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Vatican Demands Holocaust Denier Publicly Recant
New York Times ^ | February 4, 2009 | RACHEL DONADIO

Posted on 02/04/2009 4:16:31 PM PST by DeepThought42

Responding to global outrage, especially in Pope Benedict XVI’s native Germany, the Vatican for the first time on Wednesday called on a recently rehabilitated bishop to take back his statements denying the Holocaust.

Late last month, the pope revoked the excommunication of four schismatic bishops, including British-born Richard Williamson, who in an interview broadcast last month denied the existence of the Nazi gas chambers.

A statement issued on Wednesday by the Vatican Secretariat of State said that Bishop Williamson “must absolutely, unequivocally and publicly distance himself from his positions on the Shoah,” or Holocaust, which it said were “unknown to the Holy Father at the time he revoked the excommunication.”

The unsigned statement seemed a clear indication that the Vatican was facing an internal and external political crisis.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: holocaust; holocaustdenier; sspx; vatican; williamson
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To: sobieski

Honesty should be a requirement of its representatives.


21 posted on 02/04/2009 5:16:36 PM PST by utahson
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To: utahson

Yes; you should be honest. Bp Williamson is not a church representative. He is a suspended bishop who will have to declaim much to have his suspension lifted.

You know this as a Catholic, right?


22 posted on 02/04/2009 5:19:01 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski
Yes I am a Catholic. I attended Catholic service every Sunday growing up on Air Force installations and was an Alter boy. Were you?
23 posted on 02/04/2009 5:20:28 PM PST by utahson
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To: utahson

Why “its” representatives?

Why not “our” representatives?

As I say, careful with that dishonesty stick...


24 posted on 02/04/2009 5:20:30 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: utahson

Most altar boys know how to spell their job.

Why do you use the past tense in referring to your church attendance?

Care to take another bite at the dishonesty apple?


25 posted on 02/04/2009 5:21:32 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: utahson

Then your formation is lacking or you were not paying attention since this is simple and a long standing situation with the Orthodox.

Which was it?


26 posted on 02/04/2009 5:21:48 PM PST by sobieski
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To: utahson

As for your ‘catholic’ upbringing, it is not a Sunday ‘service’ Rather, it is Mass, Holy Eucharist, Sunday liturgy even.

Service, I believe, is a word used by protestants, though.


27 posted on 02/04/2009 5:25:05 PM PST by sobieski
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To: utahson
As a Catholic, I am thoroughly pleased with and proud of the way Pope Benedict and Bernard Fellay have handled this matter.

I would be disgusted with the utterly mendacious and distorted manner that MSM have handled it ... except that I expect the worst sort of perfidy from that noisome bunch.

I reserve my disgust for FReepers who drink the MSM Kool-Aid uncritically. They should know better.

28 posted on 02/04/2009 5:25:10 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Philo-Junius
You are right “our” representatives. As far as the dishonesty stick, you have not answered my question. Did the holocaust occur?
29 posted on 02/04/2009 5:25:26 PM PST by utahson
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To: ArrogantBustard

BXVI can not help it if unscrupulous like Angela Merkel, Card Kaspar, the MSM, the Israeli Rabbinate or the Weisenthal Center misrepresent this to bash the Church. He will just have to stay the course.


30 posted on 02/04/2009 5:26:47 PM PST by sobieski
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To: utahson

I believe it did. If I were proven wrong, though, I would not have been dishonest in my belief.

As a Catholic, you are no doubt familiar with the sin of detraction.


31 posted on 02/04/2009 5:26:52 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: utahson

Yes, the Nazis killed 15 million Slavs, Jews, Gypsies and handicapped as untermenschen.


32 posted on 02/04/2009 5:27:29 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski

Good point; we should welcome utahson back home, though; he’s clearly been on the wrong side of the Tiber quite awhile.


33 posted on 02/04/2009 5:28:35 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Philo-Junius

In the words of JP the Great: Ut Unum Sint.


34 posted on 02/04/2009 5:29:32 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski

Indeed. I’ll go slaughter the fatted calf—will you go get the robes?


35 posted on 02/04/2009 5:31:44 PM PST by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Philo-Junius

Yes indeed, and I’ll bring the wine. The good stuff in new wineskins.


36 posted on 02/04/2009 5:32:37 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski

Indeed ... when I review the list of folks who are verbally attacking God’s servant Benedict ... I notice that he’s making (as usual) all the right enemies.


37 posted on 02/04/2009 5:32:38 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

I think you are right; Bp Fellay will not allow this moment to pass thanks to a - with all due respect - crank like Williamson to get in the way.


38 posted on 02/04/2009 5:34:01 PM PST by sobieski
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To: sobieski

In last fifteen years, I have not attended Mass regularly because of my personal feeling with the loss of a loved one. That being said, I am a Catholic and was raised one and still believe in the teachings of the Church. Both my parents were Eucharist Ministers, taught CCD and taught Sunday school teachers for about 12 years. When I do go to Mass, I do not take communion because I am not fulfilling the responsibilities I should to receive the body of Christ.


39 posted on 02/04/2009 5:36:13 PM PST by utahson
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To: DeepThought42

The four SSPX bishops have NOT been “rehabilitated” or “reinstated.”

They have had one particular juridical penalty lifted.

They are still suspended and irregular. I.e., they are still forbidden by Church law to celebrate any sacrament or exercise any office in the Church. They have not even been restored to full communion with the Catholic Church.

But the Pope is to be held responsible for everything they say?


40 posted on 02/04/2009 5:36:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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