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Snowe to McCain: Bipartisan this! [RINO fight]
Politico ^ | 2009-02-09 | Daniel Libit

Posted on 02/09/2009 3:38:48 PM PST by rabscuttle385

Not bipartisan? Try telling that to Sen. Olympia Snowe.

On CBS’s Face the Nation Sunday, Sen. John McCain scoffed at the notion that the support President Barack Obama’s stimulus proposal has received from Snowe, Sen. Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, constituted bipartisanship.

“[T]his agreement is not bipartisan,” McCain told moderator Bob Schieffer. “I've been in bipartisan agreements, many. This is three Republican senators. Every Republican congressman voted against it in the House, plus Democrats. And all but three Republicans stayed together on this. That's not bipartisanship. That's just picking off a couple of senators.”

On Monday, Snowe took issue with that view.

In a statement to Politico, she said the package “represents a compromise that was established through true consensus building. As a member of the Senate Finance Committee, I worked with leadership and the Obama Administration to include key job-igniting provisions in the package, such as small business expensing and a boost in the New Markets Tax Credit.

“I can attest that this was certainly a give-and-take process. Our country is facing the worst economic conditions since World War II and we must not squander this opportunity to develop and enact a stimulus plan that will create jobs and help the displaced.”

By focusing on the work that led to the stimulus deal, Snowe seemed to adopt the process-oriented definition of “bipartisanship” William Safire provides in the latest version of his political dictionary.

“Bipartisanship,” Safire says, is when “politicians set aside differences to work together on political matters.”

But can a bill be called “bipartisan” – regardless of the process by which it came about – if only three members of the opposing party support it?

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


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From left to right: U.S. Sens. Olympia Snowe (RINO-Maine), Susan Collins (RINO-Maine), and Arlen Specter (RINO-Penna.).

1 posted on 02/09/2009 3:38:48 PM PST by rabscuttle385
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2 posted on 02/09/2009 3:39:25 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

These three have made a deal with the devil.


3 posted on 02/09/2009 3:40:06 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: rabscuttle385

Johnny just got out-reached arounded.


4 posted on 02/09/2009 3:40:28 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: beaversmom
These three have made a deal with the devil.

You mean Obama, right?

5 posted on 02/09/2009 3:41:03 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

I haven’t been too kind to McCain lately, but at least he is right on this one.


6 posted on 02/09/2009 3:41:26 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: rabscuttle385

When McCain says it is not bipartisan, it is NOT bipartisan


7 posted on 02/09/2009 3:41:26 PM PST by DBCJR (What would you expect?)
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To: rabscuttle385

worthless b*tch.


8 posted on 02/09/2009 3:41:29 PM PST by bergmeid (Watchin' Obrother self-destruct)
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To: rabscuttle385

Throw them overboard what good are they?

Better to have the complete caucus vote against, than to stick with a few nut-jobs who vote for the crap. Then the Donks own it all.


9 posted on 02/09/2009 3:42:07 PM PST by Tarpon (If you don't stand on principle, you stand for nothing at all.)
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To: beaversmom
I haven’t been too kind to McCain lately, but at least he is right on this one.

He is right for opposing the Obama stimulus.

He is dead wrong for offering up an alternative—a mini-porkulus—that was just as bad.

10 posted on 02/09/2009 3:42:44 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: DBCJR
When McCain says it is not bipartisan, it is NOT bipartisan

Isn't that the truth? Snowe has met her match with McCain. Wish we had seen this McCain during the general election.

11 posted on 02/09/2009 3:43:08 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: rabscuttle385

Where was this McCain during the election?????????


12 posted on 02/09/2009 3:43:52 PM PST by luckystarmom
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To: rabscuttle385

It bears noting that there were more Democrats who opposed it than Republicans who voted for it.


13 posted on 02/09/2009 3:44:33 PM PST by Maceman (If you're not getting a tax cut, you're getting a pay cut.)
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To: luckystarmom
Where was this McCain during the election?????????

