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Mexico drug gangs threaten cops on radio, kill them
Reuters ^ | Fri Feb 6, 2009 2: | By Lizbeth Diaz

Posted on 02/07/2009 4:23:45 PM PST by restornu

TIJUANA, Mexico (Reuters) - Mexican drug gangs near the U.S. border are breaking into police radio frequencies to issue chilling death threats to cops which they then carry out, demoralizing security forces in a worsening drug war.

"You're next, bastard ... We're going to get you," an unidentified drug gang member said over the police radio in the city of Tijuana after naming a policeman.

The man also threatened a second cop by name and played foot-stomping "narcocorrido" music, popular with drug cartels, over the airwaves.

"No one can help them," an officer named Jorge said of his threatened colleagues as he heard the threats in his patrol car.

Sure enough, two hours later the dead bodies of the two named policemen were found dumped on the edge of the city, their hands tied and bullet wounds in their heads.

Cartels killed some 530 police in Mexico last year, some of them corrupt officers who were working for rival gangs. Others were killed in shoot-outs or murdered for working against the gangs or refusing to turn a blind eye to drug shipments.

"These death threats are part of the psychological warfare that organized crime is using against officers," said Tijuana police chief Gustavo Huerta.

"Before, the gangs began infiltrating the radio after a police execution, which was bad enough, but now

Some gangs sarcastically offer their "condolences" over the air after an execution, broadcasting messages like: "We are so sorry

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cops; drugcartels; drugwarconsequences; gang; gangs; gwot; illegalimmigrant; killingcops; mexico; organizedcrime; terroist; terrorism; threat; threats; tijuana; wod; wot
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1 posted on 02/07/2009 4:23:45 PM PST by restornu
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To: restornu

This would be a good area for practice for our new Raptor Squadrons.


2 posted on 02/07/2009 4:25:34 PM PST by screaminsunshine (f)
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To: restornu

And the lefties wonder why we want the bored sealed up like a drum. Mexico is in pure chaos, and the drug dealers are in charge.


3 posted on 02/07/2009 4:27:08 PM PST by ritewingwarrior (Just say No to socialism.)
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To: ritewingwarrior

How would the libs get their drugs if we really sealed the border? That would be fascist!


4 posted on 02/07/2009 4:32:05 PM PST by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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To: ritewingwarrior
And the lefties wonder why we want the bored sealed up like a drum.

Have you forgotten there were more than lefties who wanted amnesty for illegals not so far back - let alone sealing up the borders (which for far too many politicians representing us have no concerns whatsoever regarding border issues). Glenn Beck has been bringing border issues to light on a daily basis on his new show.

5 posted on 02/07/2009 4:32:34 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: ritewingwarrior
Mexico is in pure chaos, and the drug dealers are in charge.

You racist you. George Bush re-assured us, this is just family values, chicano style.

6 posted on 02/07/2009 4:32:34 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: restornu
Mexican drug gangs near the U.S...

Why the use of such inflammatory names?

They are not "drug gangs"...

No, no, no!

They are Community Organizers!

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7 posted on 02/07/2009 4:33:06 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: restornu

We could stop this in one day: end the “War on Drugs(TM)”.


8 posted on 02/07/2009 4:36:33 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: hinckley buzzard
Mexico is in pure chaos, and the drug dealers are in charge.

There are websites claiming illegal drug money keeps US financial wheelers and dealers above water. Given government lack of concern regarding drug cartels making cities like El Paso virtual war zones, it's a point to ponder (druggies ultimately get their just desserts and banks ultimately get funds to keep them afloat).

Meanwhile the borders might as well have "Welcome" signs over them.

9 posted on 02/07/2009 4:37:22 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: ritewingwarrior
And the lefties wonder why we want the bored sealed up like a drum. Mexico is in pure chaos, and the drug dealers are in charge.
You don't understand lefties. Lefties, especially the union ones, want the border sealed as tight as you do. You're mistaking them for the groin leeches in washington who get paid off by the amnesty lobby.

