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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26

Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts Say; “Probably Not!”

Let me be the first to admit that I have been a constant debunker of the “Obama Born Overseas” stories. How could it be possible? How could the DNC, Hillary, Edwards, the RNC, McCain, Romney, AP, BBC, ABC, FNC, etc, (and every 100th listing in the DC phone book) not have checked this out to its last level of possibility?

Well, it appears that they didn’t! Everyone assumed “the other guy did it.”

Forget for the moment all the clues left by the high-priced Obama and DNC legal teams. They are huge.

Obama and the DNC always argue “standing.” They could eliminate every legal challenge in 5 minutes by simply producing a certified copy of the original long-form birth certificate. Throw in the testimony of the Hawaii Registrar of Documents, a few retired FBI chief document examiners, and the doctor who delivered him for good measure.

If they did that in two or three courts of record, in light of the obvious media coverage it would receive, every other court nationwide would accept the precedence and the cases would all be over.

But they don’t. They keep telling the courts, “please don’t hear this case.” No proof of any kind. Just the legalese argument that the plaintiffs have no standing before that court.

That’s so overreaching, it’s like buying a refinery to get a 3000 mile oil change! And one day, some court is going to say…. “Show me the money, er,. ah, I mean, Show me the documents!”

But there is a second, and perhaps new point!

Where is that doctor who delivered him, or the midwife?

Stop and think. The delivery of a half Negro – half Caucasian baby was rare anyhere in 1961. Oriental babies were common in Hawaii of course, but a half Negro-half Caucasian baby with the funny name of Barrack Obama, in Hawaii? In 1961?

Even of you were a Republican, if you delivered a future President of the United States, wouldn’t you call some newspaper somewhere with your story. Or if you were the assistant obstetrician, or the anesthesiologist, or the scrub nurse?

What about the circulating nurse, or the pediatrician, one of a dozen nurses on the 24 hour-a-day shifts in the nursery, one of many nurses on the ward where Mrs. Obama would have stayed for three days, a records registrar, a technician of any kind, hell, even the janitor!

What about the clerks, ambulance drivers….. somebody ?!?!?!

Anybody ?!?!?!

Wouldn’t someone have been yelling their “credit” for this from the rooftops???? The date when he was born is (supposedly) known. Certainly all these (supposed) people would know where they were working then!

Where is somebody, anybody, who was there or even remembers the birth?

Sherlock Holmes once solved a case by noticing the dog that DID NOT bark.

Is this the same situation?


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To: CitizenM; Vendome
his sister says Obama was born at one of two hospitals in Hawaii(I forget the names)

One sibling said one hospital; another said another hospital. Neither of them could possibly have been eyewitnesses. His grandmother, though, and older half-brother and half-sister, who all were old enough to remember his birth, claimed to have been present at his birth in Kenya.
121 posted on 02/05/2009 9:09:28 PM PST by aruanan
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To: gidget7
Its really quite simple. When military personell have a child born abroad, the State Department issues a US birth certificate called" Certificate of Birth of American Abroad."

Its like being born on a ship with US Flag.

The law deems such persons born abroad as being naturally born in the USA.

122 posted on 02/05/2009 9:09:43 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: gidget7
Its really quite simple. When military personell have a child born abroad, the State Department issues a US birth certificate called" Certificate of Birth of American Abroad."

Its like being born on a ship with US Flag.

The law deems such persons born abroad as being naturally born in the USA.

123 posted on 02/05/2009 9:09:43 PM PST by Candor7 (Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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To: quintr
REVISED

Called a Con Law buddy in LA who agreed.

Now; definitely Biden (25th Amd US Con)
From the time the electors met in DC until Jan 20; probably Biden.
Pre-election; probably up to DNC, emergency meeting ,etc.
From date of Election until moment Electors met in DC and voted;.... a legal sh*tstorm that would make Bush-Gore look like Small Claims Court.

(PS, this guy I called in LA is good. I always cribbed off his Con Law notes, he from my Advocacy papers!)

124 posted on 02/05/2009 9:10:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: LachlanMinnesota

Isn’t it amazing how what should be the easiest to answer questions about this issue are never asked by anyone directly to Obama? The media and liberals really don’t want to know the truth. They can’t handle the truth!


125 posted on 02/05/2009 9:11:07 PM PST by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: MindBender26

these cases are a day late and a dollar short. There is no chance in hell this will be heard by the supreme court. Had this actually been an issue before the election, maybe. Obama is a sitting president, and will not be thrown out at this point.


126 posted on 02/05/2009 9:11:28 PM PST by wafflehouse (RE-ELECT NO ONE !)
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To: Smokeyblue

DAMN, Thanks. I did NOT catch that!!!!!!

U Da Man!


127 posted on 02/05/2009 9:12:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: Smokeyblue
TROLL ALERT

The Obamessiah was born in Bethlehem, or Wilkes Barre. I forget exactly which, but it was in Pennsylvania.