Worshiping "The One" at the Temple of Obama.

14 posted on 02/09/2009 3:45:00 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

See I didn’t even know about the McCain mini-porkulus proposal. Thanks. It figures. He never fails to disappoint.


15 posted on 02/09/2009 3:45:36 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

They’re each going to have a special place.


16 posted on 02/09/2009 3:46:03 PM PST by OKSooner
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To: rabscuttle385
stupid RINOs - worst recession since FDRs prolonged depression??? With an IQ of a box of rocks - must have gone to a public school in Maine. Never heard of Jimmie Carter and malaise??

Good grief - all we have now is a clumsy, stupider Jimmie Carter and with hard work, zero can turn a modest recession instead a Jimmie Carter economy.

17 posted on 02/09/2009 3:46:28 PM PST by rigelkentaurus
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To: beaversmom
I haven’t been too kind to McCain lately, but at least he is right on this one.

No, just safely politically positioned... for now. Voting NO doesn't automatically make one right on this issue. Motive should always be a primary concern, especially with McCain.

18 posted on 02/09/2009 3:46:35 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: Tarpon

It is time for the Republican party to become as ruthless as the demoncraps.

Being fair, nice, or wishywashy sure has not helped the country nor has it made the demoncraps any better.


19 posted on 02/09/2009 3:47:16 PM PST by american_ranger (Never ever use DirecTV)
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To: beaversmom
See I didn’t even know about the McCain mini-porkulus proposal.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2179271/posts

20 posted on 02/09/2009 3:47:35 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: rabscuttle385

Snowe and Collins....”The Ditzy Chicks”.


21 posted on 02/09/2009 3:47:43 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience)
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To: PhiKapMom
Wish we had seen this McCain during the general election.

LOL! Wish in one hand...

22 posted on 02/09/2009 3:48:02 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: rabscuttle385

No, it wasn’t “just as bad.” $500 billion does not equal $827 billion.


23 posted on 02/09/2009 3:48:17 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: american_ranger

Yep, but I don’t think Steele can do it.


24 posted on 02/09/2009 3:48:51 PM PST by Tarpon (If you don't stand on principle, you stand for nothing at all.)
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To: TADSLOS

Agreed. He’s like the guy that acts like he’s going to fight because he knows his buddies will hold him back and not let any real fight happen.


25 posted on 02/09/2009 3:49:23 PM PST by karibdes (It's not a perfect world. Screws fall out.)
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To: rabscuttle385
Our country is facing the worst economic conditions since World War II

Now Susan, this can't possibly be true, and you and your fellow liberals know it.

The Bush economy, just a few weeks ago, was "the worst economy since Herbert Hoover".

So what you meant to say was: Our country is facing the worst economic conditions since January 19th, 2009. Right?

26 posted on 02/09/2009 3:50:02 PM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Tarpon

These three stooges need to switch parties and get it over with. That way the GOP is always united against crap like this.

Memo to all RAT senators in Red states—we are coming for you.


27 posted on 02/09/2009 3:50:35 PM PST by lone star annie
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To: Norman Bates
No, it wasn’t “just as bad.”

Yes, it is.

Bush and Paulson opened the door to unfettered Socialism by pulling that bailout stunt in the autumn.

Regardless of the size, either one of the two Socialist porkulus proposals (Obama-Pelosi-Reid, McCain-Graham) would have pushed us through the door and into the glorious paradise flames of Socialist hell.

28 posted on 02/09/2009 3:51:54 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: TADSLOS

Well that’s what I get for giving him the benefit of the doubt.


29 posted on 02/09/2009 3:52:18 PM PST by beaversmom
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To: bergmeid

No. STUPID B*tch.

the worst economy since WWII?
HUH? WWII pulled us our of the depression?

This woman is truly truly dumb and ignorant. I have to give the Dems credit for wooing these two broads!


