunsGuts]

==I guess the limeys are dumber than I thought.

Either that, or they are much, much smarter than you thought.

BTW, did you manage to catch what the scientific evidence has (finally!) forced the Evos to give Darwin for his birthday? LOL

http://creationsafaris.com/crev200901.htm#20090122a

http://www.icr.org/

[metmom]

Another poll to add to the list.

There’ll be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over this one.

[Glenn]

More than half of the public believe

Throw a rock. Hit an opinionated moron.

[editor-surveyor]

"I guess the limeys are dumber than I thought"

They're smart enough to see the complete statistical impossibility of evolution, and accidental life from nothing. - On the other hand, some were stupid enough to buy into evolution, so maybe you're right.

[metmom]

Good article.

[GodGunsGuts]

Truly, all creation sings of God’s majesty. Unfortunately, a great many of our fellow human beings are tone-deaf.

[GodGunsGuts]

==Throw a rock. Hit an opinionated moron.

I did notice that they quoted Richard Dawkins.

[GodGunsGuts]

==There’ll be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth over this one.

Richard Dawkins is already leading the choir. All those bus signs for nothing. LOL

[stormer]

Are you surprised that a scientific theory undergoes change in 150 years? I'm not. If you want to believe that the invisible man in the sky wished existence into being, that's fine with me. Just don't call it science.

[valkyry1]

Paul Woolley, the director of Theos said: "Darwin is being used by certain atheists today to promote their cause.

"The result is that, given the false choice of evolution or God, people are rejecting evolution."

[stormer]

The Theory of Evolution does not address biogenesis (but I suspect you have been told the) and perhaps you can provide your statistical proof (remember to show your work).

[Jaime2099]

Paul Woolley, the director of Theos said: "Darwin is being used by certain atheists today to promote their cause.

This is exactly why evolutionists are so crazy about evolution. All they want is something that can be used as an alternative to God. They could care less whether they have proven it, or even if it is a sound theory. They just want God out of science at whatever cost.

Prof Dawkins expressed dismay at the findings of the ComRes survey, of 2,060 adults, which he claimed were confirmation that much of the population is "pig-ignorant" about science.

This guy is a joke. If I had a kid at his school I'd be tempted to yank him out of there. The guy is obviously an atheist that hates the very idea of God. I wouldn't give a nickel to hear his bloated, bias, unscientific opinion about evolution.

[Cedric]

Had some nut job mathematician (150 years ago) claimed that he discovered a new number and the proof would be forthcoming directly, then produced no such evidence, d’ya suppose the “scientific community” might be getting a little impatient by now?

[stormer]

I'm certain of it. But I'm not quite sure how this applies to the case at hand. Evolutionary theory has been tested time and again, there is a mountain of evidence that supports it, and it is thoroughly embraced by the scientific community. The fact that there are people who do not have the capacity to understand this is of little consequence.

[Cedric]

And if you wanna hang on to some 150 year old myth, based on nothin' but blind faith, that's fine with me.

Just don't try to tell me it's not a religion.

[Darwin Fish]

I guess if your faith is so dependent upon “proving” that modern science is wrong, your faith is not faith at all.

Religion is what it is, I guess. If it cannot stand in the face of scientific enquirery, well, I am not sure what it is.

Many here know that global warming BS is a religeon. Yet the same type of people, in my opinion, that trumpet young earth theories, are the same type of people that belive in global warming.

Control freaks, all of them.

[GodGunsGuts]

==Are you surprised that a scientific theory undergoes change in 150 years? I’m not.

Change? I don’t think you fully appreciate the magnitude of the revisions that Darwin’s fanciful creation myth requires. Indeed, by the time that they are finished, they won’t even be able to call it Darwinian evolution any more. And once they are finished hacking away at Darwin’s tree of life, and this giant man-made edifice comes crashing down, God’s creation account will be standing tall, unshaken, unchanged, and even more menacing to materialists than ever. That is why the Evos will waste no time in building a new materialist edifice (in much the same way Adam and Eve felt compelled to cover their nakedness)...all in a vein effort to hide from God.

[cookcounty]

What? After all that indoctrination, they still think life is more than an accident???

[GodGunsGuts]

Very well said.

[Jaime2099]

Human Evolution has never been tested and proven. Human Evolution is a phony religion made up by atheists in order to hijack science and teach children and young adults the anti-religion of atheism. Human evolution is what attempts to prove God does not exist, other forms of evolution in no way prove that God does not exist.

The way this study is worded, it appears they are speaking of human evolution since it is the major attack on God and creationism. Plant evolution, horse evolution, and other evolutions do not disprove God's existence or creationism.

[cookcounty]

"The Theory of Evolution does not address biogenesis"

Then how come millions and millions of high schoolers have very expensive Biology textbooks with "How Life Began" in the Unit entitled "Evolution?"

Is that random luck?

[metmom]

So why is it so important that everyone believes like you do, even to the point of having to legislate it or have it forced on school kids against the wishes of them and their parents?

