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FAA releases cockpit audio for Flight 1549's Hudson landing
Yahoo ^ | 02/05/09

Posted on 02/05/2009 9:05:40 AM PST by jwparkerjr

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1 posted on 02/05/2009 9:05:41 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: jwparkerjr
Always very professional ... all the way through it.

I would have been calling for my Dad!


Thanks

2 posted on 02/05/2009 9:11:08 AM PST by G.Mason (Alarm & Muster)
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To: jwparkerjr; nutmeg; ELS; firebrand; Yehuda; Dutchy

major bump


3 posted on 02/05/2009 9:12:44 AM PST by RaceBannon (We have sown the wind, but we will reap the whirlwind. NObama. Not my president.)
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To: jwparkerjr
Capt. Sully and the controllers were real pros through this.
4 posted on 02/05/2009 9:12:46 AM PST by colorado tanker ("I just LOVE clinging to my guns and my religion!!!!" - Sarah Palin)
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To: jwparkerjr

I’m not a fan of disaster porn but that was a real pleasure to listen to.


5 posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:17 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Wow! Amazing!


6 posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:26 AM PST by beckysueb (Palin/Jindahl in 2012)
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To: Pontiac

Bumpedness


7 posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:27 AM PST by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: G.Mason
My recording would have been:

*gulp *heeelp* *please* ...crap...

8 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:03 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: G.Mason

Air Force training.


9 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:21 AM PST by pfflier
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To: jwparkerjr

How come they kept saying 1529?


10 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:27 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (American Revolution II, overdue.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Is it too late to elect Sully President?


11 posted on 02/05/2009 9:15:52 AM PST by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: jwparkerjr

One cool character.


12 posted on 02/05/2009 9:16:08 AM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: pfflier
Air Force training.

That and experience. I'm sure his glider experience came in handy too.
13 posted on 02/05/2009 9:16:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: jwparkerjr

Controller was waaay kewl..low key also..


14 posted on 02/05/2009 9:17:44 AM PST by ken5050 (Don't blame me, I voted for Palin!!)
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To: jwparkerjr

bfl


15 posted on 02/05/2009 9:18:30 AM PST by fightinJAG (Good riddance, UAW.)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Nobody’s perfect. I guess as long as there’s no similar flight number in that area it works out OK.


16 posted on 02/05/2009 9:19:27 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: cripplecreek
Early on in the event several posters here took exception to news reports that controllers had instructed the flight to land at this airport or that airport. A couple of us insisted the controllers would never, ever 'instruct' a pilot what to do in an emergency. We took a bit of heat. These exchanges really back up what we were saying at the time, that the PIC would be calling the shots with ATC doing what was necessary to accommodate the decisions being made in the cockpit. If it were just a matter of saying "we told you so" I wouldn't have posted it though. Truth is, it's very informative to hear how matter of fact the situation was handled by everyone involved. The very first transmission is departure giving them a turn, then the captain responds with the fact they've lost both engines. Notice there is no change in the tone or pitch of either the flight crew or the guys on the ground. I suspect you would have heard just about the same exchanges from any flight involving the captain of a scheduled airline flight. Not to take away from Capt. Sully's accomplishments, but the level of professionalism that's in those cockpits is truly amazing!
17 posted on 02/05/2009 9:21:06 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: jwparkerjr
Early on in the event several posters here took exception to news reports that controllers had instructed the flight to land at this airport or that airport. A couple of us insisted the controllers would never, ever 'instruct' a pilot what to do in an emergency.

Most folks have no idea what's going on in the tower and cockpit. They've seen too many movies where aircraft are shown with an "EJECT!" light.

18 posted on 02/05/2009 9:23:53 AM PST by TankerKC (Yes we can? I already could.)
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To: pfflier

>> My recording would have been: *gulp *heeelp* *please* ...crap... by CodeToad

>> Air Force training.

In all the years I have been on Free Republic, I have never taken a comment personally - until now. Sir, you’re outta line. I’m a retired B-767 Captain & Line Check Airman for a major airline, Instructor pilot, Vietnam veteran. Frankly, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

I flew large airplanes between 1970 and 2004 - DC-3, -6, -7, -8, Connies, B-707, -720, -727, -737, -757, and -767. I saw NO significant difference in the skill levels of airline pilots between all the Air Force, Army, civilian, Marine Corps and Navy pilots in my career. Period.


19 posted on 02/05/2009 9:24:52 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: pfflier

I know one or two military trained pilots...Air Force and Navy...a lot of them end up as commercial pilots. Cool under pressure ...nothing but respect from me! If they couldn’t have hacked the training, they would have busted out. It takes an extraordinary person to be a great pilot.


