Posted on 02/08/2009 3:10:04 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
Heh, heh. Yah, sorry..
While you will accept assumptions 3-5 without question, I do not. I don't have much faith in scientific conjecture, only in the hard sciences that can be demonstrated in the laboratory. Thus, I will not "interpret" the Bible differently just because it seems popular or pragmatic to do so, if it violates the plain reading of the verses.
Dude, thou assumest too much..
Why would you assume I accept your point 3 - 5?
Take your point #4 & #5. There are new stars being "born" or "created" all the time. Many are dead or are in the process of dying. Stars don't stay in any one spot, but are generally moving through space at high rates of speed.
BTW, there is no evidence that the furthest stars are the oldest.
Another BTW, based on the latest detection technology, it is estimated that there are at least 50,000 bilion billion stars, that is 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 stars. That is more than all the grains of sand on all of the sandy coastline on earth (216,000 miles) using the average width of 55 yards and a depth of 5 yards - with the avg per sand grain diameter of 2/100th of an inch.
Now that's a bold assertion! How long does it take a cloud to condense to into the size of a star and start thermonuclear reaction? They do blow up all of the time, though!
Stars don't stay in any one spot, but are generally moving through space at high rates of speed.
Granted. Just funning on one of the reasons that have been proposed to determine the age of the universe.
A much more scientific sounding assumption is the Hubble Constant, which interestingly enough is the reciprocal age of the universe. So, we estimate the age of the universe based on an emprically derived constant that assumes constant decelleration from a point in time which the constant for the assumption is based on. Or did I miss something.
Awesome about the number of stars, isn't it. If things continue, by 2050 I predict the estimated number of stars will double at least, as we get more powerful telescopes. Even more amazing is this:
"He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name. Great is our Lord and mighty in power; his understanding has no limit. Psalm 147:4-5
Thank you...
“Second, this was before the big creationist movement got really organized and started pushing for legislation, taking over town councils, schoolboard, and filing multiple lawsuits.”
Right, those years after the movement really got started were the second part of Reagan’s revolution, when we took over the congress for the first time in a half century and took over a majority of Governorships, state houses and conquered New york city and Los Angeles Mayors offices.
We even managed the first time in American history that an elected president was impeached. It sounds pretty good to me.
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