30 posted on 02/09/2009 3:52:34 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (GROWN -UPS RULE!!!)
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To: lone star annie

It’s the only way to get them inline — Take away their committee assignments. Then make them sit in the back. Then no RNC money or support. Purify.

There needs be a price.

Bush helped Spector, Toomey would have been much better.


31 posted on 02/09/2009 3:53:14 PM PST by Tarpon (If you don't stand on principle, you stand for nothing at all.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Has McCain seen the classless hit Hussein gave today? (I hope MAC explodes!)

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/02/selling-the-sti.html

In answering a question about home foreclosures, Obama also took a not-so-subtle hit at former rival Senator John McCain, R-Ariz., “If you are like most people, including me, and you've got one house,” he said with a smile. “ Now, keep in mind, the house that I'm in, in D.C., I'm just borrowing that. That's the people's house.” Last August, when asked by a reporter how many homes he owned, Sen. McCain could not remember.

32 posted on 02/09/2009 3:54:18 PM PST by roses of sharon (Pray Hussein fails!)
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To: TADSLOS
Last week, McCain's Rat "friends" betrayed him by smacking down his mini-porkulus alternative.

Now, his own RINO "friends" are slapping him around.

I hate to say this but, with regard to McCain...

Justice is served.

Public humiliation at the hands of his Democrat and RINO "friends" serves him right for all of his many betrayals.

33 posted on 02/09/2009 3:54:22 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: beaversmom; TADSLOS
Well that’s what I get for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

Never give McCain the benefit of the doubt.

Never turn your back on him, unless you want to find a knife in it.

34 posted on 02/09/2009 3:55:18 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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To: TADSLOS

At first when he lost I said at least he cannot double cross us as President but who would have thought he would have been leading the charge against this bill. Not me as I figured he would be part of the group working on compromise and happy to admit I was dead wrong! :)


35 posted on 02/09/2009 3:56:09 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: rabscuttle385

Anyone else think it is long past time for Senator SNOWe to melt and go away? Call Algore and order some global warming. In this case it may help.


36 posted on 02/09/2009 3:56:57 PM PST by CaptainAmiigaf ( NY Times: We print the news as it fits our views.)
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To: rabscuttle385
I think that McCain is on the right track with this, it's not bipartisan. More importantly, the American people don't want it! I just signed a petition at www.stopthestim.com.

http://www.letfreedomringusa.com/news/economy/2009-02-09-americas-inflation-stimulus-bill.htm

Maybe too late but I had to try.

I now group Specter, Snowe, and Collins with the demonic, evil, power-grabbing Democrats that they sided with. I can only hope that the party announces they can function with three less Senators just fine.

37 posted on 02/09/2009 3:57:14 PM PST by Kenny
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To: rabscuttle385

This is not a good development.
This kind of infighting will help the democrats.

The Rinos Three take offense because, though they are turncoats, they can’t accept the label so they rationalize their behavior.
They will take comments like this as a challenge to their “honor” and credibility (yes, they probably think they have some)

This will just harden the position of the turncoats and there will be no way to reason with them.
There probably wasn’t much chance of getting their minds changed but this makes it just about zero.

No way to avoid it though - they are what they are.

Wouldn’t it be a treat to know what they were each promised in return for their votes?


38 posted on 02/09/2009 3:57:41 PM PST by Iron Munro (Will Rogers: Every law Congress makes is a joke and every joke they tell becomes a law)
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To: rabscuttle385

So ACORN getting $4 billion or not makes no difference to you?


39 posted on 02/09/2009 3:57:49 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: rabscuttle385
Snowe to McCain: Bipartisan this! [RINO fight]

Sorry, Snowe-flake, but if a bill is too liberal for McCain, any republican who does support it doesn't count. This is a liberal/socialist wish list, nothing more. It's certainly not a "bipartisan solution".