20 posted on 02/05/2009 9:24:53 AM PST by KatyTexasMom
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To: jwparkerjr

Anybody got a transcript?


21 posted on 02/05/2009 9:26:05 AM PST by Hawthorn
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To: CodeToad

Reminds me of Georgia Lass’ final 2 words before she is vaporized by a falling toilet seat from a Soviet space station....”Oh, shite!”


22 posted on 02/05/2009 9:26:35 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
Probably just misstatements in the going's on of the moment. Sounded like Sully himself used 1539 on one of the early transmissions. Truth is, once communication is established between ATC and a pilot they use a variety of ID’s for further transmissions. Although they don't usually change the numerical designation!

Somewhere in the first of half of the audio the controller gives a turn to another flight and you can't really tell what the call was.

23 posted on 02/05/2009 9:28:07 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: newfreep

One of the best HBO shows.
They ran it on the SciFi channel for a while.
Did the story every had some type of conclusion?


24 posted on 02/05/2009 9:28:38 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: ken5050
I liked his NY accent. Didn't show much, but when he first talked with Teterboro tower you could hear it then.
25 posted on 02/05/2009 9:29:14 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: QBFimi

I don’t see it as any inter-service jab.
Just a case of pride in a particular service.
We see it every day here on FR.


26 posted on 02/05/2009 9:29:33 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: jwparkerjr

I defer to the guy with his hand on the stick.


27 posted on 02/05/2009 9:31:14 AM PST by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: jwparkerjr
And for anyone wanting to know about CACTUS it would be the corporate telephony identifier for America West and US Airways.
28 posted on 02/05/2009 9:31:40 AM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: TankerKC

How true! It came up originally because the discrepancy between what the news guys were saying and what was almost certainly actually happening was just another indication of how little trust you can put into early news reports.

They were really confused by the runway numbering system! Had the poor guy taking off in all directions and even had him landing the opposite direction on the river.

I suspect Capt. Sully would make a much better reporter than the reporters would make airline pilots!


29 posted on 02/05/2009 9:33:30 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: jwparkerjr

Who voiced ‘idiot’ at 0:57? Or was that something else?


30 posted on 02/05/2009 9:33:50 AM PST by steveo
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To: QBFimi
That's wonderful to know. It is a testament to all the airlines that employ experienced pilots.

I'll still take someone who has 2,000 hours of military aircraft experience, particularly including combat experience over a pilot with 2,000 hours in a Delta feeder.

31 posted on 02/05/2009 9:34:00 AM PST by pfflier
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To: Deb
Is it too late to elect Sully President?

Now that's a great idea. :)

32 posted on 02/05/2009 9:34:55 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: OBXWanderer

And of the old US Air guys were none too happy about it.


33 posted on 02/05/2009 9:35:26 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Liberal media gloating makes me feel like reloading)
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To: OBXWanderer

The identifier for the plane that caught fire and crashed into the Everglades several years ago was Critter. They have some pretty creative call signs for themselves!


34 posted on 02/05/2009 9:35:53 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: OBXWanderer
oops, sorry

And "many" of the old US Air guys were none too happy about it.

35 posted on 02/05/2009 9:36:22 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Liberal media gloating makes me feel like reloading)
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To: SJSAMPLE

The show never resolved but, in a way, lived on in the show Pushing Daisies, which started out as a plot for an episode of Better Off Dead but it’s also been cancelled.


36 posted on 02/05/2009 9:36:45 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: jwparkerjr

A non-yahoo link would be nice. Work system doesn’t let me play yahoo news, but I can play anything youtube all day (/boggle)


37 posted on 02/05/2009 9:37:22 AM PST by Domandred (Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.)
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To: Domandred

Sorry about that, it was the only thing I saw at this early stage. I’ll be looking for something more, especially a transcript of the entire flight, all two minutes or so.


38 posted on 02/05/2009 9:39:38 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: QBFimi
I flew large airplanes between 1970 and 2004 - DC-3, -6, -7, -8, Connies, B-707, -720, -727, -737, -757, and -767

Wow, what a resume! Thank you for your service, sir.

Which of those aircraft was your favorite to fly? I've heard that the Connie was beautiful (and it was), but not fun to fly.

39 posted on 02/05/2009 9:40:02 AM PST by TonyInOhio (If Barry's middle name were Lee, we could call him Barackli! (say it out loud :-)
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To: jwparkerjr

(paraphrased)

“1549, you can land runway one at Teterboro.”

“We can’t do it.”

“OK, which runway would you like at Teterboro?”

“We’re gonna be in the Hudson.”

...”I’m sorry, say again?”