As proof, I offer the voter rolls of several precincts in Philadelphia. A Mr. Barack Hussein Obama voted in several of these precincts at various times on election day, and also voted by absentee ballot in several others.

What more proof does one need, you racist, hegemonic, gender-normative, patriarchal Republican war monger? BTW, don't let the Chrissy Matthews teeshirt and wet-leg trousers fool you. I am not a troll, honest.

128 posted on 02/05/2009 9:13:44 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Ayers for SCOTUS. It's a done deal.)
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To: Smokeyblue

Like I said:

Old military axium: “That which the enemy defends the most is what is most important to him.”


129 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:03 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: zacharyroyce; All

Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC,

he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID"

130 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:50 PM PST by musicman (Until I see a REAL C.O.L.B. BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Kenny Bunk

!

:`)


131 posted on 02/05/2009 9:14:56 PM PST by MindBender26 (Does Obama want to end the USA as we know it? What indication has he given that he doesn't!?!)
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To: zacharyroyce

despite the countervailing evidence of a certified birth certificate, a birth announcement in the local newspaper (What, do you think they’ve been planning this since he was born?)
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SORRY! There is no certified birth cert. ,, just a poorly altered certificate of live birth on an “O” run website devoted to “big lie” refutations of facts that are inconvenient for the messiah ,, that basis of that COLB forgery has been determined to be his half-sisters.

I think the grandparents called in the birth announcement to the paper after receiving a phone call or (more likely) a telegram from Kenya.. The British were in charge then so they must have had working communications systems.. other than the mothers and babies name the other data in the announcement was completely wrong ... I’m not saying the photo of the page from the Honolulu advertiser was altered but something isn’t right about that... When you come to look at it in it’s entirety THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE THAT LOOKS RIGHT IF YOU ATTEMPT TO VALIDATE “O”s CLAIM ,, when the truth comes out (and it will) then it’ll all make sense.. but right now the simplest (and therefore most likely) explaination is KENYAN BORN .


132 posted on 02/05/2009 9:15:04 PM PST by Neidermeyer
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To: freekitty

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/files/obama_2006_tax_return.pdf


133 posted on 02/05/2009 9:15:53 PM PST by naturalborn
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To: zacharyroyce

I am not experiencing anything right now but a troll that needs to pedal his a$$ back to DU. What the hell does speculation about a birth have to to do with anomie? Anomie would be the murdering of the unborn, breakdown of the family, murder and violence. I think your suggestion that mere speculation is immoral is ridiculous. Get Zero to show his BC and it will all end. Obama is the POTUS and it is incumbent on him to show his BC. Honestly, I could care less where he was born as he will do more to further Conservative ideology in four years than Bush ever dared in eight.


134 posted on 02/05/2009 9:16:40 PM PST by WildcatClan (Iam fimus mos ledo ventus apparatus)
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To: zacharyroyce

Zachary, I work, drive, attended public school, went to college and have a passport. The only way I am allowed to do those things is with handing over my birth certificate. One certified and traceable in records. They keep it. You are not allowed to show it to them and say, neener, neener, sorry maybe another time you can touch it!


135 posted on 02/05/2009 9:16:40 PM PST by OafOfOffice
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To: Kenny Bunk

HeeHee. You’re funny. : )

You Sir or Madame are most definitely not a troll. You’re all clear.


136 posted on 02/05/2009 9:17:57 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: txflake

“0’s blood is now starting to leak into the water. Once the sea goes red with it, he will be swamped with eligibility evidence, out of the woodwork...”

-I believe you are right. We as a nation elect a black man as president of the United States. Aren’t we progressive. Although we know he is unqualified for the job we go ahead and do it anyway. But the powers that be want an escape clause...the birth certificate. Nobody gets standing until it’s obvious that Obama has to go. At that point, the SCOTUS will surprisingly hear the case and give someone standing. Obama will be shown to be a pretender to the crown, a fraud. He will be removed from office as a charlatan and the Messiah will come crashing down along with Blagoiovich. Shortly thereafter, the Feds will turn up evidence that he was involved with Resko and Blago in a Chicago scheme so as to confim that we were very progressive and dodged a bullet because this guy we believed in turned out not only to be a liar and a cheat.

Result: America buries the White Man’s burden. Obama is disgraced.


137 posted on 02/05/2009 9:19:30 PM PST by johnnycap
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To: MindBender26
Wouldn't any C.E.O. who had his salary frozen by "The One" have standing?
I believe Obama is about to become the victim on his own pride.
Tick...tick...tick
138 posted on 02/05/2009 9:19:43 PM PST by The Brush
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To: zacharyroyce

And your point is?


139 posted on 02/05/2009 9:20:28 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: SvenMagnussen

He can’t be natural born because his father was a british subject and his mother was too young to confer that status.

It has nothing to do with where he was born.

John


140 posted on 02/05/2009 9:20:32 PM PST by Diggity
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