The right could actually make a lot of inroads by finding common ground with leftists increasingly disenfranchised by democrats. Many leftists are already moving towards things like participatory economics and away from socialist ideology.

10 posted on 02/07/2009 4:37:40 PM PST by ketsu (It’s not a campaign. It’s a taxpayer-funded farewell tour.)
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To: ritewingwarrior

By the time they do anything it will be too late. I’ve got my solution and it looks like a flying ashtray.


11 posted on 02/07/2009 4:39:10 PM PST by yankeebulldog ("Semper Viper!")
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To: ritewingwarrior
And the lefties wonder why we want the bored sealed up like a drum.

How I miss the days of the Bush administration. He knew how to secure our borders and crack down on this illegal alien invasion! Don't mess with Texas!


12 posted on 02/07/2009 4:42:10 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: wendy1946

If the U.S. legalized drugs like the libertarian party wants how would that affect the drug cartels in Mexico? Anyone care to explain this to me. I presume that it would take the wind out of their sails, right? Drugs would be cheaper too, right?


13 posted on 02/07/2009 4:43:23 PM PST by classified
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To: wendy1946

Yep, sure could. Or at least I know I could. Post the reserve down there and let them take up target practice.


14 posted on 02/07/2009 4:46:02 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: classified

The biggest difference would be that criminal organizations would no longer be the financial beneficiaries of drug transactions. And you’ve got to like that - unless you like strong, rich criminal organizations, that is.


15 posted on 02/07/2009 4:48:37 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: restornu

if you don’t build a fence due to illegal aliens then build it to keep the drug gangs out. because if they get to the U.S. our police will lose because they are handycapped by our legal system. Mexican cops aren’t restricted like ours and they are still taking horrific loses.


16 posted on 02/07/2009 4:48:49 PM PST by U.S.overallothers
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To: restornu; rabscuttle385

Ah, the legacy of El Presidente Jorge Boosh and his day laborer pimp Vincente Fox...


17 posted on 02/07/2009 4:49:04 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: restornu

The problem would be a gimme for some competent radio direction-finding activities, but my solution would be to just decriminalize drugs. Fight the problem, not the symptom. The problem is drug prohibition.


18 posted on 02/07/2009 4:50:28 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: classified

Wouldn’t change a thing in Mexico. The war down there is for control of the country’s profit engine, which is the drug trade. If drugs were legalized it would just intensify the war for control of the trade.

I’m actually for some limited legalization, but I still don’t think it would change anything down there.


19 posted on 02/07/2009 4:51:17 PM PST by oldleft
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To: dragnet2
I'm sorry to say, but Bush was way too buddy buddy with Mexico. And if he had been given the chance he would have gave them all amnesty. But we Texans are going to have to tank up our efforts and control the border ourselves, because the government is sure not going to.
20 posted on 02/07/2009 4:52:02 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: oldleft

Would it affect prices of drugs. Drugs made here wouldn’t that squeezed the market out of Mexico?


21 posted on 02/07/2009 5:10:29 PM PST by classified
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To: nbhunt

“But we Texans are going to have to tank up our efforts and control the border ourselves, because the government is sure not going to.”

I hate to break it to you, but South Texas is lost. I am a military guy stationed in Corpus Christi. This place is as scary as I have ever seen it. I was in Walmart today and it was like i was in Mexico City. I was the only English speaker in there at noon that I could see or hear. Everyone greets each other in Spanish, whether it be the old lady at the door or the cashier. The schools are horrible, the property taxes are insane and the crime keeps climbing. Sad, but I can’t wait to leave.


22 posted on 02/07/2009 5:10:54 PM PST by ThunderStruck94
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To: oldleft
The war down there is for control of the country’s profit engine, which is the drug trade. If drugs were legalized it would just intensify the war for control of the trade.

If drugs were legalized there would be no big profits for the Mexican gangs to fight over.

