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Day fire fell from the sky - 96 killed in Australian inferno
Guardian.co.uk ^ | 9 February 2009 | Jewel Topsfield and Daniella Miletic

Posted on 02/08/2009 5:05:06 PM PST by JoeProBono

Marysville is the town that disappeared. Once known as Melbourne's honeymooning centre, with its pretty guesthouses and century-old oaks, the town, about 60 miles from the Victoria state capital, is now a smouldering, post-apocalyptic wasteland.From the air, nearby St Fillans resembles a row of campfires - piles of powdery ashes with the embers trampled out. The landscape is deserted, with caravans, boats and burned-out cars abandoned in the middle of roads. Many appear to have been trapped by flying debris - huge sections of what were once walls which have blocked the road. A house under construction is untouched by fire, but the savage winds have scattered its beams, like a child's game of pick-up sticks amid the scorched earth and blankets of smoke.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: australian; bushfire; bushfires; jihad; wot

1 posted on 02/08/2009 5:05:06 PM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

You wouldn’t have a link, would ya?


2 posted on 02/08/2009 5:08:41 PM PST by chrisser (The Two Americas: Those that want to be coddled, Those that want to be left the hell alone.)
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To: JoeProBono
Just read on:

www.couriermail.com.au that it's at 108 ... go read the pages ....

3 posted on 02/08/2009 5:09:39 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: JoeProBono

I’ve been reading horror stories about this. I had to stop, it’s too damn sad.


4 posted on 02/08/2009 5:10:47 PM PST by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: chrisser; JoeProBono

Not putting in links must be the new sport.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/feb/09/australia-bush-fires-death-toll


5 posted on 02/08/2009 5:11:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: SkyDancer

6 posted on 02/08/2009 5:12:04 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
So you have one too? Neat ...

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7 posted on 02/08/2009 5:14:15 PM PST by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad, Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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To: PAR35; Admin Moderator

Or is there a glitch in the system?

Writers: Jewel Topsfield and Daniella Miletic
Date on story: Monday 9 February 2009


8 posted on 02/08/2009 5:14:54 PM PST by PAR35
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To: JoeProBono

I was reading about this catastrophe yesterday, really bad stuff.


9 posted on 02/08/2009 5:16:35 PM PST by valkyry1
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To: diamond6

I recall a Discovery channel (or something) show about this type of disaster. They talked about “super firestorms” and how they are pretty much impossible to defend against once they get so big. Of course on the show it had all of some huge city (Sydney, Melbourne??) being destroyed.

Yeah, but wow! You think you try the best to prepare you and your family for things, and then something really big happens like this.


10 posted on 02/08/2009 5:16:46 PM PST by 21twelve
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To: JoeProBono

Just heartbreaking. Prayers for those lost and those who have lost.


11 posted on 02/08/2009 5:20:50 PM PST by ninergold3 ("Has it ever occurred to you that nothing occurs to God?" -Mark Lowry)
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To: 21twelve

This is tragic. They suspect arson. Lots of arson. So I hope that the fire detectives down under will be blessed with sufficient clues to nail the SOBs who started this. These fires are hard to control because they are so hot that they create their own weather. Nasty stuff.


12 posted on 02/08/2009 5:24:11 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: 21twelve

We have eucalyptus trees here in Southern California. Some places they have taken them out and replaced them with less oily trees. Those babies go up like torches in a wildfire. I bet Australia has plenty of them — aren’t they native there??


13 posted on 02/08/2009 5:50:45 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: SisterK

We get those firestorms, too, when there’s a forest fire here in So Cal. They do create their own weather, winds. The flames/ embers leap across freeways in the winds. Very scary. And they suspect arson in this? Isn’t that terrible?


14 posted on 02/08/2009 5:54:25 PM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: JoeProBono

Bush’s fault!


15 posted on 02/08/2009 6:08:45 PM PST by FightThePower! (Fight the powers that be!)
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To: JoeProBono

If anyone comes up with a google earth space shot I’d love to have the link. Thx.


