Posted on 02/05/2009 5:00:13 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
Also, before the Seven Day Creation, we had a different “aeon”—Age; Peter's “First Earth Age” and "First Heaven Age", which KJV just translates "First Earth" and "First Heaven".
It was different in many respects from this, the “Second Earth Age” and "Second Heaven Age"; and the details of the differences do not particularly concern us, as far as God is concerned. If it did, He would have explicitly told us more about it.
What we do see is that that Age was ended by Satan's Rebellion and Overthrow, so we have enough to tell us why, though not when.
It is enough to put us on track in this Age, to help make the choice for God or Satan, before the coming of the Third Aeon—the Restored Earth & "Third Heaven Age"... without the presence of Satan & those who choose badly.
It is a bit of a shame that KJV translators used ‘earth’ and ‘Heaven’ as the translation of ‘aeon’, but they did...just like in ONE spot (Acts 12:4) they translated ‘Pascha’ as ‘Easter’ instead of ‘Passover’, like all the other places it occurred.
“LOL...Looks like the inmates have taken over the asylum :o)”
Not so it is called good solid wisdom and my belief in Christ and the Bible is strong. It is the “ultimate reality”. I have problems with goofy doctrines and those who purport them. St. Paul warned the Ch-urch about these things in his letter to Titus Chapter 3:8-9
8The saying is sure.I desire that you insist on these things, so that those who have come to believe in God may be careful to devote themselves to good works; these things are excellent and profitable to everyone. 9But avoid stupid controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.
Let us know when this reviewer graduates from high school, and try again — with another YEC editorial posing as “news”...
Right back at ya d:op
(Excuse the double post. GGG whines if I ping him and DallasMike with the same keystroke...)
You still don’t know when you’re going to graduate from high school. Suddenly all your replies make sense :o)
Actually my point is that people thought Mt St Helen’s was safe too... much like they think that the volcano that Mexico City is on is safe.
Are they? Only hindsight gives us an immutable answer, the rest is probabilities and educated guesses.
==After reading the Bible, it is the last place I would look for understanding the natural sciences. And speaking or arrogance, how is it the Creationists hold their view as true over other creation myths.
Hey, if the Lord doesn’t convict you, then you haven’t been chosen (yet). It’s that simple. The Temple of Darwin (read: materialist evolution) is for those who still hide their face from God.
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Actually, it was Ussher who claimed to have identified the date. The culprit who claimed,
"this work took place and man was created by the Trinity on October 23, 4004 B.C., at nine o'clock in the morning."
was John Lightfoot:
John Lightfoot (1602-1675), Vice-Chancellor of Cambridge University was a contemporary of Ussher. Lightfoot published his calculations in 1644, before Ussher's were completed.
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Both were sadly deluded -- if not demented -- as are those who worship at their feet...
Nobody can forsee the future or guarantee that all of the underlying assumptions are correct.
Current scientific theory on Earth age is based on assumptions that radioactive decay rates have remained relatively constant. Their observations tend to support this, as they have never been observed to be substantially variable.
The only YEC theories I have seen that attempt to account for the observed data on uranium decay posit that by some yet unexplained process what appears to be 4.5 billion years worth of uranium decay happened within the space of about a year during the Noachian flood, and happened without the ususal heat that would be associated with the decay. Otherwise the amount of heat that would be generated by that amount of decay in that time frame would have vaporized the Earth.
... yet you never learned to use the apostrophe...
Impressive -- most impressive... [</sarcasm>]
>>After reading the Bible, it is the last place I would look for understanding the natural sciences. And speaking or arrogance, how is it the Creationists hold their view as true over other creation myths. <<
Well... it is useful to see what the views of the day were when it was written.
But it certainly does not appear that God disrupts human learning and development with revelations of science beyond what humans have discovered for themselves.
I think He wants us to explore, discover and learn on our own.
Thus looking at his revelations thousands of years ago only tells us what they were ready for at the time.
On the age of the earth, modern science can quickly show it is older than the highest numbers the people in the time of Abraham could have understood.
That God didn’t reveal what they were not ready for is not any stranger than him not revealing atomic theory in the 1700’s. We have to learn on our own and using God as an excuse to learn about the world is counter-intuitive to me.
...But which "Lord"??? The Christian, the Moslem, the Jewish, the Buddhist, the Hindu, the Krishna, the Hari, the Vishnu? Or are you referring to Jesus, Moses, or Mohammed?
Are they all one and the same? Or are they separate "Gods" or "Lords".
Just who the heck is going to "convict" me?
The God of the Bible. The God who created you. He wants you to know Him. And if you read His word, pray to Him, and sincerely ask Him to reveal Himself to you, the chances of actually getting to know Him go waaaayyy up. Ask, seek, knock, and the door leading to your Creator and Savior will be opened to you. It’s that simple.
“Young-earth creationism is impossible.” [excerpt]Oh rats, someone forgot to tell God that.
==Oh rats, someone forgot to tell God that.
Can you imagine. If they ever did manage such a meeting, they would be saying “with God all things are possible” before they even had a chance to get out their original message.
i use shorthand in most of my texting endeavors on net message boards.....
Then why is the prospect of a 4.5 billion year old Earth so hard to accept?
Now, if you didn't waste the other 99.999% of your time hyping that YEC heresy -- you might actually find yourself committed to following our Lord's Great Commission...
BTW, do you know where that "fidgety-" bit he slings at you came from?
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