Since it had such a wonderful ending, I can say, LOL! and the matter-of-fact tones both pilot and air traffic control use are just amazing. Thanks for posting, very interesting.


40 posted on 02/05/2009 9:42:47 AM PST by agrace
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To: jwparkerjr
It came up originally because the discrepancy between what the news guys were saying and what was almost certainly actually happening was just another indication of how little trust you can put into early news reports.

It's not just the early reports! Two examples

1. During Desert Storm one of the networks had video of an F-16 taking off...in afterburner. The "aviation" expert said, "What we are looking at here is the rear thruster-booster on a fighter-bomber that is landing. LOL

2. Another aviation expert talking about JFK Jrs crash saying that you turn the aircraft with the rudder.

41 posted on 02/05/2009 9:43:23 AM PST by TankerKC (Yes we can? I already could.)
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To: steveo

sounded more like “ATA, call ...” definitely not what you wrote.


42 posted on 02/05/2009 9:43:33 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Play the new "rehab" card: apologize for cheating on your taxes)
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To: QBFimi; CodeToad
I saw NO significant difference in the skill levels of airline pilots between all the Air Force, Army, civilian, Marine Corps and Navy pilots in my career. Period.

With all due respect, sir, I didn't take his comment as a dismissal of the other branches of the military, I thought it was just a compliment to military training in general.

43 posted on 02/05/2009 9:44:10 AM PST by proud American in Canada ("We can, and we will prevail.")
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To: QBFimi

actually, I took the comment as any military-trained pilot would have done that, but Sully happened to be Air Force, right?

Hearing this transcript was most impressive of the level of professionalism all around. kudos to all!!


44 posted on 02/05/2009 9:46:05 AM PST by KEmom (Please send viable Conservative candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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To: Domandred
OK, I made an mp3 file of the audio. It's on my site at: http://www.jwparker.com/cactus1549.mp3

Cactus 1549

I gave you the url in case my html doesn't work like it should!
45 posted on 02/05/2009 9:48:45 AM PST by jwparkerjr (God Bless America!)
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To: KEmom

Well, the military and civilian training is just a starter for the airline training programs, as is the glider training (I’m a glider instructor, too, and own a high-performance Schleicher ASW).

Air Force, Navy, Army, Marines, civilian. Whatever. If he made the cut, he’s good.


46 posted on 02/05/2009 9:53:31 AM PST by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"Dead Lie Me" is easily one of the best TV series ever produced and faaaar better than Pushing daiseys"! A shame it lasted only 2 seasons. Loved the final line & scene of last episode - "It's not so bad...being dead like me."

A new direct-to-DVD movie is being released later this month that picks up 5 years later. One interesting aspect is George reveals herself to her living family. Alas, Laura Harris as "Daisy, Daisy Adair" was replaced by a new actress and "Rube" has moved on.

The 2 seasons on DVD is HIGHLY recommended as is the new DVD movie. I pre-ordered via Amazon.com here

http://www.amazon.com/Dead-Like-Me-After-Death/dp/B001JV5BHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1233856070&sr=1-1

47 posted on 02/05/2009 9:56:47 AM PST by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: RckyRaCoCo
And of the old US Air guys were none too happy about it.

a bit off topic, but one of my favorite flying stories was about an "old US Air Guy" and I think Sully would appreciate it. As I recall he reminded me of Sully, maybe a bit more weight, same amount of gray.

CLT to IAH back a week or so after Kennedy Jr. put his plane in the ocean. At CLT we received a gate hold for WX or something at Houston. US Air made us deplane for about an hour. Capt and First officer also deplaned for awhile and were in the waiting area close to the ticket agent and her desk. FO looked EXTREMELY young, and I think Capt.(the typical seasoned Sully look) sensed some of the pax quietly commenting about FO's age. As we reboarded, Capt came on intercom. As part of his briefing he mentioned, "and due to some current events (Kennedy), there has been talk about experience levels on flight decks, and I want to assure all of you back there, that there is 41 years of airline flight experience on this flight deck, and I've got 40 of em."

48 posted on 02/05/2009 10:04:38 AM PST by OBXWanderer
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To: QBFimi

Question for you. What really struck me was the way the controller at Teterboro stepped in and said they could take the plane, and give him runway #1 immediately. There was litrerally no time...how was that possible?


49 posted on 02/05/2009 10:07:03 AM PST by ken5050 (Don't blame me, I voted for Palin!!)
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To: QBFimi

Thank you for your service to our great country, too!! (I had meant to write that in my first response)


50 posted on 02/05/2009 10:08:48 AM PST by KEmom (Please send viable Conservative candidates to Massachusetts!!)
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