23 posted on 02/07/2009 5:17:12 PM PST by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: nbhunt

There is a valuable lesson here with GWB and Shwarzennaggar. Old Sicilian saying - “the type of man you become depends on the woman you marry”. GWB is married to a TexMex woman and her viewpoints/family/ethnic connections will influence his thinking. Look at Gov Shwarzennaggar. Seen that happen to many friends of mine. Smart guys with full potential marries a wife with limited outlook and thinking, and the guy must give up his dreams or divorce the wife.


24 posted on 02/07/2009 5:21:07 PM PST by Fee (Peace, prosperity, jobs and common sense)
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I’m guessing it’s the other way around, they kill them first then give the warning. JMO.


25 posted on 02/07/2009 5:32:28 PM PST by Current Occupant (The FIVE branches of Gov't: Executive, Judicial, Legislative, Indoctrination and Propaganda.)
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To: restornu

From Glenn Beck’s Fox show earkier this week, he reported that the reason we do not hear a lot about the Mexican violence is that Mexican journalists who take pictures of the dead and cover the stories on TV and in print, are being murdered.

The Mexican gangs are killing the Mexican news reporters, which is keeping a lot of the graphic pictures and stories out of the media. Yes there is some reporting, but not nearly the amount needed to display the full extent of the violence.

Bush had 8 years to close the borders. Obama certainly will not close them. Heck, he’ll probably tear down what fencing is at the Mexican border. It’s hurting the feelings of the Mexicans.


26 posted on 02/07/2009 5:32:28 PM PST by TheConservativeParty (That's Mrs.Chief Master Sgt. to you sonny.)
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To: ritewingwarrior

And the lefties wonder why we want the bored sealed up like a drum. Mexico is in pure chaos, and the drug dealers are in charge.


Why should the Lefties care? To them, it will be another opportunity (er, crisis).


27 posted on 02/07/2009 5:36:52 PM PST by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: restornu
The fruits of prohibition are beginning to fully ripen.

Time to declare all out economic war, by legalizing, and, promoting personal cultivation.

28 posted on 02/07/2009 5:42:14 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Proud non productive worker under directive 10-289)
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To: restornu

These F’s only supply the poison Americans smoke and inject!


29 posted on 02/07/2009 6:18:10 PM PST by Doc Savage ("Are you saying Jesus can't hit a curve ball? - Harris to Cerrano - Major League)
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To: restornu
The "legalize drugs" crowd seems to think these gangs of murderous thugs will become upstanding, law-abiding citizens if we just legalize drugs.

How utterly stupid!

These bastards are ALWAYS going to be murderers and they will ALWAYS try to control commerce with violence.

The answer is to pursue these people by monitoring their lavish lifestyles, catching them by surprise and shooting them down like rabid dogs with no warning.

The authorities have to make the killing of these criminals so widespread and thorough it takes the fun out of it.

These people should not just be stopped from smuggling drugs, they should be made to cease breathing.

If it takes a full armored division sweeping into the border towns, SO BE IT.

30 posted on 02/07/2009 6:21:29 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: restornu
They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
31 posted on 02/07/2009 6:44:30 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: coloradan
The problem would be a gimme for some competent radio direction-finding activities, but my solution would be to just decriminalize drugs.

A transmitter hunt with live quarry. In the late 70's the winner was the person with the lowest minutes + odometer sum when the transmitter was located. The starting point was the south parking lot at Sears in Chula Vista. The boundaries were the San Diego County line. Meet at 4:30 PM. Transmitter on at 5 PM. The advent of the DOPScan turned it into a road race.

