Posted on 02/03/2009 5:36:29 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
My husband and I saw “Expelled”. It was very worthwhile and a different and memorable movie. Just to see the egghead professors that believed in Darwinism, search for an answer to Ben’s questions, only to come up with no good answer at all, was worth the price of admission.
“Can you substantiate that charge? Or are you just blowing smoke out your a$$?”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2177834/posts?page=13#13
I’m going to assume that you can read...
Different, yes, but two sides of the same coin. “ID” is a pseudoscientific theory that tries to somehow debunk evolution with an alternative theory without any basis in the scientific method. Creationism(sts) just ignores science. I respect them in their honesty.
Thanks for the ping!
Yes, authoritarianism and propaganda are obviously correct, give the man a rubber degree!
What are you doing at FR?
I didn’t get an honorary doctorate from the University of Vermont either, and nobody has written a word about it to my knowledge. What I’d like to have is one from DeVry. I’ll bet you don’t see many of those.
Exposing those who lie to further their cause.
A good example was Guillermo Gonzalez, who was supposedly denied tenure at ISU because of his beliefs. They tell you a tenure rate of 91% at ISU, not the 66% in his department that is actually relevant. They tell you he was an outstanding academic, but that was prior to his time at ISU. In his time there, which is what counts, his work declined rapidly, the work he did was mainly rehashes of old data. He wasn't even first author of any papers for three years straight. What was he doing? Writing the non peer-reviewed The Privileged Planet instead of doing the kind of work that would get him tenure. Plus, none of his graduate students got their doctoral degrees, and he secured grant money at a rate far below average (and was repeatedly warned about it).
The picture is clearly of someone who was promising during his postdoc studies, but then ceased the kind of work that could fulfill that promise in tenure.
But the movie makes it look like there was a persecution for his beliefs. No, this is the ID version of playing the race card when you fail due to your own lack of merit.
What does that have to do with this thread?
Ben Stein was the star of the movie that made that lie and others like it. Now life imitating art, people are claiming Stein is being persecuted for the same reason.
William ‘Bitter’ Dembksi really hasn’t got over the well merited and thorough kicking that ID and Creationism masquerading as science got at Dover. Good.
My apologies.
I am stunned that Ben Stein would give money to that clown, but Ben has made a career of being weird.
I think Ben Stein would wear this as a badge of honor.
I know I would. ;o)
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