Severin: Porkulus includes medical care rationing based upon person's age

WTKK-FM | 2/9/09 | Severin

[pabianice]

Jay Severin is on now on WTKK-FM, in Boston.

Severin, a "recovering lawyer," claims that part of Porkulus includes rationing medical care by a formula based upon a patient's age. The older the patient, the further back in line a person stands for any treatment. The bill includes a National Healthcare Office and National Healthcare Coordinator (a WHAT?). ACORN's $4.1B remains in the bill. ACORN is the current iteration of the Black Panthers.

[pabianice]

Bummer, man. And three RINOS are making this a reality.

[redhead]

Rush just talked about this on his show. Some SCARY bleep. I’m 66. This is NOT good for me.

[Doogle]

letting seasoned citizens go untreated.....THERE'S your change....and the HOPE now is that the American people don't find out

[chuck_the_tv_out]

ACORN's $4.1B remains in the bill

[Boardwalk]

Pretty soon they will just knock off the old people. They’re too old and sick to vote anyway will be the rationale.

[NonValueAdded]

Well, of course it will come to that ... there’s no other way the gubermint can afford it.

[Islander7]

I’m going to compose an email about this with the heading, “OLD AND SICK? IT IS YOUR DUTY TO DIE”

Gonna send it to everyone I know.

[Blue Turtle]

Can someone confirm this? where in the bill is this?

[Diogenesis]

THERE WILL BE NO RATIONING FOR CONGRESSBASTARDS

All animals are equal, but those with relatives in the US Congress,
are much more equal than others.

[The Great RJ]

Wait until AARP get wind of this.

[TexasBeth]

Mark for later...

[indylindy]

Check out Rush Limbaughs website. he even has the page #’s posted.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

0bama will feel the wrath of the baby boomers just as they begin to retire.

[exbrit]

That’s what’s going on in UK. My step mom had a brain tumor, they kept sending her home “to think about it”, hoping time would run out before her number hit the jackpot for treatment. It’s comming our way so - BOHICA - Bend Over Here It Comes Atcha

[torchthemummy]

Let me tell you, fellow Freeper: we've got your back. I can comfortably assure you that this kind of rationing will not go unnoticed or without protest.

I'm afraid that if this goes into effect there will be a new category added to Free Republic and others: a list of rationing of older Americans/forced death watch.

[BossLady]

FYI

[Brad's Gramma]

And here, on FR....there have been posters saying they can hardly wait for the Boomers to die off...

Well then.

WELL then.

[Zeddicus]

I’m listening to Jay now too. Wow. I believe it completely, but would like to see it sourced.

[beethovenfan]

Soylent Green is coming. (Part of the “green” revolution.)

[pabianice]

http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/2009/01/30/stimulus-bill-would-launch-daschles-health-care-rationing-board/

[Blue Turtle]

I am a 24/7 subscriber, but cannot find a source??

[Renegade]

If they would try this on me, I would just kill them .

[Bahbah]

Your wish is our command.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs

There is a link to the bill’s text in the article.

[Renegade]

Bambi will feel a lot more than wrath !

[Toespi]

AARP is nothing but a liberal voice lying to older people.

[freespirited]

Is this just for the Medicare program? I assume they dont intend to ration medical care under private policies, as that would deny them care in their old age, and we all know that the RAT elite considers itself entitled to whatever it wants for as long as it wants.

[Maceman]

Some SCARY bleep. I’m 66.

Do not be selfish citizen! You have already had your chance to live. You must move aside so that younger citizens, with more energy, can thrive and be strong for the good of society.

You need to stop wasting precious resources that can better be utilized by younger, more able citizens. Onward to the future, comrade!

[Indy Pendance]

I have a feeling there’s going to be a huge underground economy. How many medical professionals will work on the side? How many business will be cash only? It worked for booze, drugs, cigarettes. Why not the rest of the economy?

[ravingnutter]

You are joking, right? AARP supports liberal causes...strict gun control, entitlements for migrant workers, a progressive tax policy....and loves Obummer.

[massgopguy]

Remember what Obama said about only being temporrarily alive. Soon when they say you are retired, you really will be.

