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Obama's NSC Will Get Sweeping New Powers
Washington Post via MSNBC ^ | February 8, 2009 | Karen DeYoung

Posted on 02/08/2009 4:31:32 AM PST by John W

Result of directive expands security body's role far beyond traditional range

President Obama plans to order a sweeping overhaul of the National Security Council, expanding its membership and increasing its authority to set strategy across a wide spectrum of international and domestic issues.

The result will be a "dramatically different" NSC from that of the Bush administration or any of its predecessors since the forum was established after World War II to advise the president on diplomatic and military matters, according to national security adviser James L. Jones, who described the changes in an interview.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhonsc; jamesjones; jamesljones; nsc

1 posted on 02/08/2009 4:31:33 AM PST by John W
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To: John W
Inquiring minds want to know, and the souls of the dead
from 911 and the USS COLE want to know:
Who will benefit from these "new" powers?

The American public ..... or terrorists.

2 posted on 02/08/2009 4:38:59 AM PST by Diogenesis (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: John W

More cooks oughta make a better stew even if we can’t get them all into the kitchen at the same time.


3 posted on 02/08/2009 4:46:36 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: John W

It is just another place to hide bodies on the payroll. Bet the DUmmies will be overjoyed.


4 posted on 02/08/2009 4:58:12 AM PST by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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To: John W

National Security by committee, like the old Soviet Politburo.


5 posted on 02/08/2009 5:34:37 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Diogenesis

Obama will benefit. This centralizes more control in the WH.


6 posted on 02/08/2009 5:45:54 AM PST by kabar
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

On one hand, you have National Security be Committee.

On the other hand, you have Jones saying this: But he made clear he plans to apply military-like discipline to the NSC.

They are conflicted in what they are planning. You cannot have a committee with the goal of everyone agreeing while applying military-like discipline.

This is a guaranteed fubar.


7 posted on 02/08/2009 5:50:14 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Diogenesis
Heil, Obama!
Who will benefit? The American people, of course. The Dear Leader needs enhanced powers to protect his sheep.


8 posted on 02/08/2009 5:52:18 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

New Politburo, new USSR.


9 posted on 02/08/2009 5:53:03 AM PST by pleikumud
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To: John W
Bookmark for later.
It looks like dissent is out of style again after the last eight years.
Spying domestically, however, is in. It isn't a violation of anyone’s rights when the Democratic Party does it.
10 posted on 02/08/2009 5:54:45 AM PST by IrishCatholic (No local Communist or Socialist Party Chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing!)
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To: John W; kabar

It’s another step towards the US becoming a fascist, totalitarian state.


11 posted on 02/08/2009 5:57:06 AM PST by Canedawg ( I object to taxation without proper representation.)
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To: Canedawg

Thats what I thought after reading the headline and first paragraph. But, after that his actual quotes just descend into gobbledygook and doublespeak.


12 posted on 02/08/2009 6:02:23 AM PST by John W
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To: John W

We’re in the Age of Orwellian doublespeak.

What “they” say is good is really bad.

What “they” say we need to do is really what we DO NOT need to do.

But once power become highly centralized and dissenting voices are silenced, it will be too late.

Arendt’s writings on totalitarian Germany are highly relevant.


13 posted on 02/08/2009 6:06:56 AM PST by Canedawg ( I object to taxation without proper representation.)
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To: John W

President Obama plans to order a sweeping overhaul of the National Security Council the sad is part 90% of obama voters are clueless of the council and could care less.


14 posted on 02/08/2009 6:07:54 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: John W; All

Well the day that we are rue with the “Patriot Act” in law and the “Department of Homeland Security” being created is coming soon...


15 posted on 02/08/2009 6:08:51 AM PST by KevinDavis (No one should question our "Dear Leader"!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This is more Jimmy Carter like micro-management and destined to be another CF.


16 posted on 02/08/2009 6:18:01 AM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats are the party of EVIL whose time of judgment has come.)
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To: Diogenesis

WHo will be the object of scrutiny by these new powers? The American people or the terrorists?


17 posted on 02/08/2009 6:28:40 AM PST by elk ((A Member of the Silent 58)TM)
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To: John W; Diogenesis; Alas Babylon!; American_Centurion; An.American.Expatriate; ASA.Ranger; ...

“Who will benefit from these “new” powers?
The American public ..... or terrorists?”


18 posted on 02/08/2009 6:38:58 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Does Zer0 have any friends, who are not criminals, foriegn/domestic terrorists, or tax evaders?)
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To: Mark was here

Do you suppose this goes hand-in-hand with the “detention camps” being built in the USofA? I do.


19 posted on 02/08/2009 6:41:23 AM PST by winkadink
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To: John W
The new structure, to be outlined in a presidential directive and a detailed implementation document by Jones, will expand the NSC's reach far beyond the range of traditional foreign policy issues and turn it into a much more elastic body, with Cabinet and departmental seats at the table -- historically occupied only by the secretaries of defense and state -- determined on an issue-by-issue basis. Jones said the directive will probably be completed this week...New NSC directorates will deal with such department-spanning 21st-century issues as cybersecurity, energy, climate change, nation-building and infrastructure. Many of the functions of the Homeland Security Council, established as a separate White House entity by President Bush after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, may be subsumed into the expanded NSC...

