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Most Americans say cheating on taxes is unacceptable
ap ^ | Feb 2, 2009

Posted on 02/07/2009 6:35:46 AM PST by george76

An IRS survey finds that nearly nine in 10 Americans think it is "not at all" acceptable to cheat on your taxes.

Although the survey was conducted in late August, its release comes as Tom Daschle, President Barack Obama's nominee to be Health and Human Services secretary, has acknowledged failing to pay more than $120,000 in taxes. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner had similar problems on a smaller scale.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruptdems; daschle; irs; lp; lping; taxcheatparty; taxes; taxevasion; tomdaschle

1 posted on 02/07/2009 6:35:47 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

Who conducted this survey? The IRS?


2 posted on 02/07/2009 6:37:30 AM PST by thesharkboy (<-- Looking for the silver lining in every cloud, since 1998)
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To: george76
An IRS survey finds that nearly nine in 10 Americans think it is "not at all" acceptable to cheat on your taxes.

This is interesting since 4 in 10 Americans don't pay taxes.

3 posted on 02/07/2009 6:37:35 AM PST by New Girl
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To: george76

hummmmmm eeeyeah, I can understand that since the average citizen can have his life ruined, but the “elite” can just pay up to get promoted


4 posted on 02/07/2009 6:37:59 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: george76
Most Americans say cheating on taxes is unacceptable

Most Americans don't realize that they are the ones being cheated.

UNACCEPTABLE!

5 posted on 02/07/2009 6:38:20 AM PST by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: unixfox

Wait til the goverment jacks up taxes. Then you would see a big change in those numbers.


6 posted on 02/07/2009 6:39:32 AM PST by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: thesharkboy
Who conducted this survey? The IRS?

LOL, yes, the IRS. It's in the article.

7 posted on 02/07/2009 6:40:21 AM PST by MyTwoCopperCoins
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To: george76

” An IRS survey finds that nearly nine in 10 Americans think it is “not at all” acceptable to cheat on your taxes. “

Ummmmmmmmm, yeah...

Like anybody’s gonna tell the IRS “Sure, it’s okay to cheat — I do it every day”.....


8 posted on 02/07/2009 6:40:28 AM PST by Uncle Ike (I'm more worried by the mistakes he hasn't made yet)
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To: New Girl
This is interesting since 4 in 10 Americans don't pay taxes.

Yep. The 4 in 10 non-taxpayers get angry when taxpayers don't fill up the redistribution pot.

9 posted on 02/07/2009 6:48:13 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: george76

nine in 10 Americans think it is “not at all” acceptable to cheat on your taxes.

The other 10% believes in tax avoidance the old fashioned way (creation of tax sheltered partnership, trusts, corporations and nonprofits) and have already booked time at Charlie Rangel’s Caribbean dacha


10 posted on 02/07/2009 6:50:39 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: george76

Most Americans inadvertently cheat on their taxes. I had no idea until this week that we are supposed to claim on our taxes everytime we borrow someones car. Who knew? I wonder how you claim it. Do you use a fair rental car amount plus gas. I believe that if you stay at people’s home for visits it is supposed to be claimed. What about eattting at someones home? The tax code is too complicated.


11 posted on 02/07/2009 6:57:54 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: TimSkalaBim; SunkenCiv; LucyT; traviskicks

yes.

The 4 in 10 non-taxpayers get angry when taxpayers don’t fill up the redistribution pot.


12 posted on 02/07/2009 6:58:41 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Sadly, the next time the Democrats want to talk about Republican “corruption” 54% of these people will have forgotten how many Democrats have been caught in this huge scandal.
13 posted on 02/07/2009 7:00:02 AM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: george76
I saw this type of reporting in the 90's. The MSM would claim that Americans thought cheating, lying, and stealing were acceptable with Klinton in office.

Then there was a 8 year break where they trumped up charges against the White House.

Now I guess they are back to 90's reporting.

14 posted on 02/07/2009 7:01:13 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: george76

Seems that it’s quite acceptable for the modern American political class.


15 posted on 02/07/2009 7:06:05 AM PST by VR-21
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To: MyTwoCopperCoins

It’s like having the KGB call you up at home and ask if you are loyal to the Party.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 7:07:09 AM PST by Leisler
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To: george76
Most Americans?

Is that a more concise way of saying "everyone but Democrats"?
17 posted on 02/07/2009 7:07:36 AM PST by chrisser (The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
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To: napscoordinator; george76
Every time you lend someone money, you technically must charge them a market rate of interest and report that interest as taxable interest income. And, if you don't charge them any interest, the IRS "imputes" interest.

Oh, and let's not forget about collecting sales taxes on yard sales or paying income tax on yard sale earnings!

