Skip to comments.Victorian bushfires death toll expected to rise to 230
Posted on 02/08/2009 6:51:39 PM PST by naturalman1975
THE DEATH toll from the nation's worst bushfires is expected to more than double, with the Victorian Government being advised to prepare for 230 fatalities.
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Why all the deaths? I guess I don’t understand why so many are dying.
Lack of communication or an inability to leave?
Most of those killed died on Saturday (it is nearly 2pm Monday, here) The death toll is rising as bodies are found not because people are still dying.
Prayers up for our Aussie frinds.
I’ve been watching your headlines but haven’t really been aware of the timeline of events.
How many towns were hit? Is the fire still going?
At least two towns have been destroyed. Dozens of others have been effected. Bendigo (the third largest city in the state) has been hit, with the loss of about fifty homes, but fortunately only one fatality. Suburbs on the outskirts of Melbourne have also been hit. At least thirty towns are still under threat. There are at least sixteen large fires or fire complexes still burning.
Wow, it seemed to have spread at incredible speed from a few articles I read.
"Responding to speculation that the fires has been deliberately lit, the Prime Minister, who remained in Victoria today, said it would amount to mass murder."
Ping - this is exactly what we feared.
Islam group urges forest fire jihad Josh Gordon September 7, 2008
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for "forest jihad" by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror. snip
full story at
I hope it’s not true, but terrorism is a very real possibility:
Islam group urges forest fire jihad
September 7, 2008
AUSTRALIA has been singled out as a target for “forest jihad” by a group of Islamic extremists urging Muslims to deliberately light bushfires as a weapon of terror.
US intelligence channels earlier this year identified a website calling on Muslims in Australia, the US, Europe and Russia to “start forest fires”, claiming “scholars have justified chopping down and burning the infidels’ forests when they do the same to our lands”.
Isn’t Arson what happened in Greece or Italy last year?
Are you thinking of the “youths” in Greece or the “youths” in and around Paris, France?
Basically, just about the same type of activities — riots and destruction.
NO...there were some huge fires last year (or maybe the year before) ..... in Greece or Italy....and they weren’t tied to any “youth” that I was aware of.
Check the key words goodnesswins.
Start with Athens first as that was 2008; then Paris next.
We in San Diego have very fresh and painful memories of the fires that paralyzed our city and caused 650,000 to evacuate, in October 2007.
My prayers are with are friends in Oz.
Australia is lousy with vile islamists, who have been SPECIFICALLY threatening forest arson during the hot, dry Aussie summer (now).
The fire moved at speeds driven by gale force winds. Air temperature 117 F.
It became impossible to drive down roads where the fire moved faster than the vehicles could travel. Within the settlements, I watched a video where a wall of fire fifty feet high moved across a house and wooded lot in four seconds. That was four seconds between all green and totally engulfed.
Just spoke to a friend in Melbourne, all the time she was on the telephone she couldn’t stop crying. This is a terrible tragedy.
I'm so, so sorry. Prayers for all.
<This is a terrible tragedy.
I spent some time this morning reading on Australian news sites. We aren’t getting half the story over here. There are some horrendous stories coming out of the affected area.
I admit to not knowing about these big fires, but it seems that California gets them quite frequently with no where near the loss of life. What has happened in Australia?
“What has happened...”
Long period of no rain, high temperatures and have a look at the image at #13 and the comment ‘mobile arsonists’ - IMO terrorism is not ruled out.
Have any waterbombers been used?
Yes, they are used a lot. We have a lot of our own and hire additional large waterbombers from the US every summer.
Australians refer to the Erickson S64 Air-Crane helicopter as ‘Elvis’ after a US waterbomber of that name saved dozens of lives over Sydney in 2001.
This year, we have six of those operating over here including Elvis.
Thanks for the info! I wondered if some of those big jet watertankers built lately might have helped. I know we in California were screaming for them last year.