Wow. Barry's simply making an end-run around our established Constitutional government. First his "czars" that essentially outrank Cabinet members and report to him directly, and now this.

20 posted on 02/08/2009 6:46:46 AM PST by livius
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To: elk

It is just greater centralization of power in the WH. The big losers will be the State Department, DOD, the CIA, etc. The NSC has always played the major role in foreign policy, but this sounds like it will also include domestic policies as well.


21 posted on 02/08/2009 6:50:02 AM PST by kabar
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To: John W
New NSC directorates will deal with such department-spanning 21st-century issues as cybersecurity, energy, climate change, nation-building and infrastructure.

Climate change? You've gotta be kidding.

22 posted on 02/08/2009 6:57:46 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: John W

Karen DeYoung is the worst of the twisted Washpost staff.

This article tells nothing (Jones wouldn’t be fool enough to tell her anything)...

it’s just a transparent vehicle to lie about the Bush administration


23 posted on 02/08/2009 6:59:12 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: IrishCatholic

At first, the domestic surveillance will be done on the neighborhood level. There are already nannies in every neighborhood. If you are already a known target, expect harassment: you don’t attend political House Parties, your lawn isn’t up to code; you use too much water; you own a gas-guzzler; your lights are on too late and are too bright and too numerous. Your children are not properly indoctrinated. Someone heard you playing Rush on the radio outside in your yard. Etc, et al, yadda, yadda. Complaints are filed. People allege hurt feelings due to your actions.

The real surveillance at the NSC level will be reserved for all conservative groups: Christians, Second Amendment,RNC,writers, bloggers, GOP politicians and donors First Amendment.

It will behoove us all to join the Church of the Low Profile and keep political conversations limited to a face-to-face situation with people you trust implicitly.

This is a Maoist administration and power cabal. They are vicious. They do not limit their exercise of power to those outside the group. I expect Blue Dogs and patriotic donks to be the first casualties.


24 posted on 02/08/2009 7:06:48 AM PST by reformedliberal (I want to wake up from this nightmare, now, please.)
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To: reformedliberal

correction:

conservative groups: Christians, Second Amendment activists ,RNC,writers, bloggers, GOP politicians and donors, First Amendment activists.


25 posted on 02/08/2009 7:11:16 AM PST by reformedliberal (I want to wake up from this nightmare, now, please.)
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To: John W

That’s all we need more Liberals at the NSC.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 7:13:56 AM PST by Rappini ("Pro deo et Patria.)
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To: Grampa Dave

This will give lesser cabinet members access to sensitive timely information that will probably be disseminated to the press.....or worse.


27 posted on 02/08/2009 8:01:16 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress! It's the sensible solution to restore Command to the People.)
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To: elk

A domestic role for a National Security Council with all the law enforcement agencies on it? Hmmmm, could that be another step on the path to complete socialism and thought control? It scares the heck out of me. Be Very Afraid!!


28 posted on 02/08/2009 8:35:52 AM PST by Rapscallion (Where is Judge Dread when we need him?)
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To: John W
Where are all the Moonbats decrying this concentration of power into the grasping hands of the Washington security establishment?

Do they no longer fear their calls from overseas might be monitored or their library habits checked?

29 posted on 02/08/2009 8:41:13 AM PST by Gritty (With government, mission creep isn't a bug but the defining feature - Mark Steyn)
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To: Grampa Dave

If Hussein follows Clinton’s example,the major focus of the NSC and the CIA and probably even DIA and NSA will be turned to Christians, Conservatives and Gun owners. foreign targets will be mostly ignored as irrelevant. That all goes or the IRS, too. Remember the conservative think tanks were under pretty much continuous IRS audit for the whole Clinton term.


30 posted on 02/08/2009 8:45:11 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Madame Dufarge

I foresee every department in Obama’s administration being charged with dealing with climate change.


31 posted on 02/08/2009 8:58:34 AM PST by 3catsanadog (I plan to give the new President the same respect and dignity the other side gave Bush.)
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To: John W

What book would you memorize? (ref: Bradbury’s Fahrenheit 451)


32 posted on 02/08/2009 9:05:21 AM PST by P.O.E. ("Arbitrary power is most easily established on the ruins of liberty abused to licentiousness")
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To: Rapscallion

See how fast he’s changing things, slipping things in, and most people don’t even hear about it or have a clue what he’s doing. Eventually his civilian security force will end up here. That’s where those all those new jobs created will come from because they sure as hell aren’t in the Porkulus bill.


33 posted on 02/08/2009 9:57:11 AM PST by mojitojoe (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat)
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To: 3catsanadog
So do I.

The enviroweenies have spent years sinking their talons into America, waiting for this special moment.

34 posted on 02/08/2009 11:13:15 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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To: John W

Just remaking the country in his own image, one dept. at a time.


35 posted on 02/09/2009 10:25:25 AM PST by PsyOp (Put government in charge of tire pressure, and we'll soon have a shortage of air. - PsyOp.)
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