If someone is going into a scientific field that demands an understanding of the theory and how it works, they can learn what they need to. But why the demand that the general public, which will likely never use the ToE in their day to day lives, believe it?

Why call them dumb and ignorant just because they disagree with you? What if they’re right? Where does that leave you on the intelligence scale?

[Marie2]

Just don’t try to convince me that billions of mutations have occurred, and all of them beneficial, and all of them adding rather than subtracting genetic information, and call that science.

[metmom]

Many here know that global warming BS is a religeon. Yet the same type of people, in my opinion, that trumpet young earth theories, are the same type of people that belive in global warming. Control freaks, all of them.

That's the pot calling the kettle black.

Speaking of control freaks, there's the group that is demanding control of public school curriculum of teaching only evolution against the wishes of the parents and students and suing to have their way. That smacks of control freaks.

[GodGunsGuts]

==What? After all that indoctrination, they still think life is more than an accident???

Quite literally, and they haven’t even been able to make a dent in the general public. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for our cultural elite.

[wagglebee]

Religion is what it is, I guess. If it cannot stand in the face of scientific enquirery, well, I am not sure what it is.

Why do I get the impression that Darwin Fish isn't the first name you've had around here?

[metmom]

The Theory of Evolution does not address biogenesis (but I suspect you have been told the) and perhaps you can provide your statistical proof (remember to show your work).

What did the first cell evolve from?

If we're going to keep going back to find out what everything evolved from, it has to start some where.

It would be intellectually dishonest to ignore where everything came from except the FIRST thing.

Wouldn't you think that that's the most important question?

[metmom]

A newb arguing like an experienced FReeper always leads to that conclusion.

[wagglebee]

Especially when they push an anti-Christian agenda.

[metmom]

Do you not see the irony and idiocy of your tagline?

God invented evolution but man invented God?

Then it goes to follow that man invented evolution.

[wagglebee]

Then it goes to follow that man invented evolution.

That part would be true.

[GodGunsGuts]

Yep, he or she is awfully uppity for a noob. I guess they just can’t stay away from the peanut gallery :o)

[mike-zed]

Amen.

[wagglebee]

It became very obvious on the Bug Zapper Thread two years ago that non-conservatives have a really hard time faking it.

[metmom]

I remember that one.

A FR classic :)

[mike-zed]

“And if you wanna hang on to some 150 year old myth, based on nothin’ but blind faith, that’s fine with me.

Just don’t try to tell me it’s not a religion.”

Blind faith?

I guess your god is out there intelligently designing that drug-resistant TB. No evolution, just benevolent divine will I guess.

[Jaime2099]

That’s so funny it just hurts.

[Mogwai]

Maybe there are some new things under the sun. I have long had an interest in this debate, and yet I’d never before seen someone accept evolution generally, but reject evolution of humans. That is a pretty unique hypothesis!

[Jaime2099]

I’d never before seen someone accept evolution generally, but reject evolution of humans. That is a pretty unique hypothesis!

Thank you. I do not 100% accept evolution generally, but they do raise some interesting topics. Human Evolution is not one of them. Human Evolution is a false religion that is completely made up to counter christian beliefs. Atheists try to lump Human Evolution with other types of evolutions because the other types are the only evolutions that even remotely have a shot at being accurate. Human Evolution is not the same as plant evolution (and other types), don't let the atheists trick you.

[metmom]

Scripture states that God created kinds of animals. Even groups like Answers in Genesis don’t deny variation within species. That happens and is observable.

What they propose is that the kinds were created with a 100% usable DNA; no junk DNA. They became differentiated as they became isolated from each other and certain charter traits were lost in the different groups, resulting in the inability to *go back* so to speak.

That variation was misinterpreted as evolution instead of being recognized as *devolution*.

[mike-zed]

I do not 100% accept gravity generally, but they do raise some interesting topics. Human gravity is not one of them. Human gravity is a false religion that is completely made up to counter christian beliefs. Atheists try to lump Human gravity with other types of gravities because the other types are the only gravities that even remotely have a shot at being accurate. Human gravity is not the same as plant gravity (and other types), don’t let the atheists trick you.

Darn that Newton and his atheist cohorts.

[Does so]

I'd wager that most here have never taken a college course named "Comparative Vertebrate Anatomy". (As I have).

Most MDs will have taken it. When you see your doctor, you're putting your life in the hands of one who can see—and explain—Darwin in every aspect of your biological construct.

Ask.

[Jaime2099]

Human gravity is not the same as plant gravity (and other types), don’t let the atheists trick you.

Gravity and human gravity, are you serious? That has nothing to do with what I said whatsoever.

If that is your rebuttal to what I said, then you just accomplished zero. Newton actually used science, unlike Human Evolutionists who are mostly atheists that try to hide their phony religious beliefs inside science. It reminds me of the toxic house loans that are floating around, just slip them in between the good ones and hope they don't catch us on it.