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Obama Born In The U.S. ? New Facts And Questions Say; 'Probably Not!'
Source? Sherlock Holmes | MB26

Posted on 02/05/2009 7:52:01 PM PST by MindBender26

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To: zacharyroyce
—despite the countervailing evidence of a certified birth certificate, a birth announcement in the local newspaper..

You are correct in your assertions, but neither item are in any way proof of a natural born citizen.

In 1961 a foreign born child of a Hawaii resident could be registered in Hawaii - Therefore they would have a valid Hawaiian Birth Certificate but NOT necessarily be a "natural born citizen", and in 0bama's case he would not be given his mother's age and father's nationality.

The newspaper announcement is merely a result of his birth being registered in Hawaii (all registrations were reported in the paper) and shed no further light on his eligibility, it merely confirms his birth was registered, but, as already stated, that didn't validate his eligibility.

So your "Evidence" is meaningless, and the preponderance of evidence is that 0bama is going to extraordinary lengths, and cost, to conceal the details of his birth certificate.

Perhaps you should address that...

161 posted on 02/05/2009 9:40:48 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: MindBender26
Called a Con Law buddy in LA who agreed.    Who on Earth would trust a constitutional lawyer from California to know squat about the U.S. Constitution? 
162 posted on 02/05/2009 9:42:24 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
None of them would speak if they were honoring their commitment to patient confidentiality

what patient confidentiality? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090206/ap_on_re_us/octuplets

The doctors' reports were included in more than 300 pages of documents released to The Associated Press by the state Division of Workers' Compensation ....which were released to the AP following a public records request

163 posted on 02/05/2009 9:42:58 PM PST by blueplum
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To: aruanan
"His grandmother, though, and older half-brother and half-sister, who all were old enough to remember his birth, claimed to have been present at his birth in Kenya. "
You can go to Kenya with a 20 dollar bill and get a dozen people to say anything you want them to say.  Great evidence!
164 posted on 02/05/2009 9:44:53 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: El Gato
1961 was 48 years ago. No doctor will remember ANYBODY he delivered 48 years ago by name

Don't need to.

If he was born in Hawaii the doctor's name will be on the original Birth Certificate along with the location.

But 0bama won't let us see that...

Probably because that information doesn't exist.....

165 posted on 02/05/2009 9:45:12 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: MindBender26
What if Dad and Mom are NB citizens,

Even if they had been previously natrualized, the child would be natural born...but BHO's father was not a citizen at all, nor did he ever become one. One citizen parent doesn't cut it, in most circumstances. He was was British subject at birth, and if born in the US also a US Citizen, but probably not a natural born citizen. If not born in the US, then not a citizen at all, under the laws of the time. Unless later naturalized of course.

166 posted on 02/05/2009 9:45:45 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: HawaiianGecko
You can go to Kenya with a 20 dollar bill and get a dozen people to say anything you want them to say. Great evidence!

When did you do this?

Or who do you know who has done this ?

167 posted on 02/05/2009 9:46:15 PM PST by Wil H (No Accomplishments, No Experience, No Resume No Records, No References, Nobama..)
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To: Salamander

The doctor who delivered me July 30, 1961 knows me by name and I’m a “nobody”.


HAHA Now that’s funny!


168 posted on 02/05/2009 9:46:30 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: Yooper4Life; Calpernia; Drew68
But, why go through the trouble to obtain the watered-down short form dated 2007 (I mean, he actually had to go out of his way to get it from Hawaii), when he could just pull the one he found in 1986 or whenever from his safe. Doesn’t make sense unless there was something negative on the folded copy.

Somewhere I have an original copy of my birth certificate. I have seen it since 1986. I have no idea where it is right now. When I needed one for passport purposes it was a lot easier to just order a copy and all I received was something similar to Obama's "certification".

It seems rather unlikely that Obama had a safe in 1986.

169 posted on 02/05/2009 9:46:54 PM PST by wideminded
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To: zacharyroyce

Funny, I thought when you added NOT to a thing you had nothing.

Was he born in the US? I think it is a valid question. Absent the original certificate, the only way to determine his place of birth is to look for evidence (ie facts, not because he says so) to prove or disprove. I hardly call that delusional.

Producing the original birth certificate could shut this down right away and save alot of money in billable hours. Makes no sense to me.

Oh, and factcheck? Since when is that a reliable source?


170 posted on 02/05/2009 9:47:06 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: LachlanMinnesota

“Besides, long before the campaign, I’ll bet these people, if they existed at all (which I doubt) would have been paid off - he is from Blago land, after all.”

They would have been “offed” alright, and I don’t mean paid either if you know what I mean.


171 posted on 02/05/2009 9:48:40 PM PST by 2CAVTrooper (Man is not free unless government is limited.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
Whoever sealed Obama’s “birth certificate”

No one sealed it. In Hawaii, and in most other states now, birth certificates can not be accessed by just anyone. Pretty much has to be the person themselves, or a close relative, who needs it for a limited number of reasons.

The person themselves *can* give access to others however.

172 posted on 02/05/2009 9:48:47 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: HawaiianGecko
You can go to Kenya with a 20 dollar bill and get a dozen people to say anything you want them to say. Great evidence!

Damn, they are cheap in Kenya. Carville priced it at 100 dollar bills through trailer parks.

173 posted on 02/05/2009 9:53:52 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: El Gato

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=79174

Check this out El G.


174 posted on 02/05/2009 9:53:56 PM PST by Balata
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To: El Gato
"you probably would remember the more exotic Barack Hussein Obama".   You obviously haven't spent much time in the islands if you think that's an exotic name.
175 posted on 02/05/2009 9:54:19 PM PST by HawaiianGecko (Online internet polls are foolish: Winston Churchill, 1939)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
The only people speaking up are in Kenya! Therefore, he was a British citizen when born, IMHO.

He's admitted that much, because it doesn't matter where he was born. In cases of split nationality of the parents, "natural born" goes with the father, if the parents are married or the father acknowledges paternity. Now citizenship can go with both, and so if the One was born in Hawaii, or anywhere in the US, then he was also a citizen of the US, but not necessarily a natural born one.

176 posted on 02/05/2009 9:56:37 PM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: MindBender26

One thing is beyond doubt. He is hiding something and it has to do with his BC. Or lack of one.


177 posted on 02/05/2009 9:59:02 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: HawaiianGecko

It’s not terribly Hawaiian or Japanese is it? Were Arabic names common there in the early ‘60s?


178 posted on 02/05/2009 10:01:50 PM PST by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason.)
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To: MindBender26

self ping


179 posted on 02/05/2009 10:02:27 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: Kenny Bunk

Giggle, teehee.


180 posted on 02/05/2009 10:02:32 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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