[Eva]

I have been trying to tell everyone that this was coming. I think that the assisted suicide bill, that WA state passed, is in preparation for this. They need to reduce the burden on healthcare at both ends of the spectrum, babies and seniors.

This is redistribution of healthcare services to include illegals and poor. I still think that politicians and federal employees, including State Employee International Union will be excluded and covered under the plan that federal employees now have. Obama said this in one of his speeches during the primary. Be afraid, folks, very afraid.

[An Old Man]

Bambi will feel a lot more than wrath !

It's just a matter of time.

[keepitreal]

From the Bloomberg article:

The bill’s health rules will affect “every individual in the United States” (445, 454, 479). Your medical treatments will be tracked electronically by a federal system. Having electronic medical records at your fingertips, easily transferred to a hospital, is beneficial. It will help avoid duplicate tests and errors.

But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.”

The libs screamed about the Patriot Act that it potentially might violate citizens' privacy because the government was listening to terrorists conversations. Yet, they have no privacy objections that the government will be looking at citizens' medical records and advising doctors about whether or not to treat. Your government will know when you've had an exam of your private parts. Nice.

[atomic_dog]

Looks like AARP is about to reap the whirlwind.

[utahagen]

Exactamundo. We already have socialized medicine (medicare and medicaid). If we let the government take responsibility for providing and paying for even more healthcare, healthcare must be rationed. Old people have more ailments and more time to go to the doctor. Plus, old people are more afraid of death than young people, so they monitor themselves and panic every time they have an itch. Before anyone starts yelling at me, my point is that this is why I am not in favor of this stimulus package. What the liberals know but won't admit is that something has to give and, if the lefties get their way and pay for more healthcare for the under-65 set, it's Granny who will be at the back of the line.

[ICU812]

Sounds like Obama has solved the Social Security crisis and the Healthcare crisis in one fell swoop.

Cue an anquished Charlton Heston wearing a handkerchief around his neck. “The Stimulus is people! It’s PEOPLE!”

[Mom MD]

And the freeper physicians among us will feel it our duty to take care of our older freepers.

[Mrs.Z]

***Wait until AARP get wind of this.***

Just which STINKIN PARTY do you think the stinkin AARP supported in the election?!?

[pabianice]

Looks like AARP is about to reap the whirlwind.

LOL! Karma's a bitch, isn't she? Obama got 85% of the AARP vote. Not one word about this on AARP's website.

[Dean Wormer]

AARP will probably do their best to somehow rationalize “The Path to Soylent Green”.

[goodnesswins]

Oh, but Granny Pelosi or Clinton will have great healthcare whenever they want it. Some are more VALUABLE than others.

[neverdem]

thanks, bfl

[Isara]

Have you ever watched the movie or read the book, "Logan's Run"?

From Wikipedia:

Logan's Run is a 1976 science fiction film based on the novel of the same name by William F. Nolan and George Clayton Johnson. It depicts a utopian future society in which population and the consumption of resources are managed and maintained in equilibrium by the simple expediency of killing everyone who reaches the age of thirty, thus avoiding the issue of overpopulation. The story follows the actions of Logan 5, a "Sandman," as he "runs" from society's lethal demand.

[Mom MD]

I feel my retirement and that little quilt shop coming at me sooner than I thought. And just when my 401 K is practically worthless. Thanks oBAMA

[Sgt_Schultze]

Here is the video depicting what the messiah's health plans portends for those too old for scarce health care money.

[Blue Turtle]

Yup...its called selective indignation. This to me, is WAY more dangerous.

[Mom MD]

Most older folks do not run to the doctor all the time. The ones that do I find it is out of lonliness, not fear of death

[19th LA Inf]

Pretty soon they will just knock off the old people. They’re too old and sick to vote anyway will be the rationale.

I'm old, but thank God I'm in pretty good health. I can't think of a better reason to go on living than to see these bastards driven out of government.

[varina davis]

AARP has been in Obama’s pocket from the git-go

[pabianice]

Is this just for the Medicare program? I assume they dont intend to ration medical care under private policies, as that would deny them care in their old age, and we all know that the RAT elite considers itself entitled to whatever it wants for as long as it wants.

Silly Freeper! This applies to ALL medical care, since all hospitals accept government money. Not Congress, of course. They have their own special plan.