16 posted on 02/08/2009 6:10:51 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: bboop

Yep, they are - most Australian trees are eucalypts. You obviously know what they can do in California - imagine forest where there’s nothing but eucalypts ablaze.


17 posted on 02/08/2009 6:12:54 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: SisterK
They suspect arson. Lots of arson. So I hope that the fire detectives down under will be blessed with sufficient clues to nail the SOBs who started this

Start with the mosques and look for anyone that got burned.

18 posted on 02/08/2009 6:30:46 PM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: PAR35

Australia is on the other side of the International Dateline. It has been Monday in Australia for some time.


19 posted on 02/08/2009 6:34:33 PM PST by MediaMole
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To: Quix

20 posted on 02/08/2009 6:49:20 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

WOW.

Some big yuckarooyas down there!


21 posted on 02/08/2009 6:52:44 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

22 posted on 02/08/2009 6:56:03 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

23 posted on 02/08/2009 6:58:33 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: MediaMole

It is a follow up to the mods. The story was posted without a link. I sent that to the mods via abuse report, and then added this if they wanted to add the authors and date also missing from the original post.


24 posted on 02/08/2009 7:01:35 PM PST by PAR35
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To: bboop; SisterK

I have a friend who lived in Australia at one time and he said that the eucalyptus trees are horrible for fires because the oil is so volatile.

What happens is that the tree burns and when the oil ignites, it turns into a fireball that shoots up into the sky and then lands somewhere else and starts another fire.

The problem is that there’s no way of knowing where the fireball is going to land and if it lands on another eucalyptus tree, it just keeps going like that.

When there were fires, the people just vacated their houses and headed for the coast until it was over.


25 posted on 02/08/2009 7:04:18 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: JoeProBono

Ahhhhh. The State flower.


26 posted on 02/08/2009 7:17:52 PM PST by Quix (LEADRs SAY FRM 1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: SisterK

There are lots of Muslim troublemakers in Down Under.

Sounds like arson jihad, IMHO.

They did the same to Greece a few years ago.

Jihadis threaten to burn down the American northwest.

(Is there a link to a turban silhouette target?)


27 posted on 02/08/2009 7:19:56 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are lubricated with pig grease!")
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To: 21twelve

The Oakland fire was like this. However, the terrain and tiny streets is what really made it bad. Standard urban fire tactics and radio systems were of little use as well.

In AU, hard to fathom how fire can move that fast and hot in open country, but I have heard that it does.


28 posted on 02/08/2009 7:53:20 PM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: elcid1970

I hope it’s not true, but terrorism is a very real possibility:

Islam group urges forest fire jihad
Josh Gordon
September 7, 2008

AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for “forest jihad” by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.

US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to “start forest fires”, claiming “scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels’ forests when they do the same to our lands”.

http://www.theage.com.au/national/islam-group-urges-forest-fire-jihad-20080906-4b53.html


29 posted on 02/08/2009 11:42:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: JoeProBono

Bushfire toll reaches 131:

“...The towns of Kinglake and Marysville have been wiped out as if they had been bombed, and authorities are treating the disaster like a terrorist attack, with more than 330,000 hectares of land affected.

Almost half of Victoria may be declared a crime scene, with arsonists believed responsible for several of the fires. Police said an offender implicated in the fatal fires could be charged with the offence of arson causing death, a crime with a maximum penalty of 25 years in jail...”

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4841343a12.html


30 posted on 02/08/2009 11:48:15 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: JoeProBono
guess there'll be no donations or sympathy from this lot, BUT IT'S GOOD TO KNOW HOW THEY THINK:

"They burned in this life, and will burn in the next. النَّارُ وَعَدَهَا اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا ۖ وَبِئْسَ الْمَصِيرُ

"I got an email asking for blood donations, entitled 'Australia's worst bushfire disaster: Victoria 09 - what can we do?' (kind of reminded me of another email - 'Gaza Massacre - what can you do?', but the latter deserved attention, and the former deserved the trash can). There's no way my blood is going to run in the veins of some kaafir, nor will I be going out of my way to show any sympathy, pity or offering help. These people are muharibeen, and under the threat of Allah'a 'adhab.