32 posted on 02/07/2009 6:51:28 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: LuxMaker
Must state the definition of liberty:

Main Entry: lib·er·ty
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -ties
1 a : freedom from external (as governmental) restraint, compulsion, or interference in engaging in the pursuits or conduct of one's choice to the extent that they are lawful and not harmful to others b : enjoyment of the rights enjoyed by others in a society free of arbitrary or unreasonable limitation or interference
2 : freedom from physical restraint
3 : freedom from subjection to the will of another claiming ownership or services
4 : RIGHT liberty secured by the Fourteenth Amendment —W. Railroad LaFave and J. H. Israel>

Source of information.
33 posted on 02/07/2009 6:52:05 PM PST by LuxMaker (The Constitution is a mere thing of wax in the hands of the judiciary, Thomas J 1819)
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To: TheConservativeParty
Obama certainly will not close them. Heck, he’ll probably tear down what fencing is at the Mexican border. It’s hurting the feelings of the Mexicans.

Obama is moving as fast as possible to destroy the county. Opening the border is a no brainer on that account. Of course, Obama IS a no brainer.

34 posted on 02/07/2009 6:53:49 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

My guess is that a few predators with phase-sensitive RF equipment aboard could DF the signal in a few seconds, if that. And send a Hellfire or two. But, as I said, my preferred strategy is to end the War On (some) Drugs. Although, these are odious people enough that maybe we could do both.


35 posted on 02/07/2009 6:59:29 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: oldleft

Lots of people would grow their own. The cartels would collapse.


36 posted on 02/07/2009 7:00:31 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ThunderStruck94

I can only imagine. It’s been a long time since I was down there. But...it’s the same in North Texas also. I don’t go to the Walmart in Irving because of the very same reason. 30-40 years ago, Irving was the best place to live but not anymore. They have turned it into another Mexico. My daughter-in-law’s best friend’s husband is station there too, and she hates it. WalMart needs to have ICE come in and check things out....but they won’t.


37 posted on 02/07/2009 7:04:20 PM PST by nbhunt
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To: restornu

Much to Obambi’s delight.


38 posted on 02/07/2009 7:30:56 PM PST by Force of Truth (Sarah Palin in 2012!!!!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!!)
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To: coloradan
The cartels have killed over 5,000 people in 2008. Most of them inside Mexico. There is probably as much gang on gang killing as gang vs law enforcement. The same is true north of the border. The black and hispanic gangs continue fighting for market share. I think legalizing the drugs would do nothing but expand the market. We have multiple generations of ne'er do wells who would jump at the chance to legally spend all their time stoned. They would still be resorting to stealing to cover the habit.
39 posted on 02/07/2009 8:00:22 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I think legalizing the drugs would do nothing but expand the market.

What has been the result of criminalization?

Has the market gotten smaller?

40 posted on 02/07/2009 8:18:26 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Ol' Dan Tucker
Has the market gotten smaller?

The market IS smaller because people who want to work for a living choose not to use illegal drugs on pain of not being hired or being fired. There is a deterrent built into the criminalization. Remove the deterrent and some of those same people will engage in the practice. Do you want your employees high as kite? Especially on your business property and interacting with your customers? How about driving down the road? Flying an airplane? Welding girders on a new skyscaper? Are you ready to take the hit when that employee screws up massively and YOU get sued for allowing a drug addled employee to work on your watch?

41 posted on 02/07/2009 8:41:37 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
I think legalizing the drugs would do nothing but expand the market.

Prohibition on alcoholic drugs in the 1920s escalated the black market and opened up an entire industry, not to mention the fact that organized crime gangs became extremely wealthy and powerful, which is exactly what is occurring today.

Take pot for instance, if that alone was legalized, it would totally decimate many of the crime organizations in Mexico and elsewhere.

Those that kick down doors for a living, when they they are honest, totally agree, that this entire war on drugs and throwing people in cages just for mere possession will not work, and it's costing the American people ten of billions to continue this "war" that will never end.

On the flip side however, millions in the U.S. now make a lucrative legal living off this modern prohibition...Unfortunately, it's all on the backs of the tax payers

42 posted on 02/07/2009 9:06:48 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Myrddin
Do you want your employees high as kite? Especially on your business property and interacting with your customers? How about driving down the road? Flying an airplane? Welding girders on a new skyscaper?