IMHO: the tax code is a mess and must be stripped down and reduced in size so it's small enough to be drowned in a bath tub. And, as a nice side effect, it might then be simple enough for most folks to understand.

18 posted on 02/07/2009 7:09:52 AM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: napscoordinator
Most Americans inadvertently cheat on their taxes. I had no idea until this week that we are supposed to claim on our taxes everytime we borrow someones car.

I'd like to see that link

Anybody can give you up to $12K a year tax free. Over that, they pay the tax..

19 posted on 02/07/2009 7:10:13 AM PST by EVO X
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To: george76
It's only unacceptable unless you are a rich democrat, and then it's not only acceptable, it's the in thing.

I'm sick of this, I'm going to retire, sell my house and buy a place up in the mountains.

20 posted on 02/07/2009 7:15:07 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: thesharkboy

Wasn’t Geitner’s ‘smaller scale’ something really outrageous? And it only looks smaller by comparison?

I think there is a catchy bumper sticker in this — “Being Democratic means never having to pay your taxes ...”


21 posted on 02/07/2009 7:16:26 AM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: george76

Accidental cheating is fine and probably the norm, considering the complexity of the tax code. Unless you can afford an accountant the average taxpayer likely gets cheated by the government more often than not.


22 posted on 02/07/2009 7:42:35 AM PST by yazoo
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To: george76
The IRS uses its own studies like this to justify keeping the system as it is.

They can argue why would there be any reason to simplify the system if 90% of Americans believe its acceptable to pay the tax due under the current incomprehensible tax code.

23 posted on 02/07/2009 9:14:34 AM PST by montanajoe
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To: george76

Maybe, we should start reporting these obviously illegal tax evasions by rats to the IRS and to the following site.

http://www.rewardtax.com/

Former IRS Attorneys for Tax Whistleblower Rewards
Tax Whistleblower Reward Program
The United States of America Will Pay Huge Rewards to Anyone Who Exposes the Under reporting of Tax

THE PROBLEM: Billions of Dollars in Unpaid Taxes
In the United States of America, a small percentage of taxpayers (i.e., individuals, businesses, trusts, and estates) underreport and fail to pay up to $400 billion in taxes every year, according to a study released by the Internal Revenue Service. This small group is comprised of an elitist group of wealthy Americans and businesses who neglect or refuse to pay their fair share of tax and who undermine the stability of the country to satisfy their own personal greed. This missing revenue causes unnecessary increases in annual deficits, national debt, and national interest payments. In the end, this missing revenue must be made up by honest Americans through higher taxes.

Each year, the United States is forced to spend over $11 billion to finance IRS enforcement efforts aimed at catching individuals and corporations who underreport and fail to pay tax. However, the schemes, devices, and shelters used by these individuals and corporations to avoid the payment of tax have become so sophisticated that efforts by the IRS to detect them have failed. As a result, the annual amount of unreported and unpaid tax has steadily grown each year. Confronted with the devastating effect of the ongoing and systematic underreporting of tax by individuals and corporations, the United States is taking a new approach to enforcement efforts aimed at detecting the underreporting and nonpayment of tax.

THE SOLUTION: The American People
In recently enacted legislation (December 2006), Congress turned to the American people to expose taxpayers (i.e., individuals, businesses, estates, and trusts) who underreport and fail to pay tax. The United States has announced that it will reward any person who provides information that leads to the identification of $2 million or more of unreported tax, including interest and penalties. This new legislation guarantees that any person who provides information under this “Tax Whistleblower Reward Program” will receive a minimum of 15%, and a maximum of 30%, of the amount that the IRS actually collects. The new law, which provides a potential “windfall” to honest Americans who expose those who underreport and fail to pay tax, is known as the IRS Whistleblower Reward Program.

If you have information regarding a taxpayer (i.e., an individual, business, estate, or trust) that under reported or failed to pay tax, you will be rewarded by the United States for providing such information. Contact us NOW to start the process of identifying tax avoidance and obtaining your reward! Your confidentiality is guaranteed!


24 posted on 02/07/2009 9:17:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals or foriegn or domestic terrorists or both?)
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To: Black Birch

I don’t know about a link but it is all over the tv by that guy who had a car loaned to him and he did not pay taxes.


25 posted on 02/07/2009 9:27:16 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I don’t know about a link but it is all over the tv by that guy who had a car loaned to him and he did not pay taxes.

I suppose there could be some goofy state tax. But since you didn't provide any details I would guess maybe he "borrowed" the car from his business and the tax man says he owes income tax.

26 posted on 02/07/2009 9:50:36 AM PST by EVO X
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To: Black Birch

Maybe true. It was all over the news the last week though.