"So my attitude is ha ha serve you right, but may Allah spare the Muslim Ummah of a similar affliction." "My husband read other news and told me of something phenomenal , the bushfire which they calculated happened and was heading at an expected direction. Families of firefighters and those involved were told to stay at a certain area which they through their technology predicted very safe. The course of the bushfire changed violently and like a sea of fire rushed through and was coming so fast those families didnt have time to escape. It came so fast it burnt the trunks of trees and the leaves on top were still green. It was as if it was a deliberate act of God. For a nation which seem indifferent about the mass murder of other people around the world, it would seem that one ofa small scale has boomeranged home."

LINK

31 posted on 02/08/2009 11:55:56 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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“...The statement, in Arabic, said that “summer has begun so do not forget the Forest Jihad.”

The writer called on all Muslims in the United States, Europe, Russia and Australia to “start forest fires.”

The posting quoted imprisoned Al Qaida terrorist Abu Musab Al-Suri, as saying “Jihad is an art just like poetry, music, and the fine arts. There are people that draw and there are others that are jihadists. They both act upon inspiration.”...”

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/019591.php


32 posted on 02/09/2009 12:00:36 AM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
It's a tragedy, but in a longer view, it's not. Great info like you posted, along with acts like this may be, will finally snap people of their torpor. The "religion of peace" will once again be seen as what it is.

For all the sneering that the French have gotten on FR, there will be a race between Australia and them to see which has the first and the bigger backlash. Remember, they have a history of finally getting a bellyful and reacting extremely.

Too bad about England. I think it's a lost cause--or at least a follower.

33 posted on 02/09/2009 3:40:48 AM PST by jammer
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you for that link.

This is the first time I’ve read stuff like that.


34 posted on 02/09/2009 5:09:48 AM PST by Mrs. P ("Wonder Woman wears Sarah Palin pajamas." - Blood of Tyrants)
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To: metmom

Ah, yes. We have a small bit of that problem here in So Cal. The eucalyptus trees are so beautiful but deadly in a fire. Some areas have taken them out altogether.


35 posted on 02/09/2009 6:53:11 AM PST by bboop (obama, little o, not a Real God)
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To: Fred Nerks; indcons; little jeremiah; knighthawk; Alouette

Ping to post 29 and 32


36 posted on 02/09/2009 7:15:13 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: SisterK
This is tragic. They suspect arson. Lots of arson

The primary suspect

Islam group urges forest fire jihad

37 posted on 02/09/2009 9:09:39 AM PST by Centurion2000 (01-20-2009 : The end of the PAX AMERICANA.)
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To: metmom

Yikes. I forgot about the eucalyptus trees. They are oily boogers. I just heard that the fire detectives have three good leads. Also, I agree with the earlier post, that Australia is plagued with radical muslims and what a way to spead chaos and destruction and punish the Australians for their work in Iraq and Afghanistan. Religion of Peace. My days of tolerance are quite finished.


38 posted on 02/09/2009 5:05:37 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: elcid1970

Your post that the fires are jihad makes good sense. Destruction, murder, chaos and punishment for Australia’s work in Iraq. Other than jihadwatch, there are probably more sites or links to targets/information. Islam is leaking through our borders just as fast as the illegal Mexicans and illegal Chinese. A couple of months ago, I read about AK47s streaming discharge while dancing in the streets in Phoenix, AZ. Of course with their stupid Dyke Governor now in DC, perhaps Arizona can take their muslim problem more serious.


39 posted on 02/09/2009 5:12:49 PM PST by SisterK (building an underground economy one brick at a time)
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To: SisterK

The jihadis themselves call it “forest jihad”.

Sounds like pure envy IMHO by morally primitive sand people against those who dwell in temperate zones and worship the true G-d.

They’re in our midst and it’s time to make them feel very unwelcome. The Aussies have begun to react in this fashion and the deadly fires are revenge by the jihadi thug bloody savages!

):^(


40 posted on 02/09/2009 5:36:34 PM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My cartridges are lubricated with pig grease!")
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