40 posted on 02/09/2009 3:57:59 PM PST by MathDoc (If there ever was a time that Obama looked like an amateur, it’s right now.)
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To: roses of sharon

WOW! ZERO doesn’t even own his own home according to records out of Chicago. ZERO cannot help himself but to make classless comments. They are going to come back to bite big. Dr. Coburn took Obama under his wing when he got to the Senate, but in his speech Saturday you could tell he was disgusted with ZERO and the way he treated the GOP ideas.

Pissing off McCain and Coburn are not smart moves. ZERO is probably the biggest arrogant jerk to occupy the WH which says a lot in such a short time.


41 posted on 02/09/2009 3:59:34 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: rabscuttle385

**Sen. John McCain scoffed at the notion that the support President Barack Obama’s stimulus proposal has received from Snowe, Sen. Susan Collins, Arlen Specter, constituted bipartisanship.**

Way to go, Senator McCain.


42 posted on 02/09/2009 4:00:17 PM PST by Salvation ( †With God all things are possible.†)
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To: karibdes
Agreed. He’s like the guy that acts like he’s going to fight because he knows his buddies will hold him back and not let any real fight happen.

Kinda reminds me of this episode of Southpark:

McCain just had his political ass kicked by a fellow RINO. Yep, there's some conservative toughness right there. /s/

43 posted on 02/09/2009 4:00:21 PM PST by TADSLOS (McCain always has a job as Obama's Butt Boy when he loses his seat in 2010)
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To: rabscuttle385
The Gang of 18, 15 Dems and 3 ‘Pubbies’, tried to make it look like the Gang of 14, 7 Dems and 7 Pubbies from the USSC voting. Not even close on this one. The 3 ‘Pubbies’ are interested is making nice with those who would plummet our country into a debt so massive that we will never recover. All in the name of going along to get along. What useless idiots. No consciences at all. Wonder how they sleep at night.
44 posted on 02/09/2009 4:00:25 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: rabscuttle385

We’ve all heard of The Three Sisters...Now, we have the Three Whores.


45 posted on 02/09/2009 4:01:10 PM PST by DGHoodini (Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand)
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To: rabscuttle385
Tomorrow's headline today:

RINO Cat Fight!


46 posted on 02/09/2009 4:01:39 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Salvation

I agree. However a few around here are barking up the wrong tree.


47 posted on 02/09/2009 4:01:42 PM PST by Norman Bates
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To: Tarpon
It’s the only way to get them inline — Take away their committee assignments. Then make them sit in the back. Then no RNC money or support. Purify. There needs be a price.

The problems with Senators is that they are usually filthy rich even before entering office. If they come in with modest means they're usually filthy rich by the end of their first term.

You can't threaten Arlen Spector. What does he care, he's been in the Senate for how long plus he has questionable health.

Snowe and Collins have been around long enough to move to the French countryside if they get tossed out of office. What do they care?

48 posted on 02/09/2009 4:01:53 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: Tarpon

I am with you — throw them to the RATs — we don’t have the 60 anyway and at least the RATs own all the bills. The arrogance out of the three make me want to hurl.

At least Sen Cornyn is at RNC who has been part of the 20 fighting pork/earmarks for a long time and chances of Specter getting any money from the NRSC are slim to none. If I was Cornyn, I would ask for donations based on the fact that no money would go to any Senator voting for the stimulus. Bet he would bring in a lot of money. Know I would donate.


49 posted on 02/09/2009 4:02:20 PM PST by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER! Sam Bradford Heisman! LetsGetThisRight.com RED STATE Oklahoma Republican)
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To: Norman Bates; Salvation; TADSLOS
However a few around here are barking up the wrong tree.

I'll always bark up McCain's tree. McCain is a bad man.

50 posted on 02/09/2009 4:02:48 PM PST by rabscuttle385 ("If this be treason, then make the most of it!" —Patrick Henry)
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