27 posted on 02/07/2009 9:54:29 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: george76

I consider the IRS to be unacceptable.


28 posted on 02/07/2009 9:59:52 AM PST by karnage
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To: george76

The minority vote Demwit.


29 posted on 02/07/2009 2:54:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: bamahead

possible ping


30 posted on 02/07/2009 5:18:26 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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31 posted on 02/07/2009 6:13:58 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: karnage

We have a winner.


32 posted on 02/07/2009 7:52:27 PM PST by djsherin (The federal government:: Because someone has to f*** things up!)
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To: napscoordinator
I had no idea until this week that we are supposed to claim on our taxes everytime we borrow someones car.

So then you should deduct the corresponding value if you loan your car to someone and don't charge them for it. I mean, in reality, not IRS speak.

33 posted on 02/07/2009 8:27:26 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Oh, and let's not forget about collecting sales taxes on yard sales or paying income tax on yard sale earnings!

Sales tax is not due on yard sale items because sales tax was already paid on each item (computed against a higher value, in fact). If you're in the business of selling stuff to people, you don't pay sales tax when you buy the stuff you're going to resell.

Also, income tax is certainly not due either because that would make the original purchase a business expense ("Cost of goods sold"), and you would actually show a loss on the transaction, which would offset other income, such as that from wages. Consistently lose money on a business and the IRS declares it a "hobby" business and will no longer allow losses to be declared (though I believe they can still be carried forward to be applied against future gains from the same business).

34 posted on 02/07/2009 8:32:04 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: george76
Most Americans say cheating on taxes is unacceptable

Well, so do I but it's the IRS, what are you going to do?

35 posted on 02/07/2009 8:33:45 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: rabscuttle385

Cheating on taxes and lying to the IRS or state tax thieves is perfectly acceptable to me... UNLESS you are one of the despicable excuses for a human being who once upon a time HELPED WRITE THE VERY TAX CODE YOU ARE EVADING. Then your hypocrisy should be well rewarded... tar and feathers for a start, followed by a mid-air dance whilst dangling by the neck from a short rope.


36 posted on 02/07/2009 8:53:51 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: bamahead; ExTexasRedhead; LucyT; Clintonfatigued; SunkenCiv; theothercheek; Just A Nobody; ml/nj
Most Americans say cheating on taxes is unacceptable

If that't the case, then why are we unfortunate enough to have a 'Rat Administration and a 'Rat Congress?

It's clear that by far the most cheating - and lame justifacations for it - in just about every sphere of life is done by 'Rats!!!

37 posted on 02/07/2009 8:58:20 PM PST by justiceseeker93
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To: Black Birch; napscoordinator

Sounds like that would be Tiny Tommy Daschle who “forgot” to include the value of his “free” limo service that he had every day for years since his sorry butt got kicked out of the senate. To the tune of $128,000.00 in taxes he finally PAID, sorry buggerer that he is.


38 posted on 02/07/2009 8:59:53 PM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc; napscoordinator
Sounds like that would be Tiny Tommy Daschle who “forgot” to include the value of his “free” limo service that he had every day for years since his sorry butt got kicked out of the senate.

I suspect your right. Some working stiff cheating on taxes wouldn't make the news..

39 posted on 02/08/2009 5:59:25 AM PST by EVO X
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To: george76

Yep, everyone in America files a tax form to dutifully report their state taxes every time they buy something on the internet.

Throw everyone in jail.

The dumbasses who wrote the laws and then violated them get put on death row.


40 posted on 02/08/2009 1:09:15 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: george76

That’s because most Americans don’t pay taxes.


41 posted on 02/08/2009 3:15:36 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Black Birch
Anybody can give you up to $12K a year tax free. Over that, they pay the tax..

Actually, it decreases the exemption limit on their estate tax, but that's a minor point.

42 posted on 02/08/2009 3:18:31 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper
Actually, it decreases the exemption limit on their estate tax, but that's a minor point.

It looks to me like there is a $1M gift exemption before it dings the estate exemption..

43 posted on 02/08/2009 4:21:45 PM PST by EVO X
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To: justiceseeker93

Thanks justiceseeker93. Well put.


44 posted on 02/08/2009 7:50:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: Black Birch
Anybody can give you up to $12K a year tax free. Over that, they pay the tax..

That's if the use of the car is a gift. If it's a limo provided as compensation for doing a job, then its value is income. Or change we can believe in. Or something.

45 posted on 02/08/2009 7:58:18 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: george76
Franken says, “Don’t forget me. I cheated on my taxes, too.”
46 posted on 02/09/2009 5:49:50 PM PST by slomark (www.IHateThemedia.com)
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