BTW, there are existing checks and balances in place for that, and if not, they are easily implemented.

43 posted on 02/07/2009 9:12:23 PM PST by dragnet2
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To: Myrddin
The market IS smaller because people who want to work for a living choose not to use illegal drugs on pain of not being hired or being fired.

Many employers use pre-employment drug screening for new hires. That wouldn't change with decriminalization.

Are you ready to take the hit when that employee screws up massively and YOU get sued for allowing a drug addled employee to work on your watch?

That doesn't make any sense.

44 posted on 02/07/2009 9:17:07 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: Myrddin
The market IS smaller because people who want to work for a living choose not to use illegal drugs on pain of not being hired or being fired. There is a deterrent built into the criminalization. Remove the deterrent and some of those same people will engage in the practice. Do you want your employees high as kite? Especially on your business property and interacting with your customers? How about driving down the road? Flying an airplane? Welding girders on a new skyscaper? Are you ready to take the hit when that employee screws up massively and YOU get sued for allowing a drug addled employee to work on your watch?

Strawman argument. Working at any of these industries while intoxicated is already a violation of law and in critical industries the employees are regularly drug-tested.

You have failed to provide any evidence to support your conclusions.

You say the market is smaller. By how much? Can you put a dollar figure on it? A tonnage figure? How much bigger would the market be if drugs were legal?

45 posted on 02/07/2009 9:24:04 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (While the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
It will make sense when someone drives a forklift through a crowd of shoppers while under the influence.
46 posted on 02/07/2009 10:09:12 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
It will make sense when someone drives a forklift through a crowd of shoppers while under the influence.

LOL, is that something you lay awake at night worrying about?

47 posted on 02/07/2009 10:11:29 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (Happiness is a choice!)
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To: classified
If the U.S. legalized drugs like the libertarian party wants how would that affect the drug cartels in Mexico? Anyone care to explain this to me. I presume that it would take the wind out of their sails, right? Drugs would be cheaper too, right?

It would take the money out of dealing with illegal drugs,the same way it took the money out of dealing with illegal alcohol when Prohibition was ended. It is a no brainer if you only give it a little thought!

48 posted on 02/07/2009 10:15:54 PM PST by calex59
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To: coloradan
You have things absolutely backwards! The problem is personal responsiblility and behavior not drug prohibition. Prohibition of narcotics and illicit drugs over many years is a consequence of bad behavior directy associated with said illicit drugs which increase societal crimes and bad behavior. In your form of logic all bad behavior and crime should be decriminalized, e.g murder, rape, etc? I know, I know... it is only hurting the individual partaking in the drugging of themselves, right? You would be horribly wrong!

The problem is personal responsiblility, or lack of period! You think crime is bad now? Legalize illicit drugs, and get ready for crime to increase exponentially! It is a moral and societal issue. Spend some time reading up on 19th century China societie's problems with opium. They dealt with it finally in a severe and effective way to save their culture. We do not need history repeating itself here in this regard.
49 posted on 02/07/2009 11:45:09 PM PST by Torquay
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To: Torquay

People shot up speakeasies during the Prohibition; that behavior has ceased now that alcohol is legal. People can brew their own wine and beer, or buy it at the store, there are no massive profits heading to criminal organizations now even though alcohol is legal (and your arguments were made in opposition to making it so). Furthermore, the Prohibition has created the BATFE, and the Kennedy clan has risen to political power, both of which we are still living with today. Prohibition is a cure worse than the disease, and the same is true with respect to drug prohibition.

Incidentally, your comments about “personal responsibility” ring hollow, if you want to make it a “federal responsibility” instead. Personal responsibility means people are responsible for their behavior, and will suffer if they choose poorly. It doesn’t mean sending in teams of thugs at 3AM, to shoot the family dog (at least) and maybe a whole lot more. That’s State responsibility.


50 posted on 02/08/